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Ground Zero: If They Build, They Won't Come (Wonder Land)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Friday, December 26, 2003 | DANIEL HENNINGER

Posted on 12/26/2003 7:33:03 AM PST by presidio9

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:50:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Looking out my office window in lower Manhattan, across the 16 acres that have become an excavation site, I can see a steel mesh fence on the far side, and from one end to the other people are standing at the fence, looking into the September 11 space. This is Christmas week, and you could say these are just holiday tourists who've come to gawk at "Ground Zero." But these people are always at the fence, and have been at all hours for more than two years, looking in.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: freedomtower; henninger; portauthority; wonderland; wtc
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1 posted on 12/26/2003 7:33:04 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Hell, we can go all the way immediately and just build a mosque there.
2 posted on 12/26/2003 7:36:48 AM PST by thoughtomator ("I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid"-Qadafi)
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To: thoughtomator
First time I ever disagreed with Henninger.
3 posted on 12/26/2003 7:38:47 AM PST by presidio9 ("By extending the reach of trade, we foster prosperity and the habits of liberty." -Adam Smith)
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To: presidio9
If it is built it is the biggest example of human folly in recent times.

What company will insure it? At what cost? Perhaps Lloyds of London, at $5000 per square foot.

What company will lease space in it? Imagine their advertising campaign: "Come and work in the NEW IMPROVED--MUCH SAFER World Trade Center!"

What (sane) individual would apply to work on, say, the 100th floor?

Will there be a gigantic sign, reading "KICK ME", in huge letters on one side of the building?

Will there be anti-aircraft emplacements tastefully disguised by shrubbery?

Make no mistake: the time for rebuilding the WTC is after all the terrorists and their supporters are dead. It will be taken as a challenge, and the challenge will be accepted. Next time they'll use a nuclear satchel charge in the back of a taxicab.

Possibly circa 2020, if we ever get serious. At this time, this is no longer prime commercial real-estate.

Roll that tape again, please.

--Boris

4 posted on 12/26/2003 7:42:16 AM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: presidio9
New York City should remain a commercial center. Keeping the site barren would just hasten the gradual movement to turn it into a massive theme park. Better to return the entire site to productivity, leaving the site barren won't bring those poor souls back.
5 posted on 12/26/2003 7:44:13 AM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: boris
What (sane) individual would apply to work on, say, the 100th floor?

Plenty. I used to work there. I'd work there again.

6 posted on 12/26/2003 7:47:00 AM PST by presidio9 ("By extending the reach of trade, we foster prosperity and the habits of liberty." -Adam Smith)
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To: thoughtomator
Hell, we can go all the way immediately and just build a mosque there.

I'm surprised they haven't already erected a shrine to the religion of peace on that site.

7 posted on 12/26/2003 7:52:29 AM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: presidio9
Let me say it again, very slowly:

Next time they'll use a nuclear satchel charge in the back of a taxicab.

--Boris

8 posted on 12/26/2003 7:53:35 AM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: presidio9
I'm a Floridian visiting my home town on Long Island for the holiday's (I'm there now). I was at Ground Zero two days ago, for the first time ever. And although it looks more like a construction area now, The fact that those two towers are no longer there is an awesome experience. It is a solemn place. I was able to get some closure from the visit.

I want to see something re-built there. I believe that although we have men in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for us, we still need to send the message to those maniacs that they cannot do this to us. That we are resilient. I also think Heninger has a valid point. One tall tower with space around it would be sufficient to convey this while restoring some of the lost office space. Other smaller buildings would serve to clutter the area.

9 posted on 12/26/2003 7:53:57 AM PST by peteram
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To: peteram
I think we should bring back Radio Row.

Serously, it was an attack on a commercial center, for that very reason. The WTC was never very pretty or inspiring, and New Yorkers didn't really take to it very much. Why not just let commerce take over and do what it does?

10 posted on 12/26/2003 7:57:25 AM PST by MoralSense
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To: boris
Let me say it again, very slowly:

Next time they'll use a nuclear satchel charge in the back of a taxicab.

That's a risk I'm willing to take. I work in Rockafeller Plaza now, very likely the #1 target in the city.

11 posted on 12/26/2003 8:00:06 AM PST by presidio9 ("By extending the reach of trade, we foster prosperity and the habits of liberty." -Adam Smith)
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The WTC was never very pretty or inspiring, and New Yorkers didn't really take to it very much.

That is a myth that I heard occasionally before the attack and much more frequently afterwards.

True, there was some initial criticism of the revolutionary design in the 1970's, but by 2000, everybody I know loved the towers.

12 posted on 12/26/2003 8:02:32 AM PST by presidio9 ("By extending the reach of trade, we foster prosperity and the habits of liberty." -Adam Smith)
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To: peteram
There should be life there. Plants, trees, flowers and a
large fountain or two. Maybe a tall monument, but no more
ridiculously tall skyscrapers. A human scale complex of
some sort with life in it.
13 posted on 12/26/2003 8:07:50 AM PST by Twinkie
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To: boris
Hi Boris. Welcome to your new company.

To satisfy Insurance requirements, Millie here will show you how to deploy your parachute. It is statistically unlikely you will need it. - Tom

14 posted on 12/26/2003 8:10:38 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb republicans. - Capt. Tom)
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To: presidio9
From the article:
This site in downtown Manhattan is what it is: the remains of an attack on the American land mass and the murder of several thousand innocent civilians. It should be remembered for what happened that day -- a violation, a bloody trespass. But it won't be if the site is choked with buildings and a memorial off in a corner. The crowdedness of this plan's buildings, stores and people means this will be a denser urban space than even Times Square. New York's foot traffic is a rough force, which in time will erode and erase September 11.

