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Mohammed, The Mad Poet Quoted....
The Koran | 10-17-03 | PsyOp

Posted on 10/17/2003 11:58:54 PM PDT by PsyOp

Mohammed, The Mad Poet Quoted....

Not too long ago I was listening to the radio, Bill O'Reilly on KFMB, as I recall. During his show, Bill was talking about some passages from the Koran that had appeared in print that seemed to contradict much of the CAIR and other Islamic apologist propaganda.

During the program a man, a Muslim, called in to the show to accuse O'Reilly of being unfair and taking things out of context, etc. He then said that you need to have an Imam explain these passages to you so you can understand their meaning. This of course means one of several things.

The first possible meaning is that the average person is too stupid understand the Koran without help. Another is that Mohammed chose not to speak plainly and clearly when relating Allah's word for one reason or another. Or, possibly, that the Imam's tell their followers this so that they may remain in control of the religion, and interpret it as they please without fear of contradiction.

Having read the Koran, cover to cover, and in its various parts, I contend that it's the latter--with the added twist that Mohammed had been out in the hot sun too long and was not thinking all that clearly during most of his sermons. One of the reason's I believe this are the frequent admonishments to the faithful not to listen to others speak about their religions. Fear of contradiction of the Koran as a whole as well of its constituent parts is a consistent theme.

That is not to say that there is no confusion in the Koran that needs clarification. In fact, the Koran goes from being quite clear to downright confusing and back again, repeatedly. Mostly it consists of rambling parables, admonitions repeated ad nauseum, and bad retellings of Old Testament stories (often repeated in fragments). The Koran is also difficult to read because as it lacks any kind of narrative thread and is constantly repeating itself. In fact, my copy, which spans over 400 softcover pages, could easily be condensed to about 50 pages and still thoroughly cover every it has to say. Not true with The Bible.

Other than that, anyone with a high school education and the will power to wade through it can easily understand it (most of it anyway), without help from anything other than a strong cup of coffee--which probably accounts for the Islamic ban on alcoholic beverages. It's guaranteed to bore you into a deep sleep if you try reading it under the influence. And Mohammed probably got upset when people fell asleep during his sermons.

We've heard all the rhetoric about the Koran being a book of peace and enlightenment, but little about the parts of the Koran that give rise and fuel to fanatical hatred and terrorism. The few that have been quoted in the press are pounced on by CAIR and other groups and isolated phrases taken out of context. The follow those charges up by pointing out bad things Christians have done in previous decades and centuries. The difference is that when Christians have persecuted and killed people they were acting against the principles of their faith. When Muslims do it they are acting in accordance with the Koran.

Another point that needs to be made is that all of the things that people point to in the Bible, to make the Koran look less bloody by comparison, are in the Old Testament. And almost all are refuted or moderated by the New Testament. The Koran is all "Old Testament" and makes the fire and brimstone of the first half of the Bible seem mild by comparison.

The following passages are just a sampling of what what I would call the "Dark Side" of the Koran. Or, at the very least, those that are interpreted by certain Imam's to mean that it is O.K. to blow up babies and drive airplanes into skyscrapers. They are presented in the order they appear in the Koran and I have taken care not to quote things out of context (something we infidels are always accused of doing). I will also add my layman's commentary and translations (in bold), as we proceed.

One of the ways to determine whether something is just an "isolated passage" or part of a larger, mainstream theme, it to take a look at how many times the same or similar wording appears. It must be assumed if something is repeated, it must be something that was intended to be remembered. Frequency says a lot. Therefore, in this posting, you will find what appear to be redundant quotes. There are included to show that a particular theme is not "isolated."

BTW, just by writing this little piece I am subject to being the object of a Fatwah. So, if I see any middle-eastern, or Nation of Islam looking types cruising slowly by my house, I will shoot first and ask questions later.... (yes, I profile).


The Quran, Translation: M.H. Shakir. In the citations I have added the Names of the various books (Surah's). They have very little to do with the subject of their particular Surah, so don't read anything into them..

One more thing: Depending on who you talk to, the term Jihad can mean anything from struggling with your zipper to all-out nuclear Holy-war, and several stops in between. You will not find the word in most available English translations, where it has been substituted with the words "fight" and "struggle". Where you see those words in the following passages they may or may not refer to Jihad.


And there are some people who say: We believe in Allah and the last day; and they are not at all believers. They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they do not perceive. There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they lied. - Koran, Surah II: 8-10, "The Cow."

According to Mohammed, Allah hates hypocrites worse than infidels (or at least as much). This is a common and often repeated theme, but it only applies with regard to hypocrisy concerning belief in Allah, which probably explains Islam's constant use of Hypocrisy in all other instances.


Who break the Covenant of Allah after its confirmation and cut asunder what Allah has ordered to be joined, and make mischief in the land; these it is that are the losers.
    How do you deny Allah and you were dead and He gave you life? Again He will cause you die and again bring you to life; then you shall be brought back to Him. - Koran, Surah II: 27 & 28, "The Cow."

There are several passages like this. I believe that this passage and others like it support Islamic laws against converting from Islam, and the subsequent penalties that go along with it--like death. It's an effective way to keep from losing your flock to competing religion. Kill any who convert and the rest will get the message.


And (as to) those who disbelieve in and reject My communications, they are the inmates of the fire, in it they shall abide. - Koran, Surah II: 39, "The Cow."

All infidels go to Hell, even Christians and Jews. This is one of the most repeated themes in the Koran.


And do not mix up the truth with the falsehood, nor hide the truth while you know (it). - Koran, Surah II: 42, "The Cow."

I threw this one in so you can quote it back at those jerks from CAIR the next time they start spinning.


And there are... Illiterates who know not the Book but only lies, and they do but conjecture. Woe, then, to those who write the book with their hands and then say: This is from Allah, so that they may take for it a small price; therefore woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn. - Koran, Surah II: 78 & 79, "The Cow."

Depending on how you choose to read this and other passages like it, this includes people like me, and that Rushde guy who wrote Satanic Verses, and so upset the Mullahs that they issued a death sentence against him. It also seem to provide for the punishment they decreed.


Those who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book do not like, nor do the polytheists, that the good should be sent to you from your Lord....
   Many of the followers of the Book wish that they could turn you back into unbelievers after your faith, out of envy from themselves, (even) after the truth has become manifest to them.... - Koran, Surah II: 105 & 109, "The Cow."

My guess is that this provides for Islamic laws that make it illegal to bring religious texts other than the Koran into some Islamic countries, and make it illegal to even speak to a Muslim about Christianity or Judaism under penalty of death.


And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say: surely Allah's guidance, that is the (true) guidance. And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper. - Koran, Surah II: 120, "The Cow."

And don't you dare convert to their religion, or else.


And whoever disbelieves, I will grant him enjoyment for a short while, then I will drive him to the chastisement of the fire; and it is an evil destination. - Koran, Surah II: 126, "The Cow."

You better enjoy yourself while you have the chance.


The East and the West belong only to Allah; He guides whom he likes to the right path. - Koran, Surah II: 142, "The Cow."

Two things here. First, the whole world belongs to Allah. Second, he only guides the people he likes to the right path. This not only negates free-will, but leads to the obvious conclusion that if you do not follow the right path it is because Allah does not like you. A little on the petulant side for a loving God and the antithesis of the Old and New Testaments.


And do not speak of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead; nay, (they are) alive, but you do not perceive. - Koran, Surah II: 152, "The Cow."

Die fighting for Allah and you go to heaven.


Surely those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers, these it is on whom is the curse of Allah and the angels and men all.... - Koran, Surah II: 161, "The Cow."

Ah, such tolerance....


And there is life for you in (the law of) retaliation, O men of understanding, that you may guard yourselves. Bequest is prescribed for you when death approaches one of you, if he leaves behind wealth for parents and near relatives.... - Koran, Surah II: 179-180, "The Cow."

The Palis probably know this one by heart. It even talks about those cash rewards to the families of those who blow themselves up.


And kill them wherever you find them [we infidels], and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers. - Koran, Surah II:191, "The Cow."

Pretty self-explanatory...


And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah. - Koran, Surah II:193, "The Cow."

Keep fighting until everyone is either dead or Muslim.


Ask the Israelites how many a clear sign have We given them; and whoever changes the favor of Allah after it has come to him, then surely Allah is severe in requiting (evil). - Koran, Surah II: 211, "The Cow."

In other words, the true word was revealed to them, they rejected it, and now they're going to get theirs from Allah, or Yassir, or Hamas.


Allah does not call you to account for what is vain in your oaths, but He will call you to account for what your hearts have earned, and Allah is Forgiving, Forbearing. - Koran, Surah II: 225, "The Cow."

Being a vainglorious blowhard is O.K. as long as you are a believer at heart. So much for humility. This passage probably explains all those grandiose boasts by Saddam and Bin Laden.


And fight in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is Hearing, Knowing. - Koran, Surah II: 244, "The Cow."

It might mean Jihad... it might not. Lets ask CAIR.


Allah is the guardian of those who believe. He brings them out of the darkness into the light; and (as to) those who disbelieve, their guardians are Shaitans who take them out of the light into the darkness; they are the inmates of the fire, in it they shall abide. - Koran, Surah II: 257, "The Cow."

Ever hear of night-vision? Allah may be your guardian in the light, but we own the night. Sorry. Couldn't resist.


Say to those who disbelieve: You shall be vanquished, and driven together to hell; and evil is in the resting place. - Koran, Surah III: 12, "The Family of Imran."

