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Panel Rules Justice Moore Failed to Respect & Comply with Law; Judge removed from Supreme Court
Posted on 11/13/2003 9:23:02 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: E Rocc
Jefferson did not believe in the divinity of Christ. Franklin confessed to doubts. Paine was contemptuous of organized religion. American liberty was by no means an exclusively a Christian effort. Haven't I been over this with you before? Franklin gave GOD credit for the revolutionary war in his speech at the Continental Congress, wherein he quoted 6 bible verses. Some deist!
Jefferson was not an orthodox Christian - you are right - but he played no major role in the 1st amendment and did not attend the Const. convention. Furthermore, he called hismelf a Christian in 1816 - need the quote? He also attended CHRISTIAN church services in the CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS WITH THE USMC BAND! Didn't someone tell Jefferson about the separation of church and state?
Besides these few you mentioned, name more deists! Name just 10 more! I guarantee you can't! Stop trying to mislead people with your history twisting - you cannot make a case that the founders were not Christian, but I can!! I can cite quotes from Hamilton, Jay, Washington, Witherspoon, Hopkinson, Madison, Henry, S. Adams, Gov. Morris, and many more that prove their Christian faith (52 of the 55 attendees at the Const. Convention were active members of their churches - read the register for church membership).
If you want to take this further, I will bury you in quotes. Your points are the same tired old hackneyed points that are repeated over and over by all antichristian revisionists as that is all you got.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:41:50 AM PST
by
exmarine
(sic semper tyrannis)
To: Guenevere
Ah, comeback and post, these are intense times and this is a great place to test what you believe.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:42:24 AM PST
by
Porterville
(Grow some leather or go away.)
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
WELL TROOPS, WE ARE LIVING IN A JUDICIAL DICTATORSHIP.
NO WONDER THE DEMOCRATS ARE SEETHING ABOUT APPOINTMENTS. THEY CAN ONLY KEEP EVIL PEOPLE IN THE COURTS IF THEY SUCCEED IN THWARTING THE DESIRE OF GOOD MEN TO BE RULED IN A JUST WAY.
I AGREE WITH THE NUMEROUS SENATORS WHO ARE SAYING THERE IS A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS AT PRESENT.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:43:14 AM PST
by
RISU
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
He stood his ground and now he is being punished. He will be rewarded for this... watch and see.
To: george wythe
That's what the US Supreme Court has said. The Fourteenth Amendment incorporated the First Amendment to the states. But that's not what the 1st amendment clearly says. REad it again: Congress (not judiciary) shall make no law... Repeat that over and over until you get it thru your head that judges CANNOT MAKE LAWS. Only Congress can establish a religion. Get it? A courthouse in backwater county is not Congress or a State legislature.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:43:41 AM PST
by
exmarine
(sic semper tyrannis)
To: WackyKat
Thank you for admitting that you do think that non-Christians are second class citizens I never said that. I'm just saying they probably will become one by their own choice. They have no self control. No moral base. No internal law. No ideal. As a man thinkith in his heart, so is he. If he feels he's a second class citizen - he is.
I have nothing to do with anyones choices. Why would you think I'm responsible for the lost? They chose their own path, and suffer the consequences by their own hands.
I'm not their judge or exicutioner, they are.
You are responisible for your actions - be they good or evil. Good with lead to a blessed life, evil will lead to a life of saddness and chaos. You chose whom you will serve.
Some have chosen the lost path, and today expect others to correct it for them, yet they still won't repent. Because of that we've become a nation of vileness and disease - complete with the tax slaves to financily support it.
Imagine a country without theft, murder, covetness, adultry, lies.....Is that so bad to have people at least read a list like this? What harm would it bring? Would someone read and understand the wisdom? Is that a BAD thing?
To: exmarine
In that case, why are the courts erasing Christianity from the public sphere
They are not. They are saying that government may not promote specific beliefs. Government is not all of "society" or even "the public sphere", not by a long shot.
-Eric
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:43:56 AM PST
by
E Rocc
To: Zack Nguyen
This is a nation of laws, not of men.
That's right - and Justice Moore was trying to obey the Highest Law.
That's right and he was elected by the law to represent people under the law.... not the Federal Government's wishful all encompassing control
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:44:26 AM PST
by
Porterville
(Grow some leather or go away.)
To: WackyKat
They have a theocracy-see how you like it! They too dislike the ten commandments. Go figure!
To: WackyKat
SO they say we are a nation of laws--not of men.IF true
WHY then is the Federal court allowed to violate the
clean and unambiguous language of the Constitution at will?
Why bother with a written Constitution if the unjust judges
can make up their own with impunity?Seems if they can do that then I can interpret th elast verse of the Book of Judges :"In those days there was NO law in America and
everyone did what was right in their own eyes."The Honorable
Roy Moore is right these tyrants of the judicial olygarchy
have sacraficed an innocent man
To: Belial
In truth, it was the reintroduction of Greek thought into Europe, transmitted through Jews and Arabs, that brought Europe out of the Dark Ages. Where did you learn your history? Revisionism-R-Us?
