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Panel Rules Justice Moore Failed to Respect & Comply with Law; Judge removed from Supreme Court
Posted on 11/13/2003 9:23:02 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
From Dred Scott to the Stokes Trial to the Moore Trial...another defining moment in American history. Alabama has just criminalized defense of its own Constitution, which upholds the foundation of law and liberty on natural and inalienable, God-given, rights, not those granted by man, as well as public worship of God and the natural right to legislate based on "morality."
There are HUNDREDS of decisions each year from Federal courts, and TENS OF THOUSANDS of "administrative rulings"/regulations, that states IGNORE every year. It is part of the push and pull of FEDERALISM. Here, the people of Alabama have been BETRAYED by utter COWARDS on the Judicial Court. They didn't even have the courage to explore whether the Judge was right UNDER ALABAMA LAW, or whether the U.S. Supreme Court had the lawful power to "uphold" (deny cert.) such a ruling. If America has lost the courage to resist unconstitutional and tyrannical rulings from the Federal bench -- and we have a Supreme dictatorship forming before our eyes, then we have lost the STATES as a bulwark against tyranny. This isn't the 1860s or 1960s. Most state governments have, like Alabama, already surrendered in the defining struggle of the 21st century -- whether the Republic will survive.
To: exmarine
Defiance of bad laws does not require a theocracy.
I agree, in general. In the case at hand, however, you are saying that a law is "bad" because it defies the will of God.
That's the textbook basis for a theocracy.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:28:34 AM PST
by
Belial
To: TrueBeliever9
There are a lot of people on this board who should take all the money in their wallets and in their bank accounts and burn it! It states "IN GOD WE TRUST" No, money is their biggest love in alot of cases - they would never burn it. Behind all of this hullabaloo is the basic battle of worldviews: Secular humanism (atheism) vs. judeo-Christianity. Secular humanism is the antithesis of Christianity - the two are opposite, cannot be synthesized, and only one can dominate society. Worldview is at the heart of everything in life. For example, The secular humanists do not believe in God, therefore invariably believe in darwinian evolution, that all reality can be reduced to mere material forces, therefore that human beings have no intrinsic value or inalienable rights, and that all religion is superstitious nonsense!
On the other hand, Christians believe in God, in special creation, that human beings do have intrinsic value and inalienable rights and that God is the ultimate arbiter of rights, not the State.
The secular humanists are acting on their worldview as you can see in the rulings of these blackguard judges and their minions in the ACLU. For Christians, the question is: ARE WE? ARE WE? It's time to stand up and fight these villains and tyrants. Rise up church!
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:28:42 AM PST
by
exmarine
(sic semper tyrannis)
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Laying low.
Who is LOW?
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:28:43 AM PST
by
HuntsvilleTxVeteran
(CCCP = clinton, chiraq, chretien, and putin = stalin wannabes)
To: xzins
I was in court the other day and couldn't help but notice that the judge's courtroom (this is the courtroom, not her chambers) was decorated with a whole slew of "multicultural" type decorations -- mainly Kwanza stuff. The courtroom was also decorated with a bunch of nature pictures with various bible verses mainly from the book of proverbs and the book of psalms.
So far no one has complained. I know I'm not going to complain as I find it refreshing that a Judge recognizes that there is an authority higher than themselves to whom they expect to answer someday.
Because of this judge's reputation as being somewhat liberal and because she is a "woman of color" I think it will be a cold day in hell before she is asked by anyone to remove the pictures. But I really wonder if a white male judge with a southern accent would be given the same slack.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:28:45 AM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(Milquetoast Q. Whitebread is alive!)
To: Elisha_Ben_Abuya
That is why it is a republic, we get to vote for our public officials.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:29:17 AM PST
by
Porterville
(Grow some leather or go away.)
To: concerned about politics
AntiChrist - opposed to Christianity.I don't make the unsaved second class citizens. They do it to themselves. It's the law of accountability. It's a deathstyle choice
Thank you for admitting that you do think that non-Christians are second class citizens
And for admitting that anyone who opposes a theocracy is "antiChrist", according to you.
Fortunately for us, we are protected from people like you by the Bill of Rights and people who will struggle to uphold it.
To: Chancellor Palpatine
"Psychotic" is rooted in his belief that he was right and would prevail. Heavens. Imagine that, folks. If you believe you're right about something, even though others say you're wrong, and that you will prevail in the long run, you are psychotic. There 'tis, in black and white. That would seem to indicate there have been maaaaaaany psychotics in our nation's and the world's history. Doubtless of course, there have been.