Sounds like war to me...


O you who believe! Do not take for intimate friends among others than your own people; they [unbelievers] do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still.... - Koran, Surah III: 118, "The Family of Imran."

This one is quoted in the Hamas Charter. Basically, were not good enough to be their friends and we cannot be trusted. BTW you'll see this one again.


Yea! If you remain patient and are on your guard, and they come upon you in a headlong, your Lord will assist you with five thousand of the havoc-making angles. - Koran, Surah III: 125, "The Family of Imran."

I wonder, is this is what Saddam was counting on? Just make sure they aren't those crappy Soviet-made havoc angels....


And certainly you desired death before you met it; so indeed you have seen it and you look (at it). - Koran, Surah III: 143, "The Family of Imran."

Come all-ye suicide-bombers....


And a soul will not die but with the permission of Allah; the term is fixed; and whoever desires the reward of this world, I shall give him of it, and whoever desires the reward of the hereafter I shall give him of it; and I will reward the grateful. - Koran, Surah III: 145, "The Family of Imran."

You might as well blow yourself up because you have no free-will and you'll die when Allah wants you to, and if you die blowing yourself up, it must be because Allah wants you to, so why feel guilty about it?


Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. - Koran, Surah IV: 34, "The Women."

Someone call the gals from N.O.W.


O you who believe! Take your precaution, then go forth in detachments or go forth in a body. - Koran, Surah IV: 71, "The Women."

Jihad anyone?


Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward. - Koran, Surah IV:74, "The Women."

I would imagine that this passage is used to bolster the proposition that suicide bombers really are allowed by the Koran.


They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper. - Koran, Surah IV:89, "The Women."

We're coming to a town near you and you will convert to Islam or die.


You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority. - Koran, Surah IV:91, "The Women."

Somewhat unclear as to the exact nature of the provocation, but quite clear that you can pursue and kill whoever does whatever this passage refers to (it does not really help the clarity to add the passages immediately preceding or following). The Mullahs probably make great use of this passage.


And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his punishment is hell; he shall abide in it, and Allah will send His wrath on him and curse him and prepare for him a painful chastisement. - Koran, Surah IV:93, "The Women."

Definitely falls under the preceding set of punishments. Kill a Muslim, whatever your reason and you better be Muslim yourself.


The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement. - Koran, Surah V: 33, "The Food."

Of course, waging "war against Allah and His apostle" can be interpreted in many ways.... everything from speaking out against Islam to dropping a JDAM on Bin Laden. Whatever suits the propaganda needs of the clerics.


And (as for) the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their hands as a punishment for what they have earned, and exemplary punishment from Allah; and Allah is Mighty, Wise. - Koran, Surah V: 38, "The Food."

I have to admit, I kinda like this one.


O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes for them a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people. - Koran, Surah V: 51, "The Food."

So much for tolerance and that middle-east peace plan. Remember this one when the hypocrites at CAIR talk about Jews and Christians being "people of the book" who should not worry about devout Muslims. I challenge them to find an equivalent statement anywhere in the Bible.


O you who believe! take care of your souls; he who errs cannot hurt you when you are on the right way; to Allah is your return, of all (of you), so He will inform you of what you did. - Koran, Surah V: 105, "The Food."

This one is kind of interesting. If the enemy wins it is because you were not faithful enough.


Do they not consider how many a generation We have destroyed before them, whom We had established in the earth as we have not established you, and We sent clouds pouring rain on them in abundance, and We made rivers to flow beneath them, then We destroyed them on account of their faults and raised up after them another generation. - Koran, Surah VI: 6, "The Cattle."

Sometimes variations on this passage are in reference to the story of Noah, Lot, Exodus and others. This one is not used in particular reference to any Old Testament destruction. It's just letting the unbelievers know that Allah has wiped them out wholesale in the past and will probably do it again.


And who is more unjust than he who forges a lie against Allah or (he who) gives the lie to His communications; surely the unjust will not be successful. - Koran, Surah VI: 21, "The Cattle."

Anyone who says anything bad about Allah/Mohammed is unjust. I guess that would be a reference to me or anyone else who points out the Koran's little inconsistencies.


And this world's life is naught but a play and an idle sport; and certainly the abode of the hereafter is better for those who guard (against evil); do you not then understand? - Koran, Surah VI: 32, "The Cattle."

I wonder if blowing up women and children, or gassing whole populations, is considered "idle sport."


And certainly We sent (apostles) to nations before you, then We seized them with distress and affliction in order that they might humble themselves. - Koran, Surah VI: 42, "The Cattle."

Sounds like the Wahabbi infiltration plan to convert the world to radical Islam.


And when you see those who enter into false discourses about Our communications, withdraw from them until they enter into some other discourse,.... - Koran, Surah VI: 68, "The Cattle."

Muslims are so secure in their faith that they are instructed to stick their fingers in their ears and run away when others start talking about their religions. If that doesn't work and they convert to another religion, kill them. Mohammed must have known how weak his arguments were.


They are lost indeed who kill their children foolishly without knowledge, and forbid what Allah has given to them, forging a lie against Allah; they have indeed gone astray, and they are not the followers of the right course. - Koran, Surah VI: 140, "The Cattle."

Mama's... don;t let your babies grow up to be suicide-bombers. (sung to the tune of "Mama's don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys".) A passage conveniently forgotten by the PLO, Hamas, etc. Then again, it's all in the interpretation.


Whoever brings a good deed, he shall have ten like it, and whoever brings an evil deed, he shall be recompensed only with the like of it, and they shall not be dealt with unjustly. - Koran, Surah VI: 160, "The Cattle."

Too many Muslims seem to be overly selective in their application of this rule.


And for every nation there is a doom, so when their doom is come they shall not remain behind the least while, nor shall they go before. - Koran, Surah VII: 34, "The Elevated Places."

Sooner or later Allah is going to get us. Then we'll be sorry. (This is another frequently repeated theme).


Evil is the likeness of the people who reject Our communications and are unjust to their own souls. - Koran, Surah VII: 177, "The Elevated Places."

If you don't accept Islam you are unjust--period. Can't you feel the love? ...the tolerance?


And (as to) those who reject our communication, We draw them near (to destruction) by degrees from whence they know not. - Koran, Surah VII: 182, "The Elevated Places."

Join us or else...


I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. - Koran, Surah VIII: 12, "The Spoils of War."

More peace, love and tolerance form the book that brought us 9-11.


Surely the vilest of animals, in Allah's sight, are the deaf, the dumb, who do not understand. And if Allah had known any good in them He would have made them hear.... - Koran, Surah VIII: 22, "The Spoils of War."

Various versions of this passage appear throughout the Koran. Some are metaphors regarding those who refuse to listen, some are literal, like this one. The deaf are the way they are because Allah made them that way, and he made them that way because he knew they were bad and would never accept Islam. Pretty twisted logic working here. I wonder what Muslims think about hearing aids....


And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah. - Koran, Surah VIII: 39, "The Spoils of War."

Jihad until all the world is Muslim.


And if you fear treachery on the part of a people, then throw back to them on terms of equality; surely Allah does not love the treacherous. - Koran, Surah VIII: 58, "The Spoils of War."

So, if you think the other guy (non-believer) might betray you, it's o.k. to betray him first. That's the same logic an old girlfriend of mine once used. Where's Dr. Phil when you need him?

"So, Mohammed, how's that working out for you in the relationship department? Have you heard about my fried pork rind diet?"


O prophet! Urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand. - Koran, Surah VIII: 58, "The Spoils of War."

Oh, don't worry, we get it.... We're a little slow sometimes, but we definitely get it.


Announce painful punishment to those who disbelieve. - Koran, Surah IX: 3, "Repentance."

Definitely not feeling the love.


So when the sacred months have passed away; then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. - Koran, Surah IX: 5, "Repentance."

Kind of explains that whole "Crusades" flap.


What! Will you not fight a people who broke their oaths and aimed at the expulsion of the Apostle...? - Koran, Surah IX: 13, "Repentance."

Lots of places to go with this one.


Fight them, Allah will punish them [idolaters] by your hands and bring them to disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people. - Koran, Surah IX: 14, "Repentance."

This passage is significant. It clearly states that Allah intends to have unbelievers killed by the hands of the faithful. Vengeance is not reserved for Judgment Day or for Allah alone. In fact, the only real admonition against killing refers to one Muslim killing another on purpose. Compare this to the Bible.


Fight those who do not believe in Allah. - Koran, Surah IX: 29, "Repentance."

You can't be more clear than that.


And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away! - Koran, Surah IX:30, "Repentance."

Wait a minute! I thought we peoples of the book were supposed to be tolerated?


He it is Who sent His Apostle with guidance and the religion of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all religions.... - Koran, Surah IX:33, "Repentance."

One world, one religion. When the Wahabbi's infiltrate countries by building mosques and acting nice, this is what they are aiming for.


Allah has promised the hypocritical men and the Hypocritical women and the unbelievers the fire of hell to abide therein; it is enough for them; and Allah has cursed them and they shall have lasting punishment. - Koran, Surah IX: 68, "Repentance."

Hell's gonna be real crowded.


O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness. - Koran, Surah IX: 123, "Repentance."

What was that CAIR said about a few isolated and mis-characterized passages from the Koran?


And (as for) those who have earned evil, the punishment of an evil is the like of it, and abasement shall come upon them--they shall have none to protect them from Allah--as if their faces had been covered with slices of the dense darkness of night; these are the inmates of the fire; in it they shall abide. - Koran, Surah X: 27, "Yunus."