I realize that my sentiments run counter to those of most Freepers, but I, too, feel the open space should remain "open", having come to my conclusions shortly after the September 11 attacks.

I believe the best use -- indeed the only use -- for the sixteen acres where so many died, is for the Congress to declare it a national monument and burial ground: an Arlington of the North.

It should become the memorial for the civilians who perished there, and a hallowed resting place for the remains of those who have given their lives, and will continue to give their lives, in the ongoing war with Islam. A war which is far, FAR from over. We will not understand the true need and meaning of such a monument until the war actually _is_ over.

The New York Daily News (which is actually a liberal paper) ran an editorial a few weeks' back. In it, they argued that the several proposed "monuments" for the Twin Tower footprints were so bland as to have no connection to the attack, no historical perspective for future generations. The editorial included a photo of the famous "standing remains" of the North Tower -- remains which have been preserved, and which could be re-constructed at the site.

This is dead-on. One hundred years from now, ANYone will be able to visit lower Manhattan, gaze upon the shattered beams of the North Tower and understand EXACTLY what happened there, and the implications for all of us.

If there is a problem with "lost real estate", I'm certain that someplace, somewhere on Manhattan there are sixteen _more_ acres that could be used to replace that office space.

But if the hallowed "space" that currently exists is covered over with anything, its true relevance will be "covered over", as well. The country -- and those who died there -- deserve better than that. And so does history.

Again, just my thoughts, and I realize you have a right to yours.

- John

15 posted on 12/26/2003 8:22:54 AM PST by Fishrrman
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To: presidio9
Historical memory matters

Sure does,and we don't need a physical presence to have memory.

Build.

16 posted on 12/26/2003 8:26:24 AM PST by RJCogburn ("Everything happens to me. Now I'm shot by a child."...Tom Chaney after being shot by Mattie Ross)
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Oh, they'll come for awhile, out of curiosity. But 20 years from now? 15? I don't think so. The Civil War has hallowed ground, as at Gettysburg. World War II has Pearl Harbor and the Arizona memorial. September 11 will have . . . an office complex and a shopping mall.

They'll always come.  Wave after wave after wave of commuters.  Will they all stop at the memorial, no.  Will they think about it yes.  Put the memorial in their path and make them walk around it (Yes, I'm one of the Jersey people that commuted through the WTC on the PATH so I know about the crowds and their traffic patterns.)  The southeast corner of the original WTC site had the preponderance of commuter foot traffic in and out of the complex.  The only change I would make to the current plan is to place the memorial in that corner rather than the southwest corner.  I would even go so far as to have four separate memorials in each of the four corners.

The Civil War was fought on farms and fields.  A field is an appropriate memorial.  Pearl Harbor was a Navy installation and still is.  The World Trade Center was an office complex and shopping mall.  And that's what it should be again.

The crowdedness of this plan's buildings, stores and people means this will be a denser urban space than even Times Square.

Is this something new?  Walk around the rest of downtown and you'll see dense urban space.  The original format of the WTC towers provided lots of open space.  What I can tell of the new plan does the same.  Dense urban space is very relative in Manhattan and the author knows that.

New York's foot traffic is a rough force, which in time will erode and erase September 11... ...There is little talk of September 11 in New York City, an irrepressibly partisan place. The act of remembrance is now done by the visitors at the fence, looking in.

It is true that there is little talk of 9/11 in NYC these days.  I don' t know if it just because it's hard for people to talk about or if they really have forgotten.  I tend to believe more the former though the latter is there.  I know when I have a customer meeting scheduled around the site, I get angry, and I don't like being there.

The low reason for building the current plan is that the site is owned by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, and the Port Authority, the landlord-owner of the real estate, wants its rent flow back (some $120 million annually).

Why is this so low?  Commerce is why NYC was attacked in the first place.

Remembrance in our time has become difficult. We are becoming a culture of short-term memory, with mass media creating inexhaustibly new experiences for us to have, discard and forget. The practice of deep memory, much less common memory, is becoming harder to maintain.

Totally agree.  However, I don't think keeping the walls of the bathtub exposed would really change that.

17 posted on 12/26/2003 8:26:40 AM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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They'll always come. Wave after wave after wave of commuters. Will they all stop at the memorial, no. Will they think about it yes.

This is true. When I worked down there, I used to walk by Alexander Hamilton's grave, every morning. It is two blocks away, in the courtyard of Trinity Church. I never saw anyone even pause to look at the gravesite except myself. NYers move on.

18 posted on 12/26/2003 8:31:02 AM PST by presidio9 ("By extending the reach of trade, we foster prosperity and the habits of liberty." -Adam Smith)
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Oh, they'll come for awhile, out of curiosity. But 20 years from now? 15? I don't think so. The Civil War has hallowed ground, as at Gettysburg. World War II has Pearl Harbor and the Arizona memorial. September 11 will have . . . an office complex and a shopping mall.

Totally in keeping with the shallow society involved in commemorating the event. Gettysburg is space set-aside for remembrance, as is the site of the Arizona. You canNOT have a memorial 'integrated' with a workspace. The day-to-day workspace will easily overwhelm the memorial.

My idea was several locations in the area: closed structures containing full-sphere panoramic images from those locations of before and after - to help instill the sense of destruction and devastation, and insult ,to the Country.

19 posted on 12/26/2003 8:40:01 AM PST by solitas (sleep well, gentle reader; but remember there ARE such things...)
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They should rebuilod the towers exactly like they were, maybe even hire. That would show them. They will not and that a pity.
20 posted on 12/26/2003 8:44:06 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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