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THE PERSECUTION OF RUSH
The Logical View ^ | 12/26/03 | MARK A SITY

Posted on 12/26/2003 4:21:34 AM PST by logic101.net

THE PERSECUTION OF RUSH GOES ON MARK A SITY 12/26/03

Years ago, Brett Favre had a problem with pain killers. He was buying them illegally after a prescription ran out for after an injury that still hurt. He became addicted. After the news came out, he apologized to his fans, went into treatment, and all was right with the world. Not a soul seems to be interested in investigating Ozzy Osbourne’s drug use, but there might be a reason for this. Ozzy seems to be attempting to prove the theory of evolution by devolving into lower forms of life before our eyes. Ozzie is an interesting scientific experiment.

Yet, Rush Limbaugh is reported to have a problem with an addiction to pain killers, admits it and goes into treatment, and all is still not right with the world. Rumors are reported first that he’s part of a drug ring investigation. Ok, it seems this is true in that his name turned up as a customer. Then rumors were reported that he was buying these prescription pain killers in 1000+ lots. Then rumors were reported that he was involved in selling the drugs (like he really needs the money!). Then it was money laundering. Now he is under investigation for the very serious crime of “DOCTOR SHOPPING”. It seems this is a huge crime in Florida.

This makes me wonder. If I take my family to Florida for a vacation, and our daughter hurts herself, let’s say she hurts her leg. Being from Wisconsin we wouldn’t know who the good FL doctors are and who the quacks are. We’d probably take her to the closest doctor. So let’s say we get Dr Quack. Dr Quack takes her into the X-ray room, and comes out with an X ray showing a hairline fracture in her calf bone. We would assume a leg cast is in order. Dr Quack comes back with not the plaster cart, but a laughing gas cart and then pulls out a big meat saw. Dr Quack tells us he will have to amputate her leg for the hairline fracture. If we decide to take her out of the office (with both legs attached) and look for a second opinion are we in violation of FL law for “DOCTOR SHOPPING”?

I don’t claim to have any inside information on Rush’s situation, but drawing on what he has said, it seems that he had a painful back problem and went to Dr Quack. Dr Quack recommended surgery. Dr Quack messed up the surgery. Dr Quack prescribed a pain killer to Rush for temporary relief of a long term problem. Dr Quack’s prescription ran out on Rush, leaving him in debilitating pain. Rush knew the pain killer could allow him mobility, and Dr Quack offered no option other than permanent debilitating pain for the rest of his natural life. It seems to me that Rush should have been “doctor shopping” a long time ago!

Why is Rush on trial here, without even any charges being filed? Shouldn’t Dr Quack be the one being investigated for leading an innocent victim down the path of lawlessness and drug use? Where is the AMA? Could it be that they, along with the press have an anti-Rush agenda? Nah, couldn’t be. If I believed that I’d be one of the black helicopter conspiracy types then, wouldn’t I?

MARK A SITY

http://www.logic101.net/


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Florida; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: drugs; enablers; evolution; freetedmaher; junkie; limbaugh; loadofbull; lovablefuzzball; nologic; ozzy; paranoia; persecution; rush; supportdope
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To: gitmo
"And the goal of the prosecution is to let everyone know everything about the case and then some."

Please - tell me where "everything about the case and then some" is ... I can't seem to find the medical records, the actual search warrents, the Clines audio tapes and written statements, Rush's bank withdrawal records, ANY of the FBI notes on this case, etc

Enquiring Minds want to know !
301 posted on 12/26/2003 11:09:20 AM PST by RS
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To: antiRepublicrat
All the money in the world wouldn't be enough once his private medical records are disseminated to the public. Do you have any respect for medical privacy?
302 posted on 12/26/2003 11:10:02 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Will work for W)
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To: JackRyanCIA
Did you not read my other post where I recanted and admitted fault with that statement? I cannot help it if you are Rush Sheeple. See there is a VAST difference between Rush and I. I am man enought to admit a mistake or an error. I cannot make the same claim for Rush. Please do yourself a service and read before you post.
303 posted on 12/26/2003 11:10:18 AM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: Catholicguy
"Rush likely caused his own deafness and still hadn't reached bottom. Were it not for the cops and this prosecutor, Rush might be dead."

