Hillary to Troops: Support for War Fading

NewsMax.com ^ | 11/29/03 | "With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff"

[thesummerwind]

Moderator note: I know it's going to be tough, but, please watch the calls for violence against this creature.

In a demoralizing message to U.S. soldiers serving in Iraq, visiting New York Sen. Hillary Clinton told them that Americans back home are growing increasingly skeptical of President Bush's decision to send them into battle.

Describing two meetings with G.I.s over turkey dinners in Baghdad, Sen. Clinton told reporters later that soldiers wanted to know "how the people at home feel about what we are doing."

Clinton said she told the troops, "Americans are wholeheartedly proud of what you are doing but there are many questions at home about the (Bush) administration's policies."

She also suggested that the U.S. could eventually loose the war in Iraq, contending, "We have to exert all of our efforts militarily, but the outcome is not assured."

Despite her sour pronouncements, the former first lady insisted that the soldiers were just as glad to see her as they were President Bush, whose surprise visit less than 24-hours earlier was greeted with standing ovations.

"It's a positive for the commander-in-chief to visit troops in the field," Clinton told reporters, adding, "the troops [also] seemed to appreciate seeing myself."

Speaking from a secure location just over the Kuwaiti border, Mrs. Clinton launched one verbal salvo after another at the White House, arguing that Bush officials had been "obsessed" with getting Saddam Hussein and saying the perception blinded them to the difficulties of deposing his regime.

"The Pentagon tried to make do with as few troops as possible, as light a footprint as they could get away with," Clinton said. "Now, we're playing catchup . . . Unfortunately, I don't think they fully appreciated the conditions we would encounter."

The top Democrat also reprised her charge that the White House is being less than candid when it comes to apprising the American people of the costs of the war.

"The obstacles and problems here are much greater than the administration usually admits to," she said, adding, "Everybody has to be honest."

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[harpo11]

Talk about hard time duty, standing next to that over-rated shrew. I bet some of these guys would have rather been on latrine duty rather than be used in Mrs. Clinton's political ambition oportunistic photo-op.

[sweetliberty]

Got it. Thanks.

[potlatch]

Another good one! #1802

[Kudsman]

There is a solution

I'm listenin..

I have been informed that the impetus for any type of recall motion would have to be done during a State Constitutional Convention. The window of opportunity for holding such conventions is set by law to be a somewhat lengthy interval. I believe it was either 16 or 27 year time spans and we are presently quite a ways away from that now.

There is also no way to enact any sort of citizen initiative/referendum question regarding the subject. So we are left with relying on the rest of the good folks of the USA to rebuke any of our elected officials. If the people of the Empire State can have some kind of showing (maybe like a co-ordinated state wide rally) in acceptance of the penalty for censure then something can be done. Congressional leaders from other states would listen to their constituencies and see our resolve to bear the burden of sedition. Realistically, it would take a Herculean effort to get an overtaxed state citizenry with a large segment of the population dependant on Government spending to accept. If it did occur, it would be momentous in the "struggle" ( how do you like the commieword?) against socialism. Like a modern day tea party.

Keep me posted please.

[nicmarlo]

FYI, see my post #1820

for links I posted on FR witht the specific language of what is proposed for recalls. There are four different posts I cut and past the language....and I believe my first post has the link to get directly to the bill, itself. If you are able to explain, exactly what it means when it says something about "two more legislative elections" (not quoting exacting right), I'd appreciate your posting it here. Thanks.

[Kudsman]

Another way would be to have a strong candidate and active base defeat her in '06 using this incident and the spitting incident together, repeatedly.

[nicmarlo]

a strong candidate and active base defeat her in '06 using this incident and the spitting incident together, repeatedly.

MOST DEFINITELY!

[Kudsman]

If you are able to explain, exactly what it means when it says something about "two more legislative elections"

It has to do with actually calling a State Constitutional Convention into being I believe. Once one is called other State Laws are open for review also, so this is something to keep in mind. I will check into it further again and post what I find.

[nicmarlo]

Thanks much...signing off for tonight (actually, for this a.m.).

[autoresponder]

CLICK TO RELOAD HILLARY:

[Calpernia]

>>>There is also no way to enact any sort of citizen initiative/referendum question regarding the subject.

I'm up wayyyy tooo past my bedtime. But I get this message in late from my judge/military friend:

"I forgot to complete one of my thoughts on Hillary Clinton. A campaign can be lodged by citizens to the Senators and Representatives in the U.S. Congress for censureship of Senator Clinton"

I'm assuming that means our requests can't be ignored? To date, from the posts so far, it seems the email, phone calls might be being ignored? Maybe we can approach our senator/congressional contacts better so it can't be ignored?

I'm off for now. Be back for follow ups.

[Kudsman]

The bill would provide the means and procedures by which statewide elected officials, that is the Governor, Lieutenant Governor, Attorney General and Comptroller, may be recalled and removed from office prior to the expiration of the terms for which they have been elected.

If this is the whole language of the recall bill then a Federal Senator is not subject from what I read. This is another real good arguement for repealing the 17th BTW. Make the Senator's answerable to the State Legislatures again and folks will pay attention. A 6 year term has a considerable longer period of insulation when compared to a 2 year Representative (elected) term.

[Kudsman]

>>>There is also no way to enact any sort of citizen initiative/referendum question regarding the subject.

Oh I am sorry for the confusion. It should say there is no way for any sort of NY citizen initiative/referendum question. You as a NJ citizen are indeed free to urge your Federal Senator to consider censure.

[Kudsman]

I'm up wayyyy tooo past my bedtime.

Yeah sandman is calling me too. See you soon.

[Springfield45]

Since WHEN is it a Senator's business to fly out to a battle area half-way across the world and demoralize our troops, anyway?
I get the feeling the Wannabe Queen of America really feels like people must worship her and hang on her every royal word.

[TheWriterInTexas]

Judging by the smell, they already have!

[bjcintennessee]

ping for later read.

[MeekOneGOP]

Hillary to Troops: Support for War Fading
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"Good shot, Mr. President!"

"Thank you !" ...

[Calpernia]

come see the pic autoresponder has here!

[Calpernia]

>>>State Constitutional Convention

Where are we exactly on this timeline?

>>>>Realistically, it would take a Herculean effort to get an overtaxed state citizenry with a large segment of the population dependant on Government spending to accept.

What exactly does this mean in common speak? Does this mean that citizens are in the current states hip pockets for monies? Cause people follow the money. If we were able to implement a private funding source...we could lure people off the gov moneywise. Example, a private granting source for nonprofits.

Or did you mean something else?