Eye for an eye, but not limited in scale to individuals.


For his sake there are angels following one another, before him and behind him, who guard him by Allah's commandment; surely Allah does not change the condition of a people until they change their own condition; and when Allah intends evil to a people, their is no averting it, and besides Him they have no protector. - Koran, Surah XIII: 41, "The Thunder."

I call this one the catch-22 passage. I suppose Mohammed meant to say that God helps those who helps themselves, but remembered it wrong. Instead you have a recipe for fatalism.


Do they not see that We are bringing destruction upon the land by curtailing it of its sides? And Allah pronounces a doom--there is no repeller of His decree, and He is swift to take account. - Koran, Surah XIII: 41, "The Thunder."

We've got you surrounded!


And those before them did indeed make plans, but all planning is Allah's; He knows what every soul earns.... - Koran, Surah XIII: 42, "The Thunder."

More fatalism. In the end, it's all up to Allah.


Hell is before him and he shall be given to drink of festering water:
   He will drink it little by little and will not be able to swallow it agreeably, and death will come to him from every quarter, but he shall not die; and there shall be vehement chastisement before him.
    The parable of those who disbelieve in their Lord: their actions are like ashes on which the wind blows hard on a stormy day; they shall not have power over any thing out of what they have earned; this is the great error. - Koran, Surah XIV: 4,5, "Ibrahim [Abraham]."

More fire and brimstone for the unbelievers whose actions, whatever they may be, will always be for naught. The Koran has lots of descriptions of heaven and hell.


Allah causes the unjust [unbelievers] to go astray, and Allah does what He pleases. - Koran, Surah XIV: 4,5, "Ibrahim [Abraham]."

More catch-22 from Allah. No free-will to choose to believe or not believe because Allah decides who will or will not, and then punishes you for what is essentially his decision.


And never did we destroy a town but it had a term made known. No people can hasten their doom nor can they postpone (it). - Koran, Surah XV: 4,5, "The Rock."

Repent by Noon or else....


Only they forge the lie who do not believe in Allah's communications, and these are liars. - Koran, Surah XVI: 105, "The Bee."

No specific lie here other than to believe in Allah or not. This might also be interpreted as all unbelievers are liars.


He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens his breast to disbelief--on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement. - Koran, Surah XVI: 106, "The Bee."

He who converts from Islam to another religion will suffer the wrath of Allah. In this case death, by the hand of a believer.


And We had made known to the children of Israel in the Book: Most certainly you will make mischief in the land twice, and most certainly you will behave insolently with great insolence. - Koran, Surah XVII: 4, "The Israelites."

And thou art redundantly redundant.


Read your book; your own self is sufficient as a reckoner against you this day. - Koran, Surah XVII: 14, "The Israelites."

And this one is for the nitwit that called into O'Reilly and said that you need an Imam to tell you what the Koran means. Seems to me if your smart enough to figure it out for yourself on Judgment Day, you can probably handle the task when the sky isn't falling.


And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandments to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction. And how many of the generations did We destroy after Nuh [Noah]! - Koran, Surah XVII: 16-17, "The Israelites."

Here's one of those passages that randomly makes reference to the Old Testament story of Noah. In the Old Testament their are numerous stories of destruction by God's wrath, but each of them is specific to a time and place with the stories of Noah and Lott being the most significant. In the Koran, passages like that above are numerous and do not always reference anything specific.

The overall impression is that Allah goes around destroying towns and cities after giving them a chance to convert first. Historically, this is what happened during the spread of Islam. When one looks at the expansion of Islam as it spread through the middle-east, Africa and into Europe during it's salad days, it is easy to see where they got the idea. Islam was spread primarily by the sword. For those who like to point out the Christian Crusades, they should be reminded that those were in response the Muslim Crusade that nearly succeeded in subjugating Europe by the end of the 7th century A.D.


And do not kill any one whom Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause, and whoever is slain unjustly, We have indeed given to his heir authority, so let him not exceed the just limits in slaying; surely he is aided. - Koran, Surah XVII: 33, "The Israelites."

So far the only ones that cannot be slain are Muslims by other Muslims on purpose. Everyone else is fair game for one reason or another.


And we will drive the guilty [unbelievers] to hell thirsty. - Koran, Surah XIX: 86, "Marium."


Surely you and what you worship besides Allah are the firewood of hell; to it you shall come. - Koran, Surah XXI: 98, "The Prophets."

We're all just human Presto-Logs. Anyone have a match?


These are two adversaries who dispute about their Lord; then (as to) those who disbelieve, for them are cut out garments of fire; boiling water shall be poured on their heads. With it shall be melted what is in their bellies and (their) skins as well. And for them are whips of iron. Whenever they will desire to go forth from it, and taste the chastisement of burning.
    Surely Allah will make those who believe and do good deeds enter the garden beneath which rivers flow; they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and (with) pearls, and their garments therein shall be of silk. - Koran, Surah XXII: 19-23, "The Pilgrimage."

Mohammed really had a thing about describing all the punishments of Hell and the pleasures of Heaven. Not much to do with spiritual growth--just avoid the pain and get to the pleasure.


Surely Allah will defend those who believe; surely Allah does not love any who is unfaithful, ungrateful. - Koran, Surah XXII: 19-23, "The Pilgrimage."

So, if an American Army full of unbelievers beats a Muslim Army, what does that mean? I'd like to hear an Imam explain this one. Good thing they don't allow tap shoes in mosques.


Permission (to fight) is given to those whom war is made because they are oppressed, and most surely Allah is well able to assist them.... - Koran, Surah XXII: 39-40, "The Pilgrimage."

"Oppressed" can be defined rather broadly to provide justification.


And (as for) those who strive to oppose Our communications, they shall be the inmates of the flaming fire. - Koran, Surah XXII: 51, "The Pilgrimage."

We're not neccesarily talking about "Judgment Day" or Hell. It could be that guy wearing the bulky over-coat in August.


That (shall be so); and he who retaliates with the like of that which he has been afflicted and he has been oppressed, Allah will most certainly aid him; most surely Allah is Pardoning, Forgiving. - Koran, Surah XXII: 60, "The Pilgrimage."

So much for "Vengeance is mine".


Repel evil by what is best; We know best what they describe. - Koran, Surah XXIII: 96, "The Believers."

A simple statement open to much interpretation.


The fire shall scorch their faces, and they therein [Hell] shall be in severe affliction. - Koran, Surah XXIII: 104, "The Believers."

Getting tired of these descriptions yet. Nearly every Surah in the Koran has one or more like it. I'd call that a pattern, not just a few out-of-context quotes.


Allah has promised to those of you who believe and do good that He will most certainly make them rulers in the earth as He made rulers before them, and he will most certainly establish for them their religion which He has chosen for them.... - Koran, Surah XXIV: 55, "The Light."

Hard to miss the meaning of this one.


Call not this [judgment] day for one destruction, but call for destructions many. - Koran, Surah XXV: 14, "The Criterion."

Does anyone remember 9-11?


The parable of those who take guardians besides Allah is as the parable of the spider that makes for itself a house; and most surely the frailest of houses is the spiders house--did they but know. - Koran, Surah XXIX: 41, "The Spider."

I threw this one in because, except for "The Women", "The Spider" is the only Surah in which the title matches anything in the subject matter.


...none deny Our communications except the unjust. - Koran, Surah XXIX: 49, "The Spider."

Since we're all unjust, I guess that means it's all right to blow us up, hijack airplanes, and be generally unpleasant.


And who is more unjust than one who forges a lie against Allah, or gives the lie to the truth when it has come to him? Will not in hell be the abode of the unbelievers? - Koran, Surah XXIX: 68, "The Spider."

Anyone detecting a pattern here?


Nay! Those who are unjust follow their low desires without any knowledge; so who can guide him whom Allah makes err? - Koran, Surah XXX: 29, "The Romans."

There's that catch-22 again. Allah makes us err, and then sends us to hell because we did. That's I'd call unjust.


Surely they used to behave proudly when it was said to them: there is no god but Allah; And to say: What! Shall we indeed give up our gods for the sake of the mad poet? - Koran, Surah XXXVII: 35, 36, "The Rangers."

They had this guys number even way back then.


This is a reminder; and most surely there is an excellent resort for those who guard (against evil), The gardens of perpetuity, the doors are opened for them. Reclining therein, calling therein for many fruits and drink. And with them shall be those restraining their eyes, equals in age. - Koran, Surah XXXVIII: 49-52, "The Suad."

Now I have searched for specific references to those 72 virgins we keep hearing so much about, and this is the closest I can come to it. I have found one or two other passages that make reference to "those restraining their eyes" awaiting the faithful, but no references to either their number or their chastity. It is possible, however, that I missed it during the many times my eyes glazed over during the search.... One should not drink adult beverages while reading the Koran. Conversely, one should not try to operate heavy machinery or a motor vehicle while reading it. The end result is the same.


Surely Allah does not guide him all right who is a liar, ungrateful. - Koran, Surah XXXIX: 3, "The Companies."

If that's the case, that bunch at CAIR are doomed.


He is Allah, the One, the subduer (of all). - Koran, Surah XXXIX: 4, "The Companies."

My God can beat up your God?


Those who dispute concerning the communications of Allah without any authority that He has given them; greatly hated is it by Allah and those who believe. Thus does Allah set a seal over the heart of every proud, haughty one. - Koran, Surah XL: 41, "The Believer."

Allah did not give me permission to write this, therefore he hates me.