Some might say that calling another person psychotic with no medical evidence could be interpreted as, "You don't think the way I do, dammit! Therefore I shall call you names and hope that others believe it!"
I, however, would never do so. It could be considered slander. And at all costs, we certainly don't want to have that on this board.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:29:47 AM PST
by
TheBigB
(One picture is worth a thousand dollars, but the sheep has to be wearing lipstick.)
To: Elisha_Ben_Abuya
Indeed.. I'd like to see what would happen were a Muslim judge to erect a carved stone Koran in her courthouse! Nothing. The ACLU would defend her. They would claim "Freedom of Religious Expression."
The lost are not after the other religions. They're after Christians and Jews.
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; WackyKat
Listening to him, I'm wondering if he isn't going simply to announce that he's running again for his position as Alabama Chief Justice.
It is an elective office.
What will the judiciary do if he wins again...and again...and again?
It would be quite a statement on his part.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:30:42 AM PST
by
xzins
(Proud to be Army!)
To: TexasGunLover
"We need to have the laws changed so that the monument can be kept in place where it was."
You need to have what law changed ? There is no law giving the courts the authority to dictate what they did to Judge Moore. As far as I am aware it is all base on false precidences from activist judges recreating the law via the bench. Show me this law you speak of. If you can't then I think that it becomes obvious that Judge Moore is simply upholding the real law.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:30:46 AM PST
by
Revel
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Judge Morre conducted himself contrary to his oath. He failed to respect and comply with the law.Well, I guess that's what is being decided.
On behalf of Judge Moore, though, I guess it should be said that he believed his position as Chief Justice authorized (compelled?) him to disregard any federal court orders that didn't meet with his approval.
Ultimately, though, I guess it's the State of Alabama that gets to decide the proper role and function of its own Chief Justice. If the State of Alabama wants to have a Chief Justice that complies with federal orders, that should be the end of the matter, it seems to me.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:31:36 AM PST
by
Scenic Sounds
(A veces, la locura reside tan cerca como una peca mera.)
To: exmarine
The discoveries were made possible ONLY because of their Christian worldview: The universe is ordered and rational and can be understood becuase it was created by a rational God.
If Christianity created the impetus for the Age of Reason, why did Europe stagnate for a 1000 years when the Church held sway?
In truth, it was the reintroduction of Greek thought into Europe, transmitted through Jews and Arabs, that brought Europe out of the Dark Ages.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:31:47 AM PST
by
Belial
To: Porterville
What exactly would you boycott?
To: alancarp; Hessian
The monument was paid for with private funds not by Judge Moore.
Traditionally it is a Chief Justices prerogative to decorate the Court House.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:32:46 AM PST
by
Fearless Flyers
(Proud to be of The Brave and the Free, http://fearless-flyers.com)
To: Revel
It is the law of the ballot box, we can vote the people we want to represent and appoint public officials or we can directly elect judges..... If they believe in the Christian God and the people want that man representing their court then they have the right to elect that man. REPUBLIC NOT A DICTATORSHIP
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:33:04 AM PST
by
Porterville
(Grow some leather or go away.)
To: exmarine
You secular humanists are trying to establish ATHEISM as the offical religion which is a violation of the estblishment clause Nonsense. The government should take no position on religion-complete neutrality
You are the one trying to establish Christianity as the official religion
To: Belial
If Christianity created the impetus for the Age of Reason, why did Europe stagnate for a 1000 years when the Church held sway? Because the people were held down by the Catholic church and the Holy Roman Empire - they were not even given bibles (until 1384 and John Wycliffe), were not educated, and learned only what the priests told them. That all changed with the Reformation.
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:33:59 AM PST
by
exmarine
(sic semper tyrannis)
To: P-Marlowe
Good news for your theory, PM.
Moore went out of his way to mention that there was a statue of a Greek Goddess (I think he said Athena) in the courtyard of the District Court. Said he could care less. Didn't make him worry about justice.
I believe he just acknowledged another direction -- your direction -- that he would go. You are the first I saw or read of the theory of "art" and "speech."
Did you write any articles on it?
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posted on
11/13/2003 10:34:08 AM PST
by
xzins
(Proud to be Army!)
To: xzins
There is customarily a prohibition on running to replace yourself once you're removed. He could run after the expiration of his term, however.
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