Much truth to the last sentence.. good article in general. It's long just an excerpt here.
1 posted on
11/23/2003 10:16:01 AM PST by
freedom44
To: freedom44
Posted yesterday.
2 posted on
11/23/2003 10:18:33 AM PST by
BunnySlippers
(Help Bring Colly-fornia Back!)
To: freedom44
bump
3 posted on
11/23/2003 10:26:59 AM PST by
Az Joe
To: freedom44
Really informative article--thanks for posting it! I've read lots of fiction set during the crusades and was a history major at college, but never put two and two together and realized the actual reason for the beginning of the crusades, and bought into the story that the Europeans were just after property and gold. Thanks!
4 posted on
11/23/2003 10:30:30 AM PST by
Rutabega
To: freedom44
The entire middle east was Christian-led for hundreds of years under the Romans/Byzantines, a fact few ever mention because there is no "Byzantine lobby." Under the peculiar reasoning of the region, where former occupation supposedly = right to current domination, Christians have as much right to rule everywhere from London to Basra as anyone else, Muslims or Jews or pagans or whatever.
To: freedom44; HoustonCurmudgeon
So what is the truth about the Crusades? Scholars are still working some of that out. But much can already be said with certainty. For starters, the Crusades to the East were in every way defensive wars. They were a direct response to Muslim aggression—an attempt to turn back or defend against Muslim conquests of Christian lands. Well someone finally got it right.
To: freedom44
ping
10 posted on
11/23/2003 11:35:45 AM PST by
boycott
To: freedom44
Bookmarked. I didn't see it yesterday, either.
11 posted on
11/23/2003 11:42:06 AM PST by
cgk
(Kraut, 1989: We must brace ourselves for disquisitions on peer pressure, adolescent anomie & rage.)
To: freedom44
Without the Crusades, it might well have followed Zoroastrianism, another of Islam’s rivals, into extinction. Well, not quite.
There are still a large number of Parsees in India who follow this religion, and even a few Gabours(sp?) remain in India, although heavily persecuted.
The Bahai religion was born of a fusion of Islam and Zoroastrianism.
13 posted on
11/23/2003 12:58:47 PM PST by
Restorer
To: freedom44
I think many of the Crusaders were heroes.
Too bad we have not been educated to recognize them.
To: freedom44
Great post! I'd like to think scholars of the period are starting to reassess the Crusades, but I'm not holding my breath.
To: freedom44
Bookmark
16 posted on
11/23/2003 4:26:01 PM PST by
Ben Chad
To: freedom44
To: freedom44
27 posted on
09/10/2004 12:20:03 PM PDT by
TEXOKIE
(Father in Heaven, take command of America and her Mission, her leaders, her people, and her troops!)
To: freedom44; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny
History piece for archiving ping.
30 posted on
09/10/2004 4:24:15 PM PDT by
Calpernia
("People never like what they don't understand")
To: freedom44
To my knowledge, there were several Crusades, the last of which bore little resemblance in motivation and behavior to that which came before it.
As I recall, it was focused more on destroying the Byzantine Empire, which was Christian.
So..."The Crusades" is a rather complicated catch-all phrase.
32 posted on
09/10/2004 4:33:20 PM PDT by
PoorMuttly
("Now, there you go again.")
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35 posted on
09/11/2004 5:39:53 AM PDT by
Cronos
(W2K4)
To: freedom44
So
islamism has been the scourge of civilization for centuries!
Now we are well into the Final Crusade!
To: freedom44
42 posted on
09/11/2004 6:23:50 AM PDT by
varon
(Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
46 posted on
08/06/2006 7:04:33 PM PDT by
SunkenCiv
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