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Revisions show economy pre-shrank pre-recession
Reuters ^ | December 10, 2003 | Andrea Hopkins

Posted on 12/10/2003 7:20:05 AM PST by lchoro

Revisions: Economy Shrank Pre-Recession Wednesday December 10, 8:38 am ET By Andrea Hopkins

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. economy shrank in the third quarter of 2000, the government said on Wednesday in revisions to official figures that showed America was on the brink of recession months earlier than previously thought.

The sweeping changes by the Commerce Department also downgraded the expansion that followed the 2001 slump, albeit only slightly.

However, the revisions were not applied to third-quarter 2003 data -- leaving the most recent measure of growth unchanged at a swift annual clip of 8.2 percent. The next reading of third-quarter growth is scheduled for later in December.

Until now, statisticians at Commerce's Bureau of Economic Analysis believed the economy did not start shrinking until early 2001. But extensive revisions dating back to 1929, incorporating both improved statistics and changes to definitions, revealed a contraction in gross domestic product, or GDP, in the July-to-September quarter of 2000.

Instead of inching ahead at the first reported 0.6 percent annual rate in that quarter, GDP shrank 0.5 percent, Commerce said. The weaker estimate is mostly due to a larger drop in private inventories than previously reported.

President Bush and his economic team have long insisted he inherited a recession from the former Clinton administration, and the White House may seize on these new numbers to back that claim.

The economy bounced back smartly in the fourth quarter but the revisions show the economy weakened just before hitting the top of the business cycle late in 2000.

"The cyclical peak is still the fourth quarter of 2000, but this does indicate that there was perhaps more slowing before the downturn than the estimates had previously shown," said Brent Moulton, who is in charge of compiling the GDP report for the Bureau of Economic Analysis.

The National Bureau of Economic Research, a private firm deemed the official arbiter of U.S. business cycles, officially dated the slump from March to November 2001.

PROFITS UP, SAVINGS DOWN

The revisions alter how Commerce measures key parts of the economy, including insurance and banking, and incorporate new source data from tax returns and the Census Bureau.

Many of the shifts cancel each other out, leaving the overall history of economic growth largely unchanged. For example, annual inflation as measured by the GDP report remains a muted 1.8 percent for the 1992-2002 decade.

But the adjustments pushed down the pace of the expansion since the recession's end to the second quarter of this year to a 2.6 percent annual rate, from an originally reported 2.7 percent pace.

They also make the recession milder than first thought, with the economy shrinking 0.5 percent during the downturn rather than the previously estimated 0.6 percent contraction.

Corporate profits were revised up substantially for 2002 due to a change in the treatment of stock options. Profits of domestic industries as a percentage of gross domestic income were 7.1 percent compared with 6.3 percent previously.

Savings, however, were pushed sharply lower beginning in 1987 because personal spending was higher than previously thought and personal income was revised down, Commerce said.

While Americans have for years put progressively less money aside for rainy days, the erosion now seems worse than first thought.

Savings hit just 2.3 cents out of each dollar of disposable personal income in 2002, compared to a previously estimated 3.7 cents. That declined to 1.9 cents in the first quarter of 2003 and 2.3 cents in the second quarter -- down from the originally reported 3.5 cents and 3.2 cents, respectively.

The effect of the revisions on data from the third quarter of 2003 -- including corporate profits and a final measure of overall GDP -- will be released on Dec. 23, Commerce said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clintonrecession; economy; gdp; recession
This is the second revision of the Clinton years by the Bush statistical team. Probably fair play since the Clinton team revised the Reagan-Bush years several times as well.
1 posted on 12/10/2003 7:20:06 AM PST by lchoro
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To: lchoro
But, but, but it's the economy, stupid. Clinton was, is, and always will be a shyster.
2 posted on 12/10/2003 7:25:06 AM PST by Quilla
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To: lchoro
Yeah, like Clintoon saying it was "The worst economy in 50 years" and the dumb ass democrats believing it.
3 posted on 12/10/2003 7:28:30 AM PST by MarkeyD (My dog is the best bitch I know!)
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To: Quilla


"I'm deeply saddened and troubled by this."