You must have reached nirvana to imply Rush has not hit bottom. No one, I repeat "NO ONE" can tell if some one else has hit bottom in regards to drug addiction. The motivating factor of hitting bottom is the pain to continue is greater than the pain of doing something about it. Rush has admitted his problem and has taken steps to recover. His pain threshold certainly included losing his hearing.

Has he hit bottom?, only God knows, and anyone else who claims otherwise is just a fool.


304 posted on 12/26/2003 11:11:25 AM PST by Psycho_Runner (Saddam says "oh Shiite" right before capture.)
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To: Trust but Verify
"They apparently got a search warrant for the records by misrepresenting the evidence. "

Nope - even after Black's statements, the Judge ruled the warrent was allowed to stand.

Have you read the search warrent Application ? Where do you feel it was misrepresented ? I'm assuming you are not a Judge, but your specific comments might prove interesting.
305 posted on 12/26/2003 11:12:23 AM PST by RS
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To: SierraWasp
I agree the man is VERY articulate in his opinions and very WELL informed. As a radio host I appluad him on bringing up an opposing point of view for others to follow. I just cannot get it past me that this man will not take in more responsibility for his actions instead of playing the blame game.

Good response though I agree with you.
306 posted on 12/26/2003 11:13:21 AM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: RS
So you're saying he shouldn't put up any defense? He shouldn't do everything possible to make sure his records are not leaked to the public?

At what point should his cooperation end? It should be clear to anyone by now that the prosecution is leaking like a sieve and they cannot be trusted to keep the info in his private medical files private.

It seems abundantly clear to me at this point that the prosecution has tried several other avenues and has come up with the very heinous crime of doctor shopping. Even then, their case seems quite weak. But, hey, if you can damage him and never have to bring a charge in court, so much the better. I suppose you see nothing at all wrong with that.

307 posted on 12/26/2003 11:20:18 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Will work for W)
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To: Trust but Verify
LOL I said why. The NE is heavily vetted by lawyers and more reliable than the NY Times. One way to judge the truth of the article is to watch and see Rush - than whom fewer have deeper pockets - avoid the libel/slander lawsuit against the NE the way he is avoiding confronting the truth about his addiction.

I find it both predictable and sad that so many putative conservatives would mount a liberal defense of a conservative. You folks are doing Rush no favors. Your defense tends to buttress the veracity of the observation Rush truly didn't believe what he was saying.

If Rush was speaking about a liberal doing what he did, he would savage him daily and produce hilarious comedy skits/songs ect. THat he is not subject to the same treatment tends to make one see his defenders as liitle different than the defenders of Bill Clinton's perversions.

Rush, repeatedly, says his "talent is on loan from God." So is his body. Holy Writ says , !st Corinth:6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

So, Mr. Conervative pollutes his body like a dope fiend and the entire mess is blamed on liberals?

309 posted on 12/26/2003 11:21:21 AM PST by Catholicguy (Come on)
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To: RS
The prosecution did not reveal that the doctors Rush allegedly 'shopped' were in the same practice!
310 posted on 12/26/2003 11:22:44 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Will work for W)
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To: Trust but Verify
Do you have any respect for medical privacy?

Yes, but I also know that prosecutors have every right to see medical records if they relate to a criminal investigation. If they have confidentiality problems, maybe the judge could set up a special master to oversee release of only relevant material, or put them under seal and find the prosecutors in contempt if released. But the prosecutors do have a right to the records pursuant to an investigation, and Rush is trying to interfere with that investigation.

311 posted on 12/26/2003 11:24:48 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Trust but Verify
"It should be clear to anyone by now that the prosecution is leaking like a sieve " Please See post 301

"At what point should his cooperation end? "
At what point did his cooperation start ?

"It seems abundantly clear to me at this point that the prosecution has tried several other avenues "

... and do you seriously think those avenues have been abandoned ?



