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Say It Ain't So, Dubya
boblonsberry.com ^ | 1/7/04 | Bob Lonsberrry

Posted on 01/07/2004 6:06:39 AM PST by shortstop

In politics, it’s good to be up for grabs. And it’s miserable to be a sure thing.

As President Bush will prove today. In an expected announcement of sweeping amnesty and Social Security benefits for illegal Mexican aliens, the president will kick conservatives in the teeth in order to woo Latino voters.

It’s clear proof that the adage “Dance with the one what brung ya” doesn’t apply in the GOP.

In the GOP, conservatives exist to donate money and vote a straight ticket, and then be ignored. At least in this Administration and by this Congress. Time after time, the principles of those who put George W. Bush in office have been compromised and rejected. And now, on an issue that could forever alter the nature of the United States, conservatives are being betrayed by their president.

And, you could argue, so is the country.

What are the details? We won’t learn until today. But it is expected that a new “adjusted work status” will be announced for most of the eight million Mexicans currently in this country illegally. Also, lifetime Social Security benefits will be guaranteed illegal Mexican aliens – even after they leave the United States – if they pay Social Security tax for as little as 18 months.

Lawbreakers will be rewarded, and the American taxpayer will become the primary funder of the Mexican retirement system.

And billions of dollars of wages earned by illegal aliens will continue to be sent back to Mexico – bleeding our prosperity and continuing as the second largest cash source for the Mexican economy.

Why is this happening?

Why is the Republican president selling out everything you would think his party stands for?

Because the Latino vote is in play.

Simply put, the large number of Latinos in America have not yet clearly identified with a political party. And the Republicans want them. The Democratic Party owns the black vote lock, stock and barrel and the Republican Party wants to do the same with the Latino vote.

Democrats hope to draw Latino voters by convincing them – as they have African-Americans – that they are an underprivileged minority which needs the Democratic Party to avenge it against the larger American culture.

Republicans hope to draw Latino voters by convincing them – as they have American moderates and conservatives – that they are part of the larger American culture.

Democrats want people identified as minorities; Republicans want people identified as the mainstream.

Apparently President Bush believes that the Republican Party can win the heart of Latinos by rewarding millions of illegal Mexican aliens and by creating a welfare entitlement for people who aren’t even Americans.

Specifically, by caving in to a demand by Mexican President Vicente Fox – the author of the policy President Bush will announce today.

Latinos are powerful because they are up for grabs. Conservatives are powerless because they are a sure thing.

Honestly, if conservatives get ticked off at George W. Bush, what are they going to do? Who are they going to vote for?

Howard Dean? Hillary Clinton?

No way.

After being walked on and ignored, conservatives will dutifully come out this fall to support not just President Bush but the Republican Congress. Why?

Because we want judges and cabinet secretaries and protections for guns and free enterprise and property rights – things we didn’t really get this go round but hope to get in the next.

Conservatives are patsies to the Republican Party, just like blacks are patsies to the Democratic Party. Both get stroked at election time, and both get some very pretty speeches, but when it comes time to make laws and keep promises, both groups are roundly ignored by their parties.

Critics of this policy – as comments from the White House spokesman already indicate – are going to be labeled xenophobes and bigots. There will be syrupy quotes about this being a nation of immigrants and how new people coming to America make it a better nation.

Well, it used to be that way. When our foreign forefathers came to America to be Americans.

But those days have passed. Overwhelmingly, Mexicans come to America to be Mexicans. The melting pot is broken. The language is not learned, the culture is not adopted, the customs and values are not acquired.

And in a couple of generations the Latin Quarter is going to refer to that part of America west of Louisiana and south of Oregon and Idaho. There is a broad-based Latinization of the United States underway, a cultural conquest that the Mexican army could not win but the American government is willing to surrender.

We are growing our own Quebec, and it speaks Spanish. Latino immigrants, and specifically Mexicans, are wonderful people. Yet their success in this country – and the continued integrity of this country – are dependant on obeying the law and acquiring the culture and values of the American Constitution and heritage.

And that is not done by rewarding those whose first act on American soil was an immigration crime.

Instead of granting amnesty and rewarding lawbreakers, we should make a guest-worker program that lets Mexican immigrants walk honorably through the front door instead of illegally through the back door. We have the jobs, they want the work, let us bring order to putting the two together.

And then secure the borders, with troops if need be, so that illegal immigration stops.

Reward those who do right, not those who do wrong. Quicker, more efficient legal immigration is right. Amnesty is wrong.

And this fool idea of opening the empty Social Security coffers to Mexican nationals in Mexico is insane.

But if insanity buys votes, in an election year it becomes law.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; aliens; bush; buyingvotes; camejo; cheney; dubya; edwards; election; gwb; illegalmexicans; invasion; kerry; lonsberry; mexico; nader; pandering; plunderamericans; theft; thenannystate; thewelfarestate; welfarestate
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To: Tacis
The Mexicans are really bright people

As evidenced by the raving sucess and prosperity of Mexico. And the whole of Latin America-South America for that matter.

