Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

ABC asks (but in the wee hours): Was Jesus married? (Christianity takes another hit.)
AP News ^

Posted on 11/01/2003 7:19:13 AM PST by Happy2BMe

ABC asks (but in the wee hours): Was Jesus married?



The Associated Press


    NEW YORK -- ABC News correspondent Elizabeth Vargas concedes her network is stepping into a theological minefield with its one-hour exploration of whether Jesus Christ had a wife.
    The ABC News special, "Jesus, Mary and DaVinci," is scheduled to air Tuesday, November 3rd, at 3:35 a.m. (The prime time slot on Monday is occupied by Monday Night Football.)
    "You can't talk about this subject without intriguing people or offending people," Vargas said earlier this week. "We're trying to do it as respectfully as we can."
    ABC screened the special for some reporters and religious leaders on Thursday. The program is based on the best-selling novel, The DaVinci Code, which claims to be partly grounded in historical fact.
    The book asserts that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife -- not a prostitute, as in some teachings -- and that she fled Jerusalem with his child after his crucifixion.
    The story was kept alive for centuries by a secret society that included the painter Leonardo DaVinci, who supposedly inserted clues about it in his art, the book claimed.
    The ABC special speaks to several theologians who either discount the story or assert that it is possible. Vargas said ABC found no proof that Jesus had a wife, but couldn't completely discount it, either.
    Vargas, who was raised a Roman Catholic, said her own parents said to her, "Oh, my goodness, what are you doing?" when they found out she was working on the story.
    It drew some immediate criticism, particularly from a representative of the Catholic League, who said ABC News relied too heavily on the opinion of the Rev. Richard McBrien of Notre Dame, who believes Mary Magdalene's importance has been historically understated and that it's possible she was his wife.
    "The facts themselves scream out that this is a crackpot theory," said Joseph DeFeo, policy analyst for the Catholic League.


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: abc; christianity; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; jamescameron; letshavejerusalem; lies; mariame; mariamne; marymagdalene; simchajacobovici; talpiot; weddingatcana
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 161-171 next last
To: Happy2BMe
(I will get flamed for this post, I know)

You may want to take a look at the Gospel of Mary for a better idea about her possible status.

Further, you may want to consider exactly how much respect or following would an unmarried rabbi get.

61 posted on 11/01/2003 9:14:21 AM PST by mvonfr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Happy2BMe; All
If Jesus was married, would it change anything that he said or did? Would it change why he had to come to earth? Would it change his message? Remember, Jesus himself said that he had to fulfill the law. It is my understanding that the Jews at that time, considered the first law that God gave was to be fruitful and multiply. Personally, I don't think it matters one bit whether Jesus was married or not. Besides, the Bible is NOT a biography of Jesus, but of his ministry from God. So, what does it matter if he had a wife or not. There was a book published in 1949(?) that addressed this very question. I think the title was “Was Jesus Married?”, but I can’t remember the author. I do remember the author saying that if Jesus hadn’t been married, then there would have been serious questioning of his “Jewishness”, and even fewer people would have listened to his message. Also, the life expectancy at that time was what? Late 20’s, early 30’s? The author went on to say that perhaps that is why Jesus didn’t start his teachings until after he was thirty, because maybe his wife had died by then, or worse, had left him by then. Remember when Jesus was questioned about divorce and what he said? Could that question have been because the questioners knew that he had a wife that had left him? What I am saying is, if Jesus was married, would it change our belief in Jesus and God? If it does, then maybe we need to get back to the basics of our belief in God, because we are becoming too much like the Pharisees and Sadducees; concentrating too much on rules, human introduced doctrine, and such and not on the message that Jesus brought us. This “debate” takes away from the message! God loves us and will forgive us, but only by accepting the sacrifice that Jesus made for us. So tell me, where does the question of whether Jesus was married or not even enters into that picture?

Okay, so much for what I've got to say, so I'll just shut up and log off. Besides, I've got to get ready to go to a football game. Take care folks.
62 posted on 11/01/2003 9:16:31 AM PST by AFMobster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oztrich Boy
It is only a theory that requires the healing to have occured after the point in time you assume the ministry began.

When her problems began is speculation although rooted in logic. But when she was healed is not speculation but must have been after His ministry began as it is recorded that the beginning of the signs was at Cana.

So she must have been healed after that point.

63 posted on 11/01/2003 9:17:07 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Happy2BMe
Is the Catholic League still around?! When I was a kid in the late 50's/early 60's, my friends would always say, when I suggested we go to the movies, "We have to check the Pittsburgh Catholic to see if they say we can go." Meaning, the bishops had to approve it first, or my Catholic friends couldn't go.
64 posted on 11/01/2003 9:18:35 AM PST by Ciexyz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Happy2BMe
McBrien of ND and Curran of CUA were the two priests who led the revolt at the time Pope Paul VI issued Humanae Vitae. That refusal to accept the encyclical on birth control and abortion was the protest action that began the Catholic liberal dissent movement in the U.S.