312 posted on 12/26/2003 11:24:51 AM PST by RS
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To: Catholicguy
Being more reliable than the NY Times is not that hard. How many times has the NE been sued, and how many millions have they paid out in settlements? I will reiterate: My belief is that the prosecution will not actually charge him with anything, they are just going to leak everything out to the press and let them do the dirty work.
313 posted on 12/26/2003 11:25:13 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Will work for W)
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To: RS
That's because there is no there there. Money laundering? Your own money? How does one launder their own money? Rush certainly wasn't selling drugs. That being the case, why would he be laundering money?
314 posted on 12/26/2003 11:27:02 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Will work for W)
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To: JackRyanCIA
"What is he accused of? Doctor shopping? What is the penalty for that?

A maid said some things. People say all sorts of things that ain't true.

He hasn't been charged with anything has he?"

The simple fact that he stated he was addicted to pain killers is in itself his problem. How else did he get these drugs? He sure didn't get them legally. He has been charged in the court of public opinion at the very least.
315 posted on 12/26/2003 11:27:57 AM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: RS
What level of participation in his own prosecution would you approve of?
316 posted on 12/26/2003 11:28:43 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Will work for W)
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To: DaGman
I sincerely hope that you are not an M.D. The reason I say this is I suspect that if you are you will find what I have to say in response to certain aspects of your post, deeply offensive. Anyway here goes.

"I read a lot here about moral relativism. To me, what's right is right, what's wrong is wrong. Rush didn't need thousands of pills, nor did he need to doctor shop."

I don't think there is any moral issue here. Nor is there right or wrong in what Rush did. To paraphrase Dr. Walter Williams, there are just laws and unjust laws. An unjust law is one that allows the government to do something that it would prosecute us for doing. For example, the Government can take your money and buy some pain killers and give them to me. I, on the other hand, would go to jail if I took your money and bought myself some pain killers.

It is my belief that requiring a prescription from an M.D. for an effective pain killer, while there is a plethora of less effective pain killers available "over-the-counter" (note the negative connotation of "over-the-counter") is racketeering, as in RICO, the racketeers are the Government, the AMA and the Pharmaceutical manufacturers. I can legally kill myself slowly with alcohol and/or acetaminophen. I can buy alcohol by the barrel and Tylenol by the case if I cared to, legally.

Has it been established as fact that Rush bought thousands of pills? If so, over what period of time? Don't pills come in different dosages? I take a medication daily that comes in micrograms and the pills or available from 25 micrograms to 300 micrograms, so 1000 of the 25s would be equivalent to 83 of the 300s, 1000s even if true may be misleading.

Finally, how did you come to the conclusion that Rush didn't need to Dr. shop? Do you have a more effective method?

"Clandestinely meeting someone in a parking lot to buy thousands of pills is not the act of someone trying to relieve their pain because the doctors have failed to do so. These are the actions of an addict."

I think there are millions of men meeting clandestinely with their M.D.s to purchase Viagra...may not be in a parking lot, it's just a matter of privacy.

Is there some law against addiction? I've never heard of one. I suspect there are some here who are "addicted" to FreeRepublic, should they stand up and take their medicine like men or...be prosecuted?

"Rush should stand up, take his medicine like a man and move on."

Are you being a punster here? Rush did indeed take his medicine like a man. Now he is taking his "medicine" like a man.

317 posted on 12/26/2003 11:30:49 AM PST by Positive
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To: Catholicguy
"Have you ever heard of a drug fiend admitting his addiction and taking personal responsibility for it prior to his reaching bottom?"

And yet again IMO he only admitted it because he felt the heat around the corner. If he was not getting this heat this man would still be Narcoing it up.
318 posted on 12/26/2003 11:31:11 AM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: Fzob
Rush is a big boy and needs to take repsonsiblity for his actions

He's already done that. How could you miss that? Were you living in an underground room in Tikrit recently?

319 posted on 12/26/2003 11:31:20 AM PST by JoeSchem
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