And whoever defends himself after his being oppressed, these it is against whom there is no way (to blame). - Koran, Surah XLII: 41, "The Counsel."

Absolution for the Palestinians. We all know how oppressed they are. All except for Yassir, that is.


So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,... and as for those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish. - Koran, Surah XLVII: 4, "Muhammad."

No translation needed here; but they might want to read Clausewitz or Sun Tzu before they take us on again.


And (as for) those who disbelieve, for them is destruction, and He has made their deed ineffective. - Koran, Surah XLVII: 8, "Muhammad."

See above....


A parable of the garden which those guarding (against evil) are promised: Therein are rivers of water that does not alter, and rivers of milk the taste thereof does not change, and rivers of drink delicious to those who drink, and rivers of honey clarified; and for them therein are all fruits and protection from their Lord. - Koran, Surah XLVII: 15, "Muhammad."

Get to heaven and you are safe from your own God. Makes life sound like a shooting gallery where Allah takes pot shots at you till you make it to home base.


And be not slack so as to cry for peace and you have the upper hand, and Allah is with you, and He will not bring your deeds to naught. - Koran, Surah XLVII: 35, "Muhammad."

In other words, when you have them on the run, keep them on the run--no mercy.


The life of this world is only idle sport and play, and if you believe and guard (against evil) He will give you your rewards, and will not ask of you your possessions. - Koran, Surah XLVII: 36, "Muhammad."

Hmmm... don't take life seriously, and, if you're faithful, Allah let's you take it with you? Deep. Very Deep.


Say to those of the dwellers of the desert who were left behind: You shall soon be invited (to fight) against a people possessing mighty prowess; you will fight against them until they submit; then if you obey, Allah will grant you a good reward; and if you turn back as you turned back before, He will punish you with a painful punishment. - Koran, Surah XLVIII: 16, "The Victory."

What do you want to bet that Bin Laden reads this one a lot? And how do you think it will be interpreted by the Muslim world if we turn tail in Iraq and Afghanistan before finishing our business over their?


He it is Who sent His Apostle with the guidance and the true religion that He may make it prevail over all the religions, and Allah is enough for a witness. - Koran, Surah XLVIII: 16, "The Victory."

Can you say "Wahabbi Fifth-Columnist?" Is it really a good idea to let them recruit in our prisons or to commission them as Army Chaplains?


O you who believe! do not take My enemy and your enemy for friends: would you offer them love while they deny what has come to you of the truth.... If you go forth struggling hard in My path and seeking My pleasure, would you manifest love to them? And I know what you conceal and what you manifest; and whoever of you does this, he indeed has gone astray from the straight path.
    If they find you, they will be your enemies, and will stretch forth towards you their hands and their tongues with evil, and ardently desire that you may disbelieve. - Koran, Surah LX: 1&2, "The Examined One."

That's number three. So I guess it's not such an isolated, out-of-context passage after all. And this one takes it a step further than the others. Remember--frequency and pattern...


O you who believe! why do you say that which you do not do? It is most hateful to Allah that you should say that which you do not do. - Koran, Surah LXI: 2&3, "The Ranks."

Translate as you please.


Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way in ranks as if they were a firm and compact wall. - Koran, Surah LXI: 4, "The Ranks."

And that's what depleted-uranium anti-tank rounds are for.


Further Quotes on The Subject...

"We are terrorists, and terror is an obligation in the book of Allah. Let the west and east know that we are terrorists and we strike fear: 'Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power. Including steeds of war to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies...' (8:60), So Terror is an obligation in the creed of Allah SWT" - Sheikh Abdullah Azzam.

"Our new world rests on order. The danger is disorder. And in today's world, it can now spread like contagion. The terrorists and the states that support them don't have large armies or precision weapons; they don't need them. Their weapon is chaos." - Prime Minister Tony Blair, speech to the U.S. Congress Accepting the Congressional Gold Medal, July 17, 2003.

"I know [the war on terrorism is] hard on America, and in some small corner of this vast country, out in Nevada or Idaho or these places I've never been to, but always wanted to go. I know out there there's a guy getting on with his life, perfectly happily, minding his own business, saying to you, the political leaders of this country, 'Why me? And why us? And why America?'
    And the only answer is, 'Because destiny put you in this place in history, in this moment in time, and the task is yours to do" - Prime Minister Tony Blair, speech to the U.S. Congress Accepting the Congressional Gold Medal, July 17, 2003.

"We expect nations to speak the truth about terror. They shouldn't encourage malicious lies and outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th. No government should promote the propaganda of terrorists." - President George W. Bush, Radio Address to the Nation, from The Oval Office, November 10, 2001.

"The only alternative to victory is a future of terror. So we will fight for victory." - President George W. Bush, Radio Address to the Nation, from The Oval Office, November 10, 2001.

"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option." - President George W. Bush, State of the Union Address, Tuesday, January 28, 2003.

"One hundred percent of the successful terrorist attacks on commercial airlines for 20 years have been committed by Arabs. When there is a 100 percent chance, it ceases to be a profile. It's called a 'description of the suspect...." - Ann Coulter.

"No matter how long this war takes, this issue is the issue of an entire nation which has refused a life of humiliation under American arrogance and Israeli violence. Secondly, the organization of al-Qaida announces that Bush the father, and Bush the son, and in between them, Clinton, Blair and Sharon are at the head of the criminals, the Zionists and the crusaders, who have committed the worst practices and greatest atrocities against the Muslim nation, before and now." - Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, Osama bin Laden spokesman, statement on al-Jazeera satellite channel, October 14, 2001.

"[Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement" - Hamas Charter, Article 13.

"The Muslim women have a no lesser role than that of men in the war of liberation; they manufacture men.... raising the children upon the moral concepts and values which derive from Islam; and of educating their sons to observe the religious injunctions in preparation for the duty of Jihad awaiting them." - Hamas Charter, Articles 17&18.

"This, for the purpose of calling upon the Arab and Islamic peoples as well as their governments, popular and official associations, to fear Allah in their attitude towards and dealings with Hamas, and to be, in accordance with Allah's will, its supporters and partisans who extend assistance to it and provide it with reinforcement after reinforcement, until the Decree of Allah is fulfilled, the ranks are over-swollen, Jihad fighters join other Jihad fighters, and all this accumulation sets out from everywhere in the Islamic world, obeying the call of duty, and intoning "Come on, join Jihad!" Hamas will only be of help to all associations and organizations which act against the Zionist enemy and those who revolve in its orbit." - Hamas Charter, Article 33.

"Safety and security can only prevail under the shadow of Islam.... The members of other religions must desist from struggling against Islam." - Hamas Charter, Article 31.

"Jihad becomes a duty binding on all Muslims.... We must spread the spirit of Jihad among the [Islamic] Umma, clash with the enemies and join the ranks of the Jihad fighters.... I indeed wish to go to war for the sake of Allah! I will assault and kill, assault and kill, assault and kill." - Hamas Charter, Article 15.

"Allah is its goal, the Prophet its model, the Qur'an its Constitution, Jihad its path and death for the case of Allah its most sublime belief." - Hamas Charter, official slogan, Article 8.

Hamas Charter

"Make no mistake: Unless we give this Millennial Generation a clear, cause-and-effect understanding of what freedom is, how it works and what it takes to protect it, then that uniquely American birthright could be lost to history forever.
    "Whatever you do, don't shrug it off. The world has been relatively free now for several decades of the tyranny and terror that faced the great "G.I. Generation" of World War II. But sleeping giants inevitably awaken, and the cycle of history never strays far from its orbit. Make sure the next generation is prepared. Its children and grandchildren will thank God you did." - Charton Heston, "Next Generation Is Our Hope but Must Understand Freedom", June, 2001.

"I wonder ­ is the possibility of being killed through ignorance of a threat somehow secondary to surviving at the expense of offending someone's ethnicity? Have we all gone nuts? (Somebody better turn up the burner on America's melting pot ­ there are still a few lumps in the broth.)
    "The media, and most politicians, are reluctant to identify a terrorist as a terrorist, preferring the term 'militant' ­ all the while assuring America that 'most of Islam is moderate and not all militants are terrorists.' Even a quick reading of my book, The Everlasting Hatred, the Roots of Jihad, would dispel that fantasy." - Hal Lindsey, "Survival Speak", January 2, 2003.

"An international fraternity of terrorists, with the Soviet Union as the chairman of the rush committee, has enabled the Russians to engage, as Senator Henry Jackson has put it, in "warfare by remote control" all over the world. Other members of the international club include North Korea, Cuba, South Yemen, East Germany, Libya, and the Palestinian Liberation Organization. Malcontents from all over the world are trained by them ­ in the arts of kidnapping, assassination, sabotage, bomb making, and insurrection, and then sent off to ply their trade. Their tutors are careful to keep them well supplied with weapons and to provide sanctuary when they need it." - Richard Nixon, The Real War, 1980.

"We must force America to fight on a hundred fronts all over the Earth. We must force it to fight in Lebanon, to fight in Chad, to fight in Sudan, and to fight in El Salvador." - Colonel Qadhafi, Dictator of Libya, 1985.

"We must take a stand against terrorism in the world and combat it with firmness, for it is a most cowardly and savage violation of peace. We must remember our heritage, who we are and what we are, and how this nation, this island of freedom, came into being." - Ronald Reagan, campaign speech in Chicago, August 1980.

"The American people are not--I repeat--not going to tolerate intimidation, terror, and outright acts of war against this nation and its people. And we're especially not going to tolerate these attacks from outlaw states run by the strangest collection of misfits, loony tunes, and squalid criminals since the advent of the Third Reich." - President Ronald Reagan, Remarks at the Annual Convention of the American Bar Association, July 8, 1985.

