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Court rules Ten Commandments can stay at Capitol
Ft. Worth Star-Telegram/AP ^ | 11/13/03 | AP

Posted on 11/13/2003 5:52:18 PM PST by ppaul

http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/news/state/7254764.htm







Posted on Thu, Nov. 13, 2003


Court rules Ten Commandments can stay at Capitol


Associated Press

The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has affirmed the state's position that the placement of the Ten Commandments monument on the Capitol grounds is not an unconstitutional attempt to establish state-sponsored religion.

Thomas Van Orden, a homeless man living in Austin, had sued to have the monument removed, calling it an endorsement of Judeo-Christian beliefs by the state government.

The state countered that the 6-foot tall red granite monument is more historical than religious, with key segments of law founded on the moral and cultural ethics provided by the commandments.

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott applauded Wednesday's appeals court ruling.

"The Ten Commandments are undoubtedly a sacred religious text, but they are also a foundational document in the development of Western legal codes and culture," Abbott said Thursday. "The Texas monument has stood for over 40 years, and the court's decision affirms that the monument is entirely consistent with the requirements of the U.S. Constitution."

The Fraternal Order of Eagles donated the monument to the state in 1961.







TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Texas
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Guess all the Justice Roy Moore bashers are full of sh*t after all!
1 posted on 11/13/2003 5:52:19 PM PST by ppaul
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bttt
2 posted on 11/13/2003 5:54:31 PM PST by righthand man
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To: ppaul
Well duh! ; )
3 posted on 11/13/2003 5:55:32 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: ppaul
:-}
4 posted on 11/13/2003 5:55:50 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Diogenes
Is this smaller or larger than Judge Moore's "rock"?
5 posted on 11/13/2003 5:56:43 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: ppaul
Thomas Van Orden, a homeless man living in Austin

Sounds like a prayer life wouldn't hurt him at all.

6 posted on 11/13/2003 5:57:25 PM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: ppaul
Looks like it's soon going to be time for Sandra Day O'Connor to start looking at French public opinion polls again so she can tailor her ruling to fit their sensibilities.
7 posted on 11/13/2003 5:59:19 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: ppaul
"The Ten Commandments are undoubtedly a sacred religious text, but they are also a foundational document in the development of Western legal codes and culture," Abbott said Thursday. "The Texas monument has stood for over 40 years, and the court's decision affirms that the monument is entirely consistent with the requirements of the U.S. Constitution."

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott understands the Constitution!

8 posted on 11/13/2003 5:59:22 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: jwalsh07
Size doesn't matter right?
9 posted on 11/13/2003 5:59:24 PM PST by Gumption
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To: Diogenes
Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott applauded Wednesday's appeals court ruling.

"The Ten Commandments are undoubtedly a sacred religious text, but they are also a foundational document in the development of Western legal codes and culture," Abbott said Thursday. "The Texas monument has stood for over 40 years, and the court's decision affirms that the monument is entirely consistent with the requirements of the U.S. Constitution."

Going to SCOTUS now, two big rocks on state property. The one in Texas is constitutional, the one in Alabama is "unconstitutional".

Fifth and Eleventh Circuits at loggerheads, call in the "law makers". :-}

10 posted on 11/13/2003 6:00:04 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: ppaul
Of all days to have this news. I will pray for Judge Moore to be returned to his position.
11 posted on 11/13/2003 6:01:00 PM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: Gumption
Ten is still ten, right? Too much 'ink' on this total topic, IMHO.
12 posted on 11/13/2003 6:01:43 PM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a long walk on a short pier, anytime, the sooner the better!)
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Just wonderin here. How does a "homeless" man afford to hire a lawyer to sue in Federal court?
13 posted on 11/13/2003 6:02:04 PM PST by navyblue
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To: ppaul
Guess all the Justice Roy Moore bashers are full of sh*t after all!

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

14 posted on 11/13/2003 6:02:12 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I have a plan. I need a dead monkey, empty liquor bottles and a vacuum cleaner.)
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To: Aquamarine
That's why I voted for him. It was either that or turn the state of Texas' top attorney position over to Tarrytown.
15 posted on 11/13/2003 6:02:40 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Progressives- people who seek the right to child sacrifice (to the god of self- convenience).)
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To: jwalsh07
Is this smaller or larger than Judge Moore's "rock"?

To me, it appears larger, and more "in your face" than Alabama's.
Of course, it's Texas-sized!


16 posted on 11/13/2003 6:04:00 PM PST by ppaul
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To: jws3sticks
Ten is still ten, right?

I hope so.

Too much 'ink' on this total topic, IMHO.

The Constitution bores you huh?

17 posted on 11/13/2003 6:05:12 PM PST by Gumption
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To: ppaul
Here's the decision from the Fifth Circuit, Van Orden v Perry
18 posted on 11/13/2003 6:05:57 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Two Circuits with differing opinions should almost force the U.S. Supreme Court to take the case, if it appealed, in order to reconcile the law. This could get very interesting now. Moore may be be avenged yet.
19 posted on 11/13/2003 6:06:18 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Your comment grossed me out more than the one to which you responded.
20 posted on 11/13/2003 6:08:08 PM PST by Gumption
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