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:45:34 AM PST
by
exmarine
(sic semper tyrannis)
To: Belial
"I agree, in general. In the case at hand, however, you are saying that a law is "bad" because it defies the will of God. "
What we are seeing is how a corrupt court system that extends now all the way to the USSC can bounce the non conformers to its corruption right out the door.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:45:44 AM PST
by
Revel
To: WackyKat
If you really have such a martyr complex that you want to be persecuted, you should move to a Muslim country. They're on your team. They also want Christianity and Jewdism silenced by law.
To: LadyPilgrim
#58..I am sickened by this as well, and for what it's worth, the majority of folks on Dayside..said the 'panel' was wrong in their decision.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:47:13 AM PST
by
Guenevere
(..., .a long time Florida resident and voter!)
To: concerned about politics
Thank you for admitting that you do think that non-Christians are second class citizens I never said that. I'm just saying they probably will become one by their own choice.
... If we did a good act merely from the love of God and a belief that it is pleasing to Him, whence arises the morality of the Atheist? It is idle to say, as some do, that no such thing exists. We have the same evidence of the fact as of most of those we act on, to wit: their own affirmations, and their reasonings in support of them. I have observed, indeed, generally, that while in Protestant countries the defections from the Platonic Christianity of the priests is to Deism, in Catholic countries they are to Atheism. Diderot, D'Alembert, D'Holbach, Condorcet, are known to have been among the most virtuous of men. Their virtue, then, must have had some other foundation than love of God. -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Thomas Law, June 13, 1814.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:47:14 AM PST
by
E Rocc
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
The first amendment to the Constitution CLEARLY states
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment
of religion or prohibiting the free extercise thereof;..."
The Tenth Amendment CLEARLY states that "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."
SINCE the Constitution was adopted, approved and in effect in several states at the begining of our Republic in which there was an official STATE church, the intent of the Founding Fathers is very clear here.
Judge Moore did NOT violate the Constitution of the United States, Judge Myron Thompson did by his deliberate distortion of Federal Juridical power to pander to the ACLU and the Atheists who are determined to atheize America.
Governor Bob Riley of Alabama shoudl have refused to allow the Federal Order to be imposed. The Federal Courts would have to have gone to George Bush and asked him to nationalize the Alabama State National Guard to enforce this unlawful edict by a Federal Judge. George Bush would have been faced with two choices: a) Enforce the Judge's edict and incur the wrath of his fundamentalist Christian southern base, or b) ignore the little tyrant on the Federal Court and allow Alabama to continue to exist under the flag and the Constitution of our forefathers. What do YOU think Bush would have done?
Consequently the REAL culprit here is the Governor of the State of Alabama, Bob Riley. His e-mail address is:
http://www.governor.state.al.us/email/contact_form.htm
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:47:22 AM PST
by
ZULU
To: exmarine
A great study was undertaken by one of the ivy league schools a little over a decade ago (I forget if it was Harvard Law or Yale Law) which determined that every law can be reduced to one of the Ten Commandments! The Ten Commandments is the basis of all law! I think the protest of some people on this board shows their ignorance. The same ones that are the most intolerant call everyone else intolerant. I saw this used quite effectively during the Clinton years by the Clintons.
To: Chancellor Palpatine
From my understanding, he was from low class beginnings I can't stand Moore, but to attack someone because they happen to come from a low-income background is wrong
I've known people who were born to wealth, and people who were born in trailer parks; there are despicable people and good people in both groups., and to say otherwise is just bigotry.
To: All
The 9 - 0 ruling is very convincing that the problem of inbreeding among the hierarchy of the ruling elite has permeated. The ignorance is even reaching the lower echelons of society, including this forum.
Republicans can cry all they want about their judicial nominations. Remember how one of those appointees who has been blocked, stood behind judicial activism in this matter. But but were supposed to believe it's Judge Moore whos seeking higher office when he has shown no move in that direction as yet. Those who agree with the decision have never been able to quote any law, they only spew excuses that allow them to submit and have proven themselves to be wimps for the tyranny of judicial activism.
It is the cowardly inbred elitists who have bent over and the only thing we can do is take the independent path and let the Nation burn until more people get a clue. People are catching on, but you won't see it hiding behind the keyboard, you need to go out and talk to people.
Let the inbreds spew their excuses while you join the rest of us in the streets and help to educate the masses.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:47:51 AM PST
by
Fearless Flyers
(Proud to be of The Brave and the Free, http://fearless-flyers.com)
To: exmarine
I guess Charlamagne doesn't count.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:48:04 AM PST
by
Porterville
(Grow some leather or go away.)
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