"I agree Tom. This is F'n Ridiculous! F'n Miserable Failure Bush!
4 posted on 12/10/2003 7:30:28 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (A tiger is a tiger. Some things you can't change no matter how hard you try.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
LOL...Why the long face Senator?
5 posted on 12/10/2003 7:31:04 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (A tiger is a tiger. Some things you can't change no matter how hard you try.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Because his poll numbers are down and he can't ketchup.
6 posted on 12/10/2003 7:56:07 AM PST by Broadside Joe
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To: lchoro
http://members.aol.com/seinfeld/george.jpg

Did someone say "shrinkage?"
7 posted on 12/10/2003 8:01:01 AM PST by adam_az
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To: lchoro
doh :)



Did someone say "shrinkage?"
8 posted on 12/10/2003 8:01:50 AM PST by adam_az
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To: lchoro
But extensive revisions dating back to 1929, incorporating both improved statistics and changes to definitions, revealed a contraction in gross domestic product, or GDP, in the July-to-September quarter of 2000.

Hey that's right when candidate GWBush started talking down the economy. See, this proves that it's all Republican's fault. < /sarcasm>

9 posted on 12/10/2003 8:09:14 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: ConservativeMan55
I understand that JF'nKerry was in vietnam. Wonder which side he fought for?
10 posted on 12/10/2003 8:47:42 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: lchoro
It was Bill Clinton's economy!


(AFP/File/Mario Tama)

11 posted on 12/10/2003 9:34:13 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ConservativeMan55
LOL... Good work!
12 posted on 12/10/2003 9:38:40 AM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there is the face of Islam!)
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To: lchoro
Most people investing (and activly tracking their investments) in the Stock Market and holding mutual funds also saw this comming. I noticed rate of returns dropping drastically in 1999 and early 2000, well before the campaign started, but the "experts" in the "non-biased" media said everything was hunky-dory......and the Clinton Band played on until the Titanic sunk.

But I actually will come out far ahead here, like most people investing for the long term. I used the slump in the market to buy more stock (at discount prices) and now my accounts will do quite well as the market goes up. But that's just how the market works...kinda like poker.

Well, ok, I'll be far ahead until another socialist democrat is ellected and taxes the life out of me until I am on welfare.
13 posted on 12/10/2003 1:17:40 PM PST by M1Tanker (Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
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To: Eaker
ping
14 posted on 12/10/2003 1:24:08 PM PST by thackney (Life is Fragile, Handle with Prayer)
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To: lchoro
Have you noticed how difficult it is becoming to predict the past? It keeps changing. Imagine, then, the poor businessman who has to predict the future based on protean representations of the past. Yet, when something goes wrong, the crows on the fences are uniform in their expectation that everyone knew everything all along.

Hmm. I don't know what prompted this rant,either.
15 posted on 12/10/2003 1:55:27 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: lchoro
This is news? Check out the graphs in http://www.speakeasy.org/~dervish/recession.pdf

The economy fell off a cliff early in 2000.
17 posted on 12/10/2003 7:02:18 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: lchoro
Keep track of the revisions as long as you also keep track of when Bush's budgets and policies would take effect - 2002 at the earliest. 2001 is a Clintoon budget. So shaving three months one way or the other is moot - the recession was inherited - FACT.
18 posted on 12/10/2003 8:53:47 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross
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To: lchoro
"The U.S. economy shrank in the third quarter of 2000, the government said on Wednesday in revisions to official figures that showed America was on the brink of recession months earlier than previously thought"

Since March of 2000, I've been saying the economy was on a downhill slide. A few others recognised the signs too. We were right. However, nobody listened, not even here at FR. This isn't revisionism. It's a correction of the record.

19 posted on 12/11/2003 4:13:11 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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