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ABC asks (but in the wee hours): Was Jesus married? (Christianity takes another hit.)
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Posted on 11/01/2003 7:19:13 AM PST by Happy2BMe

ABC asks (but in the wee hours): Was Jesus married?



The Associated Press


    NEW YORK -- ABC News correspondent Elizabeth Vargas concedes her network is stepping into a theological minefield with its one-hour exploration of whether Jesus Christ had a wife.
    The ABC News special, "Jesus, Mary and DaVinci," is scheduled to air Tuesday, November 3rd, at 3:35 a.m. (The prime time slot on Monday is occupied by Monday Night Football.)
    "You can't talk about this subject without intriguing people or offending people," Vargas said earlier this week. "We're trying to do it as respectfully as we can."
    ABC screened the special for some reporters and religious leaders on Thursday. The program is based on the best-selling novel, The DaVinci Code, which claims to be partly grounded in historical fact.
    The book asserts that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife -- not a prostitute, as in some teachings -- and that she fled Jerusalem with his child after his crucifixion.
    The story was kept alive for centuries by a secret society that included the painter Leonardo DaVinci, who supposedly inserted clues about it in his art, the book claimed.
    The ABC special speaks to several theologians who either discount the story or assert that it is possible. Vargas said ABC found no proof that Jesus had a wife, but couldn't completely discount it, either.
    Vargas, who was raised a Roman Catholic, said her own parents said to her, "Oh, my goodness, what are you doing?" when they found out she was working on the story.
    It drew some immediate criticism, particularly from a representative of the Catholic League, who said ABC News relied too heavily on the opinion of the Rev. Richard McBrien of Notre Dame, who believes Mary Magdalene's importance has been historically understated and that it's possible she was his wife.
    "The facts themselves scream out that this is a crackpot theory," said Joseph DeFeo, policy analyst for the Catholic League.


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To: Slings and Arrows
Okay, I'm done. < /rant >

Why rant on me, just because I'm so good-lookin' online. :-) But was He married? We gotta trust the mainstream press, right?? [/sarcasm]

101 posted on 11/01/2003 11:50:58 AM PST by Ff--150 (we have been fed with milk, not meat)
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To: Happy2BMe
Some people believe the following:

The Bible was completely rewritten in the early centuries AD. Certain information was removed in the new version:

-- In addition to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, there were other stories of the life of Jesus.

-- Jesus married and had children.

-- There were more than 12 Apostles, and some were women.

102 posted on 11/01/2003 11:58:19 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: Oztrich Boy
Possible Time Line

8 BCE Roman Census
?8-7 BCE Jesus is born
?7-5 BCE The Wise arrive. Joseph, Mary and Jesus flee to Egypt
4 BCE Harod the Great dies.
1 CE or 4 CE Tiberius Caesar is named heir to the Emperor Caesar Augustus
16-19 CE John begins his ministry (see here for why this is the possible date.)
22 – 24 CE Jesus begins his ministry

And now we are totally off the subject.

103 posted on 11/01/2003 12:05:10 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style)
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To: AFMobster
"Personally, I don't think it matters one bit whether Jesus was married or not. Besides, the Bible is NOT a biography of Jesus, but of his ministry from God."

One of the amazing things about the Bible is that it IS INDEED a biography of sorts of Jesus. See Luke 24:27 "...He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning HIMSELF." (emphasis mine) Note that he didn't expound "his ministry" in the Scriptures (the Old Testament) but the things concerning Himself.

It opens up an exciting vista when we read it carefully.

105 posted on 11/01/2003 12:22:40 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: MEG33
Oh Good Grief.There is nothing in the Bible that suggests his marriage.

Is it not possible that the Bible could at one time have had such references but that those references could have been removed in later versions of the Bible?

106 posted on 11/01/2003 12:26:48 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: theFIRMbss
Actually, there is another gospel that is apocrypha (it might be the gospel of Timothy, but I'm not sure) that actually SAYS straight out that Jesus slept with boys. It was circulated in a small community, but was thoroughly discounted because the gospel had so many other inconsistencies with the Synoptic gospels.
107 posted on 11/01/2003 12:38:49 PM PST by mrs9x
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To: Lessismore
In His 30's, lives at home, hangs-out with the guys, drinks wine...Irish
108 posted on 11/01/2003 12:47:57 PM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: Oztrich Boy
I have trouble with anyone who substitues CE for BC
109 posted on 11/01/2003 12:50:28 PM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: StupidQuestions
LMAO
110 posted on 11/01/2003 12:51:20 PM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: BlueNgold
Dang, why did He not forsee this difficulty when this was predestined?