161 posted on 01/07/2004 8:28:07 AM PST by riri
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To: skeeter
From Post #153... (forgive me, I am not sure how to do all of the fancy formatting)

Contrary to stereotypes, there is no evidence that immigrants come to this country to receive welfare. Indeed, most studies show that immigrants actually use welfare at lower rates than do native-born Americans. For example, a study of welfare recipients in New York City found that only 7.7% of immigrants were receiving welfare compared to 13.3% for the population as a whole. Likewise, a nationwide study by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics found that 12.8% of immigrants were receiving welfare benefits, compared to 13.9% of the general population.
162 posted on 01/07/2004 8:32:18 AM PST by SONbrad
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To: SheLion
I just wont vote for the president period. Or I may write in my own candidate. This is a choice of the lesser of two evils but I believe Bush can not be trusted anymore - and yes I am dissapointed - I had such high hopes for Bush.
163 posted on 01/07/2004 8:34:12 AM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: Dane
Actually he is trying to solve a problem. How are you going to deport 8 million people? One country in modern times did that, nazi germany. I am surmising that is your model.

Cut off ALL benefits to illegal aliens while at the same start cracking down hard on companies that hire illegal aliens, and the illegal aliens will then start "deporting" themselves.

164 posted on 01/07/2004 8:38:19 AM PST by judgeandjury (The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
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To: sasafras
And yuo would do this even if the election were a toss-up where people who think as you could throw the election to Howard Dean? You seriously think that would be better? The Democrats would be laughing all the way to the White House.

Personally I would rather not cut off my nose to spite my face.
165 posted on 01/07/2004 8:38:50 AM PST by SONbrad
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To: SONbrad; sarcasm
Contrary to stereotypes, there is no evidence that immigrants come to this country to receive welfare. Indeed, most studies show that immigrants actually use welfare at lower rates than do native-born Americans...

Sarcasm my man - are to provide some stats? You do it so much better than I...

166 posted on 01/07/2004 8:38:57 AM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: skeeter
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167 posted on 01/07/2004 8:39:21 AM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: SONbrad
We are heading to the abyss. I say take the brakes off and let's just get there and get it over with and let the chips fall where they may.
168 posted on 01/07/2004 8:39:56 AM PST by riri
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To: ravingnutter
Giving illegal aliens these benefits only assures us that they are going to pour into this country at faster rates. You don't reward criminals and I'm sick of politicians ignoring what the people of THIS country want.

BTW.....illegal aliens have murdered US citizens and Mexico refuses to hand these people over. You can't have it both ways. You can't expect to work and live here if you are not going to be held accountable to the laws like everyone else is.

169 posted on 01/07/2004 8:39:58 AM PST by Arpege92
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To: skeeter

170 posted on 01/07/2004 8:42:42 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: shortstop
At least Mexicans work --- there's a bunch of porch setters that collect welfare that won't pick up the trash in their own yards.
171 posted on 01/07/2004 8:44:35 AM PST by sandydipper (Never quit - never surrender!)
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To: sarcasm; SONbrad
Thanks. I don't know where the LP came up with their figures (#153), but they are plainly incorrect.
172 posted on 01/07/2004 8:45:28 AM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: skeeter
Uh..if you read my post, it contained stats. Yours did not.
173 posted on 01/07/2004 8:47:20 AM PST by SONbrad
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To: Happy2BMe
The **Heritage...the Heritage which built America..the Money from Families of Great Britian and Europe.
Yes the Red coats where sent packing....but the Family money stayed..infact Economic and fiscal relationship with England grew after the war of Independence.

The Families accepted the new political reality..and worked quietly in the background...amending law to support their investment path...so too..they gave money..introduced monies into the Gov..State and Civic level to build their fortunes .

In time these Families multiplied outward...Railroads..shipping..Insurance/Re-Insurance..Banking..Weapons etc.
Following the history of economic/fiscal law in America reveals these relationship ties.

The CFR is this machinery's child....there are others.

The foundation is England and Europe...but now surely it is American..with some percentage still finding its way back to the Banking which backed the beginnings of America.

They learned that Power was not just money...lasting power was to influence thinking.

Some have said they can give you a war..and make you back it.
Then turn it off...and make you [believe]think you turned it off

Now they are moving monies out of America...

New peoples to meet....new peoples to influence. : )

174 posted on 01/07/2004 8:48:23 AM PST by Light Speed
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To: skeeter
It would be interested to see the statistics for only immigrants that are working. These are the ones covered by the Presidents plan, correct?
175 posted on 01/07/2004 8:49:12 AM PST by SONbrad
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To: SONbrad
Uh..if you read my post, it contained stats. Yours did not.

My comment was directed to Sarcasm, not you.

176 posted on 01/07/2004 8:50:39 AM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: Light Speed
"They learned that Power was not just money...lasting power was to influence thinking."

Uh bouy.

Here we go again . . the Rockefellers and the Rothchilds.

177 posted on 01/07/2004 8:51:07 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: Dane
Do you make a distinction between "citizens" and "illegal aliens"?
179 posted on 01/07/2004 8:52:39 AM PST by SerpentDove
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To: sarcasm
Using your same source..... You can see that the unemployment rate for foreign born is lower than native born.....

http://www.cis.org/articles/2003/back167.gif

You can take statistics to prove any point you want. Especially from this "think tank" site that openly admits it wants much lower immigration.

180 posted on 01/07/2004 8:54:07 AM PST by SONbrad
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