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Say It Ain't So, Dubya
boblonsberry.com ^ | 1/7/04 | Bob Lonsberrry

Posted on 01/07/2004 6:06:39 AM PST by shortstop

In politics, it’s good to be up for grabs. And it’s miserable to be a sure thing.

As President Bush will prove today. In an expected announcement of sweeping amnesty and Social Security benefits for illegal Mexican aliens, the president will kick conservatives in the teeth in order to woo Latino voters.

It’s clear proof that the adage “Dance with the one what brung ya” doesn’t apply in the GOP.

In the GOP, conservatives exist to donate money and vote a straight ticket, and then be ignored. At least in this Administration and by this Congress. Time after time, the principles of those who put George W. Bush in office have been compromised and rejected. And now, on an issue that could forever alter the nature of the United States, conservatives are being betrayed by their president.

And, you could argue, so is the country.

What are the details? We won’t learn until today. But it is expected that a new “adjusted work status” will be announced for most of the eight million Mexicans currently in this country illegally. Also, lifetime Social Security benefits will be guaranteed illegal Mexican aliens – even after they leave the United States – if they pay Social Security tax for as little as 18 months.

Lawbreakers will be rewarded, and the American taxpayer will become the primary funder of the Mexican retirement system.

And billions of dollars of wages earned by illegal aliens will continue to be sent back to Mexico – bleeding our prosperity and continuing as the second largest cash source for the Mexican economy.

Why is this happening?

Why is the Republican president selling out everything you would think his party stands for?

Because the Latino vote is in play.

Simply put, the large number of Latinos in America have not yet clearly identified with a political party. And the Republicans want them. The Democratic Party owns the black vote lock, stock and barrel and the Republican Party wants to do the same with the Latino vote.

Democrats hope to draw Latino voters by convincing them – as they have African-Americans – that they are an underprivileged minority which needs the Democratic Party to avenge it against the larger American culture.

Republicans hope to draw Latino voters by convincing them – as they have American moderates and conservatives – that they are part of the larger American culture.

Democrats want people identified as minorities; Republicans want people identified as the mainstream.

Apparently President Bush believes that the Republican Party can win the heart of Latinos by rewarding millions of illegal Mexican aliens and by creating a welfare entitlement for people who aren’t even Americans.

Specifically, by caving in to a demand by Mexican President Vicente Fox – the author of the policy President Bush will announce today.

Latinos are powerful because they are up for grabs. Conservatives are powerless because they are a sure thing.

Honestly, if conservatives get ticked off at George W. Bush, what are they going to do? Who are they going to vote for?

Howard Dean? Hillary Clinton?

No way.

After being walked on and ignored, conservatives will dutifully come out this fall to support not just President Bush but the Republican Congress. Why?

Because we want judges and cabinet secretaries and protections for guns and free enterprise and property rights – things we didn’t really get this go round but hope to get in the next.

Conservatives are patsies to the Republican Party, just like blacks are patsies to the Democratic Party. Both get stroked at election time, and both get some very pretty speeches, but when it comes time to make laws and keep promises, both groups are roundly ignored by their parties.

Critics of this policy – as comments from the White House spokesman already indicate – are going to be labeled xenophobes and bigots. There will be syrupy quotes about this being a nation of immigrants and how new people coming to America make it a better nation.

Well, it used to be that way. When our foreign forefathers came to America to be Americans.

But those days have passed. Overwhelmingly, Mexicans come to America to be Mexicans. The melting pot is broken. The language is not learned, the culture is not adopted, the customs and values are not acquired.

And in a couple of generations the Latin Quarter is going to refer to that part of America west of Louisiana and south of Oregon and Idaho. There is a broad-based Latinization of the United States underway, a cultural conquest that the Mexican army could not win but the American government is willing to surrender.

We are growing our own Quebec, and it speaks Spanish. Latino immigrants, and specifically Mexicans, are wonderful people. Yet their success in this country – and the continued integrity of this country – are dependant on obeying the law and acquiring the culture and values of the American Constitution and heritage.

And that is not done by rewarding those whose first act on American soil was an immigration crime.

Instead of granting amnesty and rewarding lawbreakers, we should make a guest-worker program that lets Mexican immigrants walk honorably through the front door instead of illegally through the back door. We have the jobs, they want the work, let us bring order to putting the two together.

And then secure the borders, with troops if need be, so that illegal immigration stops.

Reward those who do right, not those who do wrong. Quicker, more efficient legal immigration is right. Amnesty is wrong.

And this fool idea of opening the empty Social Security coffers to Mexican nationals in Mexico is insane.

But if insanity buys votes, in an election year it becomes law.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; aliens; bush; buyingvotes; camejo; cheney; dubya; edwards; election; gwb; illegalmexicans; invasion; kerry; lonsberry; mexico; nader; pandering; plunderamericans; theft; thenannystate; thewelfarestate; welfarestate
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To: RinaseaofDs
Your logic makes sense to a point. Republicans (conservatives) in the house and Senate are very reluctant about bucking their President on domestic issues. The arm twisting from the Bully Pulpit is enormous and is very effective.

So a liberal agenda gets put into law as well as any conservative agenda. It's a trade-off.

In your scenario, it's quite likely nothing would get done with a Republican controlled Congress and a Liberal in the White House.

It's pick-your-poison. In the end, after watching how this President is advancing the liberal cause albeit more slowly than a full-fledged attack with all Branches of government being controlled by liberals, I really don't see how you could be flamed for your premise.
101 posted on 01/07/2004 7:12:33 AM PST by Prolifeconservative (If there is another terrorist attack, the womb is a very unsafe place to hide.)
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To: Jim Cane
In the 1990's the population growth in Mexico was 2.3% per annum. If there are 10,000,000 illegal aliens in USA then in 50 years there will be 31,890,206 descendants of illegal aliens.