An oversight perhaps?

If only He had created his own Boswell

111 posted on 11/01/2003 12:53:16 PM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: Toespi
LMAO I cannot believe the gullibility of folks. I'm sorry, but this is all hysterically funny
112 posted on 11/01/2003 12:54:45 PM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Why the use of the CE when EVERYONE knows the CE is based upon AD - Jesus Christ, True God and True Man.

Good Lord, am I reallly asking this of a guy named "oztrich?

113 posted on 11/01/2003 12:58:06 PM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: Tom D.
I not only appreciate, in the sense I recognise it, I repudiate and abhor the heresy you mention
114 posted on 11/01/2003 1:01:12 PM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: mhking
According to my Satellite guide (and my system), the special is scheduled at 8P ET on both my ABC channels (WSB/Atlanta; WABC/New York), and after MNF on the west coast (I've got KABC/Los Angeles).

Well ... JUST DAMN!

(How perfect: The AP screwing up a potential ABCNEWS Schadenfreude story. Why don't they just throw in something completely incorrect about CNN and make my Psychic Circle of Work Pain complete?)

Sharon won't get pre-empted (at least not 'cause of this; now with any luck, MNF will run into overtime....)...

Mmmm, multiple clock-stopping injuries and a rain delay followed by double overtime, with the game not ending until about 2:15 am.... *drool* (They don't even have double OT in the NFL, though, do they? What's the best-case scenario for a game that goes on FOR-EV-ER?)

115 posted on 11/01/2003 1:01:53 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Ff--150
But was He married? We gotta trust the mainstream press, right??

If so, nobody invited me to the wedding. :^(

116 posted on 11/01/2003 1:03:26 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (And I was going to bring a cheesecake!)
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To: Catholicguy
It would have been highly bizarre for Jesus to not have been married. Not only at age 29 or so when he began his ministry, but by age 19.

It's kind of a joke now, with bar mitzvah's at 13, but it was serious back then. You started taking on adult responsibilities at age 13.

Rabbis were married men. Women were most often ignored. Jesus could very well have been married, and not to Mary Magdalene. Even though he was the messiah, his wife would not have been important. Mary, his mother was, because of the virgin birth, but the name of his wife, the disciples wives, were simply considered fluff basically. It would be like describing a sporting event's big play, then commenting about the color of the seat you were sitting at. Just not important enough to mention.

Jesus was flesh. I don't think it diminishes him in any way to have been married. It elevates him. If Jesus was not bound to the world in every way, it lessens the sacrifice.

I don't get those who believe that Jesus was basically a "saint" who was seperate from his flock. By being married, having human hungers, thirsts, desires, then being told to give it all up, and suffer on the cross, it is more powerful a sacrifice than being told that Jesus could do no wrong, was perfect, and basically wouldn't have anybody to miss back on earth.

If I was told that God made me, I was infallible, and I could hang out for 33 years, in exchange for spending a day on the cross, then I would go to Heaven and be all powerful again, forever, sure, that is suffering, but it's not a supreme sacrifice. Being human, fearful, able to feel pain, loss of seperation makes the act deeper. Having a human wife, who he could never again touch physically, not just sexually, but in a corporal state, for example, just holding hands, and being told to get up on the cross and leave it behind, that hurts.

117 posted on 11/01/2003 1:07:07 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: Happy2BMe; narses; NYer; american colleen; Thorondir; Loyalist; ninenot
re: Was Jesus married?

No, but I understand Peter Jennings has trouble staying married...

118 posted on 11/01/2003 1:09:09 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: SedVictaCatoni
This is puzzling. What instances have there been of "public gatherings of
Christians" being banned?


I don't know is that specific category is covered...but you might check David Limbaugh's
book "Persecution" the next time you hit the bookstore.
119 posted on 11/01/2003 1:11:54 PM PST by VOA
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To: dogbyte12
Was John the Baptist married?

I will ask you the same question Walter Mondale asked Gary Hart "Where's the beef?"

I am sorry you think the suffering of a mere man would be more sacrificial than God becoming man (Jesus is BOTH God and man; two natures, wills ect. Please do some research re Hypostatic Union) and dying for your sin. GOD died on the Cross. For YOU.

120 posted on 11/01/2003 1:13:33 PM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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