"When a boy becomes a martyr, thousands of people attend his funeral. Poor families become celebrities. 'Everyone treats them with more respect after they lose a son,' a martyr's father said. 'And when there is a martyr in the village, it encourages more children to join the Jihad. It raises the spirit of the entire village,' he continued." - Jessica Stern, Foreign Relations.

"You are not an enemy combatant, you are a terrorist. We hunt terrorists down and bring them to justice." ­ Federal District Court Judge William G. Young, statement upon sentencing al-Queda "shoe-bomb" terrorist Richard Reid, January 31, 2003.


Further Reading:

AL QAEDA TROLLS 'NET.

Bio-Chemical Weapons & Saddam: A History.

Confessions of a Terrorist.

How Militant Islamic Terrorists Entered and Remained in the United States.

Imam, two others held for attacking a Muslim-American Navy engineer on charges of blasphemy!

Islamic Nations Call for U.S. Out of Iraq.

Muslim Disinformation Campaign: Throwing dust in the eyes of the infidels.

Muslims Must Reform... Or Be Left Behind.

New Al-Qa'ida... Calls for Killing of Americans and Non-Muslims.

On John Muhammad (The D.C. Sniper): A Fifth-Column Foot soldier in War Against Infidel U.S.?

Saudi Arabia's naked emperor.

September 11th Archive.

Tales of Saddam's Brutality.

Tales of Saddam's Brutality (con't).

Terrorism, War, and Evil: Reflections on September 11.

Top Terrorist Hunter's Divisive Views.

TRAITORS! (Letter from US Marine in Iraq).

Translated Arabic Articles Based Upon Anti-Semitic Themes.

When a Suicide Bomber Fails.

Why Terrorism Works.


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Suspected Islamic militant confesses to plotting anti-U.S. terror attacks in Jordan

JAMAL HALABY, Associated Press Writer
Sunday, October 19, 2003

(10-19) 08:24 PDT AMMAN, Jordan (AP) --

A suspected Islamic militant confessed Sunday to being part of a conspiracy to attack Americans in Jordan, as well as the U.S. Embassy and Jordanian bases where the plotters believed U.S. troops were stationed.

Zuhair Shdeifat, 26, told the military court where he and nine other Jordanian militants are on trial that the plotters stockpiled grenades and rockets and raised funds last year "to defend Jordan's soil."

Shdeifat did not elaborate, but said another of the defendants, Amer Sarraj, 34, had wanted "us to carry out jihad (holy war) in Jordan by attacking American military bases in Jordan."

Unlike the other nine defendants, Shdeifat has pleaded guilty to conspiring to carry out terrorist attacks and possessing arms and explosives with the intent of using them illegally.

The offenses are punishable by death. It was unclear whether the military prosecution would seek a lighter sentence for Shdeifat for pleading guilty. Shdeifat was arrested Jan. 27, but freed eight days later in an apparent deal to turn him into a prosecution witness.

Three Saudi men charged in the plot remain at large.

Military prosecutor Lt. Col. Mahmoud Obeidat accused the Jordanians of receiving funds from Saudi Arabia via two of the Saudi fugitives. The investigation has not uncovered a strong link between the conspiracy and the al-Qaida terror group, security officials said on condition of anonymity.

Obeidat's 13-page indictment sheet accused a schoolteacher, Faisal Khalidi, 30, of masterminding the Jordanian side of the plot.

Standing the dock in smart casual clothes -- while his co-defendants wore dark blue prison uniforms -- Shdeifat said Sunday that he, Khalidi and two associates had allegedly devised plans to go to Afghanistan to fight American troops pursuing al-Qaida members.

When the plotters realized it was too difficult to enter Afghanistan, they changed plans and decided to attack U.S. targets in Jordan, Shdeifat said, confirming information in the indictment sheet.

Shdeifat said he and seven other conspirators in detention had bought 20 grenades and a rocket from Iraq to use in the attacks.

Obeidat's indictment says the militants chose to attack the U.S. Embassy in Amman and the military bases of Yajouz, Azraq, Jafr and al-Safawi -- desert towns along a 248-mile highway from Amman to the Iraqi border.

When they selected these bases in early 2002, the government denied there were any U.S. troops in Jordan.

Weeks before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq began in March, Jordan said it had allowed several hundred American soldiers to operate an air-defense system to protect the country from possible Iraqi missiles.

Jordan, a moderate Arab nation with close ties to America and a peace treaty with Israel, has been targeted by terrorists several times in recent years. Twenty-two extremists were convicted of plotting to attack U.S. and Israeli tourists during the kingdom's millennium celebrations.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/10/19/international1124EDT0465.DTL


61 posted on 10/19/2003 10:06:09 AM PDT by miltonim
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Two U.S. troops killed near Kirkuk

Other attackers strike U.S. truck near Fallujah, witnesses say


Iraqis from the restive town of Fallujah celebrate as a U.S. Army ammunition truck blazes. Witnesses said the vehicle had been hit with a rocket-propelled grenade in an ambush.

FALLUJAH, Iraq, Oct. 19 — Two U.S. soldiers were killed and one was wounded in an ambush north of Baghdad, the military reported Sunday, and insurgents attacked a convoy in this turbulent city west of the capital, setting off huge explosions in several vehicles.

YOUNG IRAQIS here cheered and danced with each explosion and motorists sounded their horns in an apparent celebration of the attack.

In a third incident, three apparent Iraqi attackers were also reported killed.

There were no reports of casualties in the Sunday morning attack against what appeared to be a U.S. ammunition truck here in Fallujah, 35 miles west of Baghdad in the “Sunni Triangle.”

Dozens of Iraqi youths cheered and danced in celebration as contents of the flaming vehicles continued to explode. Witnesses said U.S. troops came under subsequent attack with rocket-propelled grenades as they tried to approach the truck and withdrew.

U.S. troops and Iraqi police kept journalists away from the scene, but from a distance it appeared that three American vehicles, including at least one truck and one Humvee, were ablaze.

There were conflicting reports whether the attack in the eastern end of the city was triggered by a roadside bomb or by rocket-propelled grenades.

Saturday’s deaths came barely a day after four American soldiers were killed in a roadside explosion in Baghdad and a clash with Shiite Muslim gunmen in the southern shrine city of Karbala, on the deadliest day for the occupation force in a month.

Excerpted http://www.msnbc.com/news/870749.asp?0cv=CB10

62 posted on 10/19/2003 11:15:52 AM PDT by miltonim
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To: COBOL2Java
Prayers for your daughter!

Thank you. Prayers for your son as well. Hard to decide which of those destinations would be the worst.

63 posted on 10/19/2003 12:08:48 PM PDT by PsyOp ( Citizenship ought to be reserved for those who carry arms. - Aristotle.)
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He literally fears for his life, and fears his family most of all.

I pointed out numerous passages where the Koran demands this kind of behavior from it's followers. People have to understand that Islam is different from other religions. It demands utter loyalty to the religion itself above all things under pain of death.

If the laws of the state or community run counter to the Koran, they do not have to be obeyed.

As much as I love the First Amendment, it may well be our downfall if people don't wake up the the threat Islam poses in the subversion of our government and way of life. And it will never change.

64 posted on 10/19/2003 12:24:57 PM PDT by PsyOp ( Citizenship ought to be reserved for those who carry arms. - Aristotle.)
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Here is another Patton quote on his experience in North Africa.

"In the fields the plowing is done with the most peculiar combination of animals. The peasants either use a horse and camel, a burro and a camel, a bull and a camel, or a bull and a horse. I am informed that they cannot use two camels because they fight each other. Any animal hooked up with a camel becomes disgusted and loses interest in life." - General George S. Patton, Jr., Diary. November 22, 1942.

I suppose the same could be said of people and camels.
65 posted on 10/19/2003 3:00:01 PM PDT by PsyOp ( Citizenship ought to be reserved for those who carry arms. - Aristotle.)
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Bump for later read.
66 posted on 10/19/2003 6:13:50 PM PDT by tsomer
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Alija Izetbegovic, Muslim Who Led Bosnia, Dies at 78 (was Nazi, al-Qaeda and Shariah polygamist)
nytimes.com ^ | October 20, 2003 | DAVID BINDER
Posted on 10/20/2003 1:55 AM EDT by Destro
October 20, 2003

Alija Izetbegovic, the former Bosnian president whose dream of a Muslim-led independent Bosnia and Herzegovina was transformed by Balkan ethnic rivalries into a protracted war, died Sunday in Sarajevo. He was 78 years old.

The cause of death was heart disease complicated by injuries he suffered in a fall at home, The Associated Press said.

In a sense, he became the father of a republic that was the first Bosnian state since a short-lived medieval kingdom. But it was a profoundly divided country whose very creation in 1992 provoked a fierce internecine battle between Muslims, Serbs and Croats — wars in which some 200,000 people were killed and more than were one million driven from their homes. Even after the American-brokered Dayton peace accord ended 42 months of fighting late in 1995, Bosnia and Herzegovina remained a state administered largely as an international protectorate with few prospects for future unity.

Imprisoned for his Islamic convictions during Yugoslavia's Communist era, Mr. Izetbegovic (pronounced ih-zett-BEH-go-vitch) built a Muslim political organization in 1990, as the old Yugoslavia began to dissolve into a maelstrom of competing nationalisms. After winning elections late that year, Mr. Izetbegovic led his republic toward independence that was supported by the West but not by the Serbs who made up some one-third of the prewar population.

The Bosnian Serbs had repeatedly warned of war if Mr. Izetbegovic declared independence. Gambling that international recognition would provide protection, he declared independence on April 6, 1992.

A sense of mission clearly drove him. "I would sacrifice peace in order to win sovereignty for Bosnia," he said early in his presidency, "but for that peace in Bosnia, I would not sacrifice sovereignty."

But he overestimated the commitment of the West to an independent Bosnia and underestimated the determination of the Serbs.

The Bosnian Serbs, backed by Serbia itself, initially enjoyed superior firepower and laid siege to Sarajevo, shelling the city that had hosted the 1984 Winter Olympics for all three and a half years of the war.

The Serbs claimed they were battling "Islamic fundamentalism," although the Muslims of Bosnia were overwhelmingly a secular people. In his strong religious faith, Mr. Izetbegovic was the exception rather than the rule.

As the support of Serbia eroded and Mr. Izetbegovic's Muslim-dominated Bosnian Army improved, the three sides fought to an effective military stalemate. Ultimately, after a NATO bombing campaign against the Bosnian Serbs in the late summer of 1995, this balance became the basis for a peace settlement and the silencing of the guns.

By then, Bosnia was a shambles: a country divided along ethnic lines with less than a third of the territory under the control of Mr. Izetbegovic's government, its cities shattered and many of its smaller towns razed.

Alija Izetbegovic was born on Aug. 8, 1925, in Bosanski Samac, a town in northern Bosnia now under the control of Bosnian Serbs. His father was a bookkeeper. The family moved to Sarajevo in the 1930's. He grew up among the Slavic Muslims who already in the last decades of the 19th century had developed a strong sense of identity, even of nationhood.

During World War II, when Bosnia became part of the puppet-Nazi state of the Croatian Ustashe, Mr. Izetbegovic joined the Young Muslims, a group torn between siding with the German-sponsored Handzar divisions organized by the German SS or with the Yugoslav Communist partisans led by Josip Broz Tito. Mr. Izetbegovic supported the Handzars.

After Tito's Communist government was established in 1946, a military court sentenced Mr. Izetbegovic to three years in prison for his wartime activities. Once free, he earned a law degree at Sarajevo University and remained engaged in politics.

He is survived by his first wife, Halida, who lives in Turkey; a son, Bakir; two daughters, Leila Aksami and Sabina; his second wife, Melika; and his third wife, Amira, whom he married in 1993 under Shariah, the Islamic code of law. In February 1995, the newspaper Slobodna Bosna published congratulations to him on his fourth marriage, without naming the woman.

His major work, "Islam between East and West," published in 1980, was, by the author's definition, "not a book of theology" but an attempt to define the "place of Islam in the general spectrum of ideas." The book argues that "Islam is more than a religion."

But Mr. Izetbegovic became better known for a 1970 manifesto entitled "The Islamic Declaration" that was widely brandished during the Bosnian war by Serbs as "proof" that fundamentalism was about to engulf Bosnia and entrench itself in Europe.

Circulated among Bosnian Muslims, the declaration was seized upon by the Communist government in 1983 as grounds for Mr. Izetbegovic's arrest on charges of conspiring to create a Muslim state. Convicted with 12 others, he received a 14-year sentence but was released in 1988.

His two terms in prison appeared to imbue Mr. Izetbegovic with a patience and implacability that gave him the inner strength to endure a grueling war as the symbol of his beleaguered people. But his spells of other-worldliness also maddened many international interlocutors.

As Yugoslavia began to fall apart, Mr. Izetbegovic founded the Party of Democratic Action, a Muslim grouping which triumphed in Bosnia's first non-Communist elections because Muslims then had a plurality of about 40 percent in the republic.

At first, the ethnic parties formed a coalition with Mr. Izetbegovic as president. A Serb became speaker of Parliament and a Croat was named as prime minister. But tensions soon became overwhelming.

During the death throes of Yugoslavia, Mr. Izetbegovic often showed prudence. At one stage, he argued for a loose confederation that might preserve the state.

By January 1992, after Croatia and Slovenia had seceded and won international recognition, Mr. Izetbegovic's options had narrowed: either independence from Slobodan Milosevic's truncated Yugoslavia, with the risk of war, or a life within it that could become as intolerable for Bosnia's Muslims as it had become for Kosovo's ethnic Albanians.

Indecision gripped Mr. Izetbegovic, who had made scant preparation for war. On Feb. 23, in Lisbon, he signed, along with leaders of Bosnia's Croats and Serbs, a European-brokered agreement creating a confederal structure for the three Bosnian ethnic groups. A few days later, influenced by what he saw as an encouraging conversation with Warren Zimmermann, the United States ambassador, he changed his mind.

The Izetbegovic government then staged a countrywide referendum on the issue of Bosnian independence. Muslims and Croats endorsed independence by 99.4 percent while the Serbs boycotted a vote their leaders said was illegal.

Street fighting broke out in Sarajevo on April 5. The next day, the European Union recognized Bosnia, and the United States did so a day later. By then, the Serbs were already shelling Sarajevo, and a concerted campaign to drive Muslims from their homes along the Drina, Bosna and Sava rivers in eastern and northern Bosnia had begun.

Through the summer, Bosnian Serb forces seized 70 percent of the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina, expelling hundreds of thousands of Muslims. Many were herded into detention camps where men of fighting age were sometimes executed; women and children were pushed across the lines after suffering abuse and humiliation.

With neither the United States nor the European Union ready to go to war for the state they had recognized, Mr. Izetbegovic turned increasingly to Islamic states, including Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Libya, for assistance. Osama bin Laden visited him in Sarajevo in 1993 and sponsored some fighters from Arabic countries to fight on the Muslims' side in Bosnia, according to a report in the German magazine Der Spiegel.

Through more than three years of war, there were repeated international efforts to make peace. But Mr. Izetbegovic's resolve stiffened as his army grew stronger, and an American-brokered truce with the Croats in March 1994 helped him concentrate on battling the Serbs.

Determined to cut losses and establish contiguous territory in a war that was now going against them, Gen. Ratko Mladic's Bosnian Serb forces overran the eastern Muslim enclaves of Srebrenica and Zepa in the summer of 1995. The massacre of thousands of Muslims from Srebrenica by General Mladic's forces drew international condemnation and helped galvanize the United States and other Western powers into ending the war.

The ultimate determination of Mr. Milosevic to end the war and the defeat of Serb forces in Croatia also stiffened a new resolve within the Clinton administration and at NATO. Beginning on Aug. 30, 1995, American-led NATO forces hit the Serbs with air raids that turned the tide of the war.

Mr. Izetbegovic remained reluctant to the last to accept the division of Bosnia. By the terms of the Dayton accords, 51 percent of Bosnia went to the uneasy alliance of Muslims and Croats, while 49 percent went to a Serbian republic.

The nationalist leaders who signed the Dayton accords ending the violence were Mr. Izetbegovic; Franjo Tudjman, the Croatian president who died in 1999; and Mr. Milosevic, who is on trial at The Hague, accused of war crimes.

Mr. Izetbegovic continued to serve as president of Bosnia, though the position eventually became a three-person office. He stepped down in October 2000.

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Soldiers’ Weapons Were Stolen by Terrorists
Israel National News ^ | 06:38 Oct 20, '03 / 24 Tishrei 5764
Posted on 10/20/2003 1:14 AM EDT by yonif

(IsraelNN.com) After killing the three IDF soldiers and seriously wounded a fourth in last night’s attack, the al-Aqsa Brigade terrorists took the soldiers’ weapons and fled in a Fiat Uno. The vehicle was recovered later in the night.

Major-General Moshe Kaplinski stated the IDF has an idea where the terrorists responsible for the attack are hiding and they would be apprehended.

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Militant Islamic leader nabbed in Mindanao island
Straits Times ^
Posted on 10/19/2003 7:50 PM EDT by DeaconBenjamin

MANILA - Militant Islamic group Jemaah Islamiah's No 3 leader, Taufik Rifqi, has been captured in Cotabato city on the southern Philippine island of Mindanao.

Security officials announced their coup just hours before US President George W. Bush arrived in Manila on Saturday for talks with Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo on boosting cooperation in their war against terrorism.

Taufik's group has been blamed for last year's bombings on the Indonesian resort island of Bali and is accused of links with Osama bin Laden's Al-Qaeda network.

Taufik was apparently establishing links with other Muslim militants in Cotabato, where the military is battling rebel groups fighting for an Islamic state.

Intelligence reports suggested he was Jemaah Islamiah's second-in-command in the Philippines, a security spokesman said.

JI's top operative in the Philippines, bomb expert Fathur Rohman al-Ghozi, was killed in what police said was a shootout near Cotabato less than a week ago.

His death came three months after he escaped from a police maximum-security compound in Manila.

Mr Bush praised the Philippines at the weekend as a major partner in the war on terrorism and pledged more aid to help the country fight Muslim militants.

US troops have been training Philippine soldiers in counter-terrorism measures since last year.

Meanwhile, in Manila yesterday, Brigadier-General Victor Corpus said the armed wing of the Communist Party of the Philippines was planning attacks on civilians suspected of being informers.

Peace talks with the communists have been stalled since 2001 but both sides continue informal discussions.

The insurgents are demanding the party and its armed wing, the New People's Army, be taken off a US list of terror organisations as a condition for resuming negotiations to end more than 30 years of rebellion to establish a Marxist state.

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Religious killings on the rise in Pakistan despite crackdown [Sunni v. Shia]
Straits Times ^
Posted on 10/19/2003 7:45 PM EDT by DeaconBenjamin

Killings among rival Sunnis and Shi'ites have left 76 dead, casting doubts over anti-militant drive

ISLAMABAD - The resurgence of killings among the rival Sunni and Shi'ite sects of Islam, climaxing with the murder of Sunni icon Azam Tariq, has underscored long-held doubts about the direction of Pakistan's crackdown on Islamic militancy, analysts say.

Tariq's death 'was the most foretold in Pakistan', the Daily Times newspaper said, questioning how one of the most high-profile sectarian leaders could be gunned down in broad daylight as he entered the nation's capital.

To date, no one has been arrested for the Oct 6 killing, the most high-profile of at least 76 Shi'ite and Sunni deaths this year.

President Pervez Musharraf has carried out an official crackdown on Muslim extremists, a hallmark of his rule.

In January last year, four months into his role as one of the war on terror's most important allies, General Musharraf outlawed five Islamic militant groups and ordered the arrest of up to 2,000 of their followers.

Most of their leaders were already behind bars, locked up ahead of the United States' bombardment of Afghanistan in October 2001, to stave off a feared violent backlash.

Almost two years on, at least four of the outlawed organisations are operating under new names and their leaders are out of jail.

Tariq went straight from his prison cell to a seat in the federal Parliament despite his violent Sunni organisation Sipah-e-Sahaba being among those outlawed in January last year, and despite the 17 Shi'ite murder cases he was charged with.

Six months before his assassination, Tariq had set up a new organisation, Millat-e-Islamia, with similar office-holders to the banned Sipah-e-Sahaba. It was a familiar pattern.

Jaish-e-Mohammad, one of the most militant groups fighting Indian rule in Kashmir, has been renamed Jamaat-ul Furqan under its leader Masood Azhar, who was released from jail last December.

Another Kashmir-focused group, Lashkar-e-Taiba, has reverted to the name of its political wing, Jamaat-ud Dawa.

Lashkar's founder Hafiz Saeed was freed from prison late last year.

He now travels the country preaching jihad against India.

The Shi'ite extremist group Tehreek-i-Jafria renamed itself Islami Tehreek.

Some analysts say Gen Musharraf is seeking to keep both militants and the West happy.

'It is a strategy,' said an Islamabad-based Western analyst.

'By banning these groups he can keep the Americans happy, and at the same time these groups can re-name themselves and keep operating untouched at a lower profile, and the government gets to keep the proxy tools of its foreign policy,' he said, referring to rebels fighting Indian forces in disputed Kashmir.

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New Al-Qa'ida Online Magazine: Interview with a 'Most-Wanted' Saudi Islamist-Kill Americans
MEMRI ^ | 10-18-03
Posted on 10/19/2003 7:11 PM EDT by SJackson
Special Dispatch Series - No. 591
October 17, 2003
New Al-Qa'ida Online Magazine Features Interview with a 'Most-Wanted' Saudi Islamist, Calls for Killing of Americans and Non-Muslims

Supporters of the Al-Qa'ida organization in Saudi Arabia launched a new on-line magazine, " The Voice of Jihad." The magazine was described as a "bimonthly dealing with Jihad and the Mujahideen in the Arabian Peninsula." The following are excerpts from the first issue: [1]


Why is Jihad Necessary in Saudi Arabia? - An Editorial

The editorial of the first issue of " The Voice of Jihad" was penned by "Jihad warrior Suleiman Al-Dosari, " who wrote: "A tremendous obligation has been entrusted upon us – Jihad for the sake of Allah… Allah has imposed the obligation of Jihad in [several] cases, all of which exist in this generation: starting from repelling the aggression of the infidels, through fighting the apostates, supporting the oppressed, and liberating captives and prisoners. It includes voluntary Jihad, [that is] fighting the infidels so that they will pay the Jizya [poll tax paid by non-Muslims living under Muslim rule], with humiliation, into the hands of [the Muslim rulers]. All these are commandments that apply to every Muslim individually, or obligations that apply collectively. But as long as they are not carried out by a large enough number of Muslims, they are commandments that apply individually…

"One of the greatest places in which Jihad is a commandment applying to each Muslim individually is the land of the two holy places [i.e. the Arabian Peninsula]. In this land there is the occupying Crusader enemy who steals the land's treasures, determines its policy, and sets out from it to make war on the Muslims. It also has an apostate agent government, and it implements the plans of colonialism, supports the infidels, and rules by a law that is not the law of Allah… Its prisons hold the oppressed who are subjected to insufferable tortures, and in it there are aggression and curses against Allah, insult to the religion, and contempt for the believers, [and all this] under the protection and patronage of the family of Saud, whose members simultaneously silence the reformists [the opponents of the regime demanding 'reform' towards a more fundamentalist state] as well as those who call for virtue, and jail those who call on them to impose the law of Allah.

"It is amazing that many Jihad youths turn to other arenas and abandon this great arena and the [mission of the] liberation of the pure land [namely Saudi Arabia] from the defilement of the Crusaders and their lackeys, even though this land is the worthy land for Jihad that requires purification and liberation more than any other land.

"There are many reasons for this [amazing phenomenon], among them… the cruel attack led by those who abandoned [the Jihad movement] who tremble in fear [the clerics who support the Saudi regime] and who find nothing wrong with their land being occupied by American female soldiers…"

Kill Americans Whose Blood is 'Like the Blood of a Dog' - An Article

The magazine featured an article by Sheikh Nasser Al-Najdi, who wrote: "…Dogs, like other animals, are not assigned [religious] missions and commandments, and [religious prohibitions] are not forbidden them; they were created according to a particular nature, and they do not deviate from their nature. They are different from the infidel, who was created by Allah in order to worship Him and in order to believe in His monotheism, but who denied Him, and took other gods beside Him.

"Anyone who is satisfied with what is said above concludes that the heresy of that infidel and his rebellion against the religion of Allah requires the permitting of his blood and [sanctions] his humiliation, and that his blood is like the blood of a dog and nothing more.

"What is said above is sufficient to cause the monotheist… to burn with desire for the blood of the infidel, to slaughter the enemy of Allah, and to cut him up into pieces. This is not strange at all. If a believer would not be willing to stand the sight of someone walking on the earth whom he had heard cursing his father or harming his honor, then how much more so when someone curses his God, Whom he loves more than the love he feels for his beloved. How [will he stand it] while Allah permits him [to kill the infidel] and he knows that killing this man, as far as Allah is concerned, is like killing a dog?…

"My Jihad-fighting brother, don't you want Paradise? Don't you want to protect yourself from Hell?… Kill the polytheist, kill the one whose blood is like the blood of a dog, kill the one whom Allah ordered you to kill and whom the Prophet of Allah [Muhammad] incited you against. Have you not seen him, whose blood is like the blood of a dog, cursing your religion and taking your sister captive? Have you not seen him, whose blood is like the blood of a dog, occupying the lands of the Muslims, controlling the land of the two holy places, and leading colonialism in Mecca and Al-Madina? The one whose blood is like the blood of a dog that ignored all the nations of the world and chose the Muslims, to make them weep and make the world laugh at them. The one whose blood is like the blood of a dog has introduced his treacherous agents to [rule] over the loyal faithful clerics…

"Bush, the son of Bush, is a dog and the son of a dog; his blood is the blood of a dog; his bark is the bark of a dog; and he has all the traits of a dog except for loyalty. Thus, he is a hyena… [Saudi Interior Minister] Nayef Ibn Abd-Al-Aziz may Allah fight him, has no brains, honor, shame, religion, manhood, morality, or credibility…"

More Articles: The U.S. is the Most Abhorrent Enemy in the History of Islam

The magazine's first issue features numerous articles, including one by Qeis bin Habira that calls on "Jihad warriors for the sake of Allah on the Islamic frontier in Hindu-Kush, Tora Bora, Jenin, Gaza, Grozny, and the land of the two holy places" to wage Jihad. The article concludes with the blessing, "See you in Paradise."

Also featured is a poem cursing Arab rulers, and a translation of "the important excerpts" from an undated and un-attributed New Yorker article on the National Security Agency; the "Voice of Jihad" titled this article "Saudi Arabia As Seen by the U.S."

In addition, the magazine quotes Sheikh Nasser Al-Fahd, who was arrested in Saudi Arabia after expressing support for the May 2003 Riyadh bombings: "I examined at length the history of Islam; I turned its pages; and I looked at the enemies of Islam, their wars against it, the Crusaders, and the idol-worshipers, in the East and the West, over more than 10 generations – and I found no enemy more hostile and abhorrent than America."

The magazine posted a review of Sheikh Abdallah Azzam's book " The Virtues of Jihad Granted to the Slaves of Allah," and published a chapter from Sheikh Ayman Al-Zawahiri 'sbook " Knights Under the Banner of the Prophet" that tells of 'Issam Al-Qamari, a leader of the Egyptian Jihad organization who was killed in 1988 after escaping from an Egyptian prison.

The magazine also offers its readers an article by Abu Abdallah Al-Sa 'di which argues againstthe claim that bombing is not a legitimate way of bringing about political change.