In 100 years there will be 99,412,046.

102 posted on 01/07/2004 7:14:00 AM PST by BRITinUSA
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To: Lady Eileen
Rush needs to provide evidence for this or stop saying it.


Under Bush's plan, the ILLEGALS must provide this evidence.., I dont like Bush's immigration/bbrder policies any better than the next conservative, but take a look at it, I mean, all them illegals spouting off about not being a burden, will have to do just that.
103 posted on 01/07/2004 7:16:49 AM PST by Roughneck (". . .For there is going to come a time when people won't listen to the truth. . .")
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To: sasafras
Conservatives must stand strong and uphold the values that make this country great. Voting for Bush no matter what he does is no different than the blacks voting for democrats eventhough they continue to be ignored. If you want real change then you have to make a stand. Anybody but Bush04

But I sure don't see any DemocRAT running that "I" would vote for! All of them turn my stomach!

104 posted on 01/07/2004 7:17:25 AM PST by SheLion (Curiosity killed the cat BUT satisfaction brought her back!!!)
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To: Dane
What's your solution?

Link

105 posted on 01/07/2004 7:18:25 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: shortstop
When this administration determined that to compete with
the European Union -the US must disolve its' national border
and provide the employment for Mexicans (and any other illegal willing to run North of that imaginary line) When
tom ridge said we need to come to grips with 8-12 million
illegals who have allready come and find a way to Make legal--what is Not legal-- My question is when will we
have a government that functions to provide those things
our Declaration of Independence says governments are instituted to do?Clearly what we have now--does not.
106 posted on 01/07/2004 7:19:10 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: shortstop
Yep and it's increasingly obvious to me that the Republican Party no longer wants my vote or my participation.
107 posted on 01/07/2004 7:21:59 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Those who do not accept peaceful change make a violent bloody revolution inevitable.)
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To: SheLion
I agree - the demoncrats are dispacable no doubt - but if we vote for Bush then we can only expect more of this. My hope is that the congress will continue to become more conservative and this will force positive change in our country.
108 posted on 01/07/2004 7:22:07 AM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: pcx99
A nice thought, and generous, but there is the problem of assimilation. If there are more of "us" then the immigrants become Americans. If there are more of "them" then our children become Mexicans.

Which do you prefer? The values of America or Mexico?
109 posted on 01/07/2004 7:24:38 AM PST by flydye45
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To: sasafras
Think hard before you give your allengance to Bush who is no different than Clinton when it comes to his elitist actions.

The IS a difference. Bush is honest about them.

Both of 'em suck, of course.

110 posted on 01/07/2004 7:25:12 AM PST by jimt
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To: KantianBurke; Dane
Sadly, Dane is right. Reagan's record isn't as spotless as some conservatives believe.

Dane is either ignorant of history, or intentionally failing to mention that Reagan had a hostile Congress. The Republicans control both houses, so what's Bush's excuse for increasing taxfunded social porkery at home and abroad? (and running up the deficit to boot!)

111 posted on 01/07/2004 7:25:25 AM PST by Jim Cane
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To: jocon307
And the social security thing is OUT OF THE QUESTION!

This is what erks me the most out of it all. I believe %8 to %10 of my paycheck goes for the SS tax. This is my money basically being pissed away by current and future recipients of SS. I can't help but wonder that all of the "moderate and compassionate" FReeple regarding this issue are already "getting theirs".

112 posted on 01/07/2004 7:25:26 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
When you have, as we have here in the USA, only two parties, the candidate, in this case President Bush, can do what ever he wants. Because, we conservatives have no one else to vote for without throwing the race to the communist running as demorats.

Precisely. This is why we need a runoff law for national elections before we need anything else. I am all for keeping the electoral college, but the laws need to be changed so that the winner of a presidential election must get a majority of the vote AND a majority in the electoral college. This will allow people to vote their conscience without fear of throwing the election to another candidate that is loathed.

114 posted on 01/07/2004 7:25:52 AM PST by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: Dane
"I just don't see a person cleaning toilets everyday as somebody evil as you want to."

What if one of these ILLEGAL aliens who cleans toilets and comits a murder, only to run for the border to avoid prosecution? It's happened and it's still happening. I've even heard that these same murderer's return to the United States only to comit another crime.
116 posted on 01/07/2004 7:26:26 AM PST by Arpege92
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To: shortstop
"Conservatives are patsies to the Republican Party, just like blacks are patsies to the Democratic Party." That is so true!
117 posted on 01/07/2004 7:26:28 AM PST by WhoCountsTheVotes
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To: KantianBurke
The problem is that "conservative" corporate leaders like the Wall Street Journal totally support illegal immigration, and they support this amnesy policy. After all, it lowers our wages, which is "good".
118 posted on 01/07/2004 7:28:49 AM PST by WhoCountsTheVotes
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
I believe %8 to %10 of my paycheck goes for the SS tax

SS is a ponzi scheme, the more people participating the better off you are. You should advocate that we include anyone in the world who wants to pay in for a lifetime.

It is a rotten financial deal for the participants. The US taxpayer wins on this.

119 posted on 01/07/2004 7:29:27 AM PST by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: flydye45

There are 250 million americans, and around 9 million mexican immigrants (including around 5 million undocumented). I fail to see the problem.

Mexico is a strongly religious (catholic) nation. Abortion is a no-no, they work hard for their money taking jobs most Americans won't, and believe strongly family (and they send back a PAINFUL percentage of their income to support those families this I know first hand), are there any particular problem with these values?

120 posted on 01/07/2004 7:30:30 AM PST by pcx99
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