McBrien has been quoted as a Catholic "expert" by the NY Times and similar sources more than any other person. He used to be matched by Frances Kissling, but her credibility has faded in recent years. Whenever the liberal press wants an "expert Catholic theologian" to give them the quotes they want, they turn to McBrien.
65 posted on 11/01/2003 9:18:38 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Cana is recorded as the first public display, not the first.
66 posted on 11/01/2003 9:21:45 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (You realize, of course, this means war?" B Bunny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: MEG33
Yes. One of his brothers could well have been the bridegroom. That wedding does appear to have been in the family. Jesus' mother traveled some distance to get there and the Bible says Jesus' disciples were there as well. Generally, when you are invited to a wedding you don't bring all your friends --- unless the wedding is in the family.
67 posted on 11/01/2003 9:23:01 AM PST by StupidQuestions
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: Oztrich Boy
What is so offensive about the claim that a 40ish 1st Century Jewish man was married?

Jesus never made it to age 40.

Tradition states that he was crucified at age 33 for our sins, died and rose again.

68 posted on 11/01/2003 9:26:31 AM PST by Ciexyz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Oztrich Boy
ignore previous post by me
69 posted on 11/01/2003 9:27:48 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (You realize, of course, this means war?" B Bunny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: dubyaismypresident
3:35 a.m. LOL

A good time slot to air the Reagan miniseries, if CBS insists on airing that hatchet job at all.

70 posted on 11/01/2003 9:29:01 AM PST by Ciexyz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: AFMobster
I find the whole thing to be typical of the media.. so unsurprising. Man's foolishness to look for folly, instead of the value. I agree that the fact what only really matters is, do you believe? Did "God come and dwell among us?" I watch man suffer all of the time, mostly by his own doing, myself included.
God saves us all..
if we would only listen, instead of asserting our own will.
71 posted on 11/01/2003 9:29:45 AM PST by Former
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Oztrich Boy
Cana is recorded as the first public display, not the first.

Incorrect. The record, which is what we are going on, says it was indeed the first.

This beginning of signs Jesus did in Cana of Galilee, and manifested His glory; and His disciples believed in Him. John 2:11

If it was the beginning of signs then it was the first sign.

72 posted on 11/01/2003 9:30:11 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: Happy2BMe; Timesink
According to my Satellite guide (and my system), the special is scheduled at 8P ET on both my ABC channels (WSB/Atlanta; WABC/New York), and after MNF on the west coast (I've got KABC/Los Angeles).

Sharon won't get pre-empted (at least not 'cause of this; now with any luck, MNF will run into overtime....)...
73 posted on 11/01/2003 9:30:27 AM PST by mhking
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oztrich Boy
Oh sorry. I just read your reply not the whole thread.
74 posted on 11/01/2003 9:31:32 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
The AP story is wrong on the time - it's scheduled (according to my satellite system which is current as of this morning) for Monday night at 8P ET, just before MNF. It'll run after MNF on the west coast.

Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

75 posted on 11/01/2003 9:32:12 AM PST by mhking
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Happy2BMe
"Was Murderin' Mo a child molester"? Film at 8.... < /sarcasm >
76 posted on 11/01/2003 9:33:37 AM PST by Theo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ciexyz
Tradition states that he was crucified at age 33 for our sins, died and rose again.

Unfortunalely tradition has serious problems

Jeus born in time of Herod the Great (d.4BCE)
John the Baptist began his ministry in 28CE
Jesus began his ministry sometime after that
Jesus's ministry lasted 3 years

Do the math.

77 posted on 11/01/2003 9:33:51 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (You realize, of course, this means war?" B Bunny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: Happy2BMe
I don't agree that Christianity is taking a hit from this at all. How do we know that Jesus was not married? We don't. The Jewish faith revers to Jesus as a Prophet, not the son of God. In Dan Brown's book, "The Da Vinchi Code", he mentions a number of books on this subject and the history of the Gospels. Now although the story in his book may be somewhat fictional a lot of what he writes is based on a research. The History Channel just had a piece on who wrote the bible and confirms a lot of what Brown wrote in his book. There is a great deal we do not know about Jesus and his life. I for one don't find it impossible that Jesus may have been married and that it was Mary Magdalene.
Remember the Vatican has a lot of information in it's archieves and libraries that they have never released to the world.
78 posted on 11/01/2003 9:34:40 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dubyaismypresident
Does McBrein harbor a secret wish to be Episcopalian? He'd fit right in with the delegates at this year's general convention.
79 posted on 11/01/2003 9:36:34 AM PST by secret garden (Pray as though your life depends on it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Oztrich Boy
John the Baptist began his ministry in 28CE

Where did you get that date from?

Now Jesus Himself began His ministry at about thirty years of age, Luke 3:23

Three years of ministry makes Him about 33 at the time of the crucifixion.

80 posted on 11/01/2003 9:42:59 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 161-171 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson