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Zell Miller: Memo to Terry McAwful
Opinion Journal ^ | 01/05/04 | Zell Miller

Posted on 01/04/2004 9:03:09 PM PST by Pokey78

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:06:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Here are some recent headlines as I see them from the Democratic demolition derby: (1) Sharpton "feels good," could feel better; (2) Kerry cusses; (3) Dean gets "help" from Gore; (4) Democrats ask: "Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the angriest one of all?"


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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 2004; dixie; electionpresident; zellmiller
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To: Pokey78
These folks are called "Value Voters." They go to church to seek salvation, not argue about bike paths.

That statement shows Zell not only is writing about ideology but that he is following the day to day stories involving these candidates. I'd bet not many outside of this board and a the listeners of Medved's radio show know the bike path story.

21 posted on 01/04/2004 10:00:20 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig ("That is the widsom of the past, for all wisdom is not new wisdom")
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To: Southack
Breaux will be a formidable Veep choice...much better than the Florida Graham bet...

Miller probably will be out of consideration..

I heard someone throw out Sam Nunn or John Lewis from Georgia as a potential play...

My bet is still a Dean-Clark or Dean-Gephardt or Clark-Gephardt kind of ticket...

22 posted on 01/04/2004 10:00:59 PM PST by FRgal4u
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To: perfect stranger
or some of the ones with Guliani, or Nader, or Donald Sutherland for that matter

Or even Teve Torbes? :-)

23 posted on 01/04/2004 10:05:18 PM PST by Zack Attack
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To: Pokey78
But Rev. Sharpton could do well because he's even more appealing than Rev. Jackson.

There is one problem with this line of reasoning: Carol Mostly Fraud. She's so unfit for office she's bound to split AL's vote.

24 posted on 01/04/2004 10:06:41 PM PST by Nateman (Socialism first, cancer second.)
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To: Pokey78
I love Sen Zell Miller who has nailed them but good. I have wondered about Rev Al in the South for sometime if blacks decided to come out and vote for him. Wouldn't that be something -- Rev Al a legitimate broker at the RAT convention with a block of votes.

Surprised that the Senate RATs under Hillary Clinton still allow Zell in their Caucus!
25 posted on 01/04/2004 10:10:06 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: Pokey78
What's next? John Kerry wearing a baseball cap sideways?

That's classic. There has to be a FReeper that can create a picture like that.

26 posted on 01/04/2004 10:10:22 PM PST by paul51
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To: Southack
Zell has already stated that he's voting for Bush for President in '04.
27 posted on 01/04/2004 10:14:57 PM PST by Chunga
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To: FRgal4u
Graham and Hollings are both "out" as viable VP candidates because neither of them are capable of even winning re-election to the Senate at this point in their respective state's point in history. Times have changed. People have changed. Some have risen, while others have fallen. Graham and Hollings have fallen.

Nunn, if healthy, might still be a formidable force in Georgia, but not nearly what Miller commands. Miller would actually have a shot at winning that state against Bush in 2004, even with Miller at the bottom of the Pres/VP ticket.

Frightening thought, really...that Democrats would pick someone nationally with whom they strongly disagree with ideologically in order to be competitive in only one or two additional states.

The Dems would also be able to make quite a pitch that they are "centrists" if they add a Breaux or a Miller to their Pres/VP ticket.

What you've got to remember is that 2004 has a minimum barrier. If the Dems can't show that they can take away in 2004 some of the states that Bush won in 2000, then the Dems have utterly no chance.

So if some smart Dem actually manages to hypnotize McAuliffe, Carville, and the Clintons, then the Dems will select for their VP candidate someone who stands the potential to flip 18 or more electoral votes in 2004 from Bush's year 2000 states.

Basically, that barrier means that the whole 2004 race is initially only about the states that Bush won in 2000. If the Dems can't get past that barrier, then the '04 race is O V E R.

And they probably won't be able to sway their power-structure to select someone like Breaux or Miller (or Nunn if he is healthy and still living) in 2004 to be their VP, so it's not like we have much to worry about.

Still, it's best that we be cautious about their collective level of intellect until after they have sealed their fate with some wild-eyed leftist VP candidate at their Boston Convention this year. One never knows; they might get their lucky brainflash at just the wrong time for us...

28 posted on 01/04/2004 10:17:26 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Chunga
"Zell has already stated that he's voting for Bush for President in '04."

Zell's a great all-around guy (for a Democrat), but he *earned* his nickname of "Zig Zag Zell" by saying one thing and doing quite the other.

But heck, what do I know. I haven't seen him face to face since Coverdale's funeral in Atlanta some years back. Perhaps he's changed in his old age.

29 posted on 01/04/2004 10:20:44 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Zack Attack; infoguy
Forbes was funny. I'd like to see a few of A. Whitney Brown's pieces again. How about when Edwin Newman was around?

FTR I was watching Comedy Central's Roast of Chevy Chase and Al Franken was one of the roasters. And he chose to talk about Chevy's addiction to "back pills", he mentions these "back pills" and "addiction" few times during his speech, and if I remember correctly the roast was taped a few months before Rush admitted his problem.

30 posted on 01/04/2004 10:21:08 PM PST by perfect stranger (No tag line text found. ERROR 7c240000-10e36. This application will be terminated.)
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To: Southack
He appears to have changed considerably. He states that he's changed his position on abortion to pro-life in his most recent book.
31 posted on 01/04/2004 10:23:48 PM PST by Chunga
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To: Southack
And, I forgot to add, the chances of a declared pro-life Democrat appearing on the Democratic ticket in November are beyond remote.
32 posted on 01/04/2004 10:33:15 PM PST by Chunga
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To: Southack
BTT
33 posted on 01/04/2004 10:33:22 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Pokey78
read later
34 posted on 01/04/2004 10:34:09 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Pokey78
You know, politics would be sane if all dems were like Zell.
35 posted on 01/04/2004 10:34:26 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Pokey78
Terry McAwful and the Democrats are hoping more anger will do for them what they couldn't do in 2002 and 2003: rack up more victories for their party.
36 posted on 01/04/2004 10:44:50 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MNLDS
>>Can anyone enlighten me re: Harkin's potty mouth? I don't remember that one.

Has something to to with bovine scat...back when ol' Tom was running for Prez, he used what was then called the "barnyard epithet" - I don't remember the exact details of why he used it - but I do remember the press went ape over it.
37 posted on 01/04/2004 10:55:15 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (The only good news for Democrats is they could save $$ by switching to Geico.)
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To: Pokey78
This just keeps getting better and better.
38 posted on 01/04/2004 10:59:46 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: Pokey78
Mr. Miller, a Democratic senator from Georgia, is the author of "A National Party No More," just published by Smyth & Helwys.

Zell's book is already in the top 10 nonfiction of the NY Times bestsellers list.

39 posted on 01/04/2004 11:20:21 PM PST by Susannah (AMERICA is the best! - Could hundreds of millions of immigrants be wrong?)
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To: Pokey78
BUMP
40 posted on 01/04/2004 11:30:13 PM PST by GrandMoM (The attitude of faith will cause you to live one day at a time, enjoying each one. 2 Cor.5:7)
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