Biography Excerpt: Al-Qa'ida Leader Sheikh Al-'Ayyiri

The magazine includes part of a biography of Sheikh Yousef Al-'Ayyiri, an Al-Qa'ida leader in Saudi Arabia who was on Saudi authorities' list of 19 most-wanted Islamists which was issued a few days before the Riyadh bombings. Sheikh Al-'Ayyiri managed the Al-Qa'ida website until he was killed by Saudi security forces in June 2003. His biography says that he served as Osama bin Laden's personal bodyguard in Afghanistan and then in Sudan until he returned to Saudi Arabia and was arrested following the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing.

Upon his return from Sudan to Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Salman Al-'Odeh told him, "I am proud to be one of the soldiers of Abu Abdallah [bin Laden]." However, when a wealthy Saudi demanded that Al-'Ayyiri bring him a letter from Sheikh Al-'Odeh as a condition for donating 8 million Saudi riyals to Khattab, the commander of the Jihad in Chechnya, Al-'Odeh refused, saying: "I do not believe in the Chechnya matter."

Sheikh Al-'Ayyiri was close to Khattab, and after he was released from the Saudi prison he wrote several essays for the "Voice of the Caucasus" website, among them "A Guide to the Perplexed on the Captives," "Martyrdom Operations: Suicide or Shahada?" and other political articles, the most recent of which was "The Moscow Theater Operation and Its Benefits for the Mujahideen." The second part of Al-'Ayyiri's biography will appear in the next issue.

Interview with a 'Most-Wanted' Islamist Leader

The magazine published an interview with Abd Al-'Aziz bin 'Issa bin Abd Al-Mohsen, also known as Abu Hajjer, another of the Saudi authorities' 19 most-wanted Islamists. In the interview, Abu Hajjer, a Riyadh native, tells of how he was recruited:

"Thirteen years ago, we all used to hear about the events in Afghanistan. In the mosques they talked [about it], with the support of the government, and so did the preachers on television. Jihad was approved of in those days, and the government reduced [airplane] ticket prices [to Pakistan]. We had relatives, neighbors, and friends who went to the land of Jihad, and in the calls to prayer you would always hear news of the brothers and of the heroic deeds of the Jihad warriors in the Afghan land.

"The truth is that [our] souls longed to be with the Jihad warriors, but there were obstacles. Like today, some clerics did not think that the Jihad is a commandment applying individually to every Muslim, and that the individual must go out to Jihad [even] without his parents' permission. Obviously, we tried to persuade everyone, but all attempts failed. Then, one sheikh gave me a Fatwa that said that going out to prepare [for Jihad] is a commandment that applies to every Muslim, and there is no need to ask permission to do so from parents, and so I went to the land of the Jihad…"

Abu Hajjer then tells of the battles he fought in Afghanistan: "Afterwards, I joined the brothers in Algeria. I was in the supply team and our mission was to transfer weapons and equipment from Europe to Morocco and from there to Algeria. I remained there for months, until most of the members of that squad were imprisoned, and six of them were killed… Afterwards I participated [in Jihad] in Bosnia-Herzegovina… [and from there] I continued on to Yemen, and from Yemen to Somalia and Ogadin, a region of the Somali land occupied by the Ethiopian Crusader state that is acting to convert the Somali Muslims to Christianity.

"I saw with my own eyes the churches in this region, although 100 percent of the Somalis are Muslims subject to cruel attack... I joined my brothers in the Somali Islamic Union, and there was a lengthy affair that ended in my imprisonment for a period of two years and seven months, at the end of which I was extradited to the tyrants in the land of the two holy places and was jailed for a time. A month after my release, I traveled to Afghanistan and participated together with the brothers in training and fighting against the Americans.

"Today, Allah be praised, I am [in Saudi Arabia] at the front that we sought to purify and liberate from the defilement of the treacherous rulers and, even before them, from the defilement of the American Crusaders and their allies… [In contrast to the rumors] I did not go to Iraq. I swore to purify the Arabian Peninsula from the polytheists. We were born in this land and we will fight in it against the Crusaders and against the Jews until we expel them or until we taste what Hamza bin Abd Al-Mutaleb tasted [i.e. Shahada]…

I received many offers from sheikhs… [to go to Iraq]. Unfortunately, what they wanted was to get us out of the Arabian Peninsula… True, Iraq is a front, and, Allah be praised, we are investing efforts in it… It is a front that we want to utilize for fighting the Americans, like the other fronts [of Jihad]… To all those who suggested that I [go to Iraq] I say, 'Forget it.' You must think also about the conflict with these infidels [in Saudi Arabia]."

The interview will continue in the next issue, in which Abu Hajjer will talk about "his connection with Sheikh Osama bin Laden, give advice to the wanted men in the land of the two holy places, talk about Jihad in the Arabian Peninsula, and more."

The magazine also published the first of a three-part series by Mus 'eb Al-Sahli, "Sorcery and Jihad Warriors," in which he tells of Jihad warriors who feared that they would be harmed by sorcery and explains how to guard against Satan and his messengers.

The last article, by Sheikh Abdallah bin Nasser Al-Rashid, addresses the question of whether it is permitted to call someone who is killed in Jihad a Shahid. After a final paean to Jihad, the magazine asks its readers not to wait for the next issue, but to go out and fulfill the commandment of Jihad.

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Spain links Syrian cabal to Sept. 11 plot--Prosecutors follow the money trail
Chicago Tribune ^ | October 19, 2003 | John Crewdson, Drew Crosby
Posted on 10/19/2003 7:03 PM EDT by SJackson

By John Crewdson, Tribune senior correspondent. Reporting and research assistance was provided by Drew Crosby in Madrid

MADRID -- The most sweeping criminal indictment to arise thus far from the Sept. 11 attacks reflects a quiet but dramatic change in understanding by investigators here and across Europe of the terrorist organization known as Al Qaeda, and the international Islamic radical-terrorist network of which, they now agree, it is merely a part.

As laid out in the indictment, the defendants' alleged activities--from arranging travel and providing introductions to procuring false documents and, especially, moving money--provide the first detailed look at one of Al Qaeda's most potent weapons: the ability to call on networks of sympathizers whose collective numbers are far greater than Al Qaeda's few hundred card-carrying members.

Not one of the dozen key defendants named here last month as members or supporters of an alleged Madrid-based cell accused of working for Al Qaeda and helping advance the Sept. 11 plot is a native of Spain, or even nearby Muslim North Africa.

Instead, all migrated to Spain from Syria, where--according to the Spanish indictment--most became affiliated with an ultramilitant Islamic group called the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood.

Virtually from the moment of the Sept. 11 attacks, investigators in Europe and the U.S. were perplexed by what appeared to be a Syrian connection to the hijackings, both here and in Hamburg, Germany, whose university campuses produced three of the four Sept. 11 pilots and several accused or convicted accomplices.

At first, some questioned whether the Syrian government had perhaps known of the plot, or even whether Syrian intelligence had somehow been involved. Neither now appears to be true, investigators say, citing Syria's limited but useful cooperation with Western intelligence agencies attempting to unravel the connection between Sept. 11, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood.

One senior German intelligence official described the Muslim Brotherhood as "one part of the intelligence network of the mujahedeen." The Brothers, the official said, are not an extension of Al Qaeda but affiliated with it in the same way as Indonesia's Jemaah Islamiyah, which reportedly financed last year's Bali nightclub bombings with $30,000 provided by Al Qaeda, or a Salafist group in Morocco that allegedly used $50,000 in Al Qaeda money to pay for five suicide bombings in Casablanca earlier this year.

When Al Qaeda first appeared on the terrorist scene in the early 1990s, the Muslim Brotherhood was already well-established. It was 70 years ago last year that the Syrian Brotherhood, an offshoot of the even older Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, first dedicated itself to the overthrow of Syria's secular government.

In 1982, the Syrian army struck in an attempt to wipe out the organization, killing 5,000 to 10,000 Muslim Brothers in the Syrian city of Hama.

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Don't Rely on the Media: Palestinian Authority violence against Americans.

Daniel Pipes’ Weblog ^ | October 18, 2003 | Daniel Pipes
Posted on 10/19/2003 7:02 PM EDT by quidnunc

Is there any subject that the mainstream media treats worse than the Palestinian Authority (PA)? Case in point: placing the Oct. 15 murder of three American security personnel in Gaza. Here is USA Today's comment, representative of media assessments of the topic: "the killings reflected a potentially dangerous new escalation in a conflict that for the past half-century has largely treated U.S. officials as bystanders. Terrorist Palestinian groups have generally avoided attacks on U.S. officials."

To find out the real situation, one has to go to such sources at the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), Palestinian Media Watch, and The Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

CAMERA's Eric Rozenman points to a long history of the PLO targeting American officials (Ambassador to Sudan Cleo A. Noel Jr. and his colleague George C. Moore in March 1973; U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Frances E. Meloy and his colleague Robert O. Waring in January 1977). It notes that approximately 103 American citizens have been killed by Palestinian terrorists in Israel and the disputed territories since 1968; and at least 39 Americans have been murdered in the past three years. CAMERA concludes that "reports stating that the three security guards murdered on October 15 are the first Americans killed by Palestinian terrorists, either following September 29, 2000, or before, are simply wrong."

Palestinian Media Watch's Itamar Marcus argues that "In its English statements, the PA presents itself as an American ally, while its Arabic messages incite its people to hate and kill Americans," then documents this statement with a list of hair-raising quotes, calling on Saddam Hussein to kill American soldiers, threats against Americans, and promises that the United States will be destroyed. PMW concludes that the American security personnel were murdered "by Palestinians fulfilling their role in their war against Americans, as they have been taught by their leaders, through years of hate-mongering and calls for violence against Americans."

The Washington Institute for Near East Policy's Matthew Levitt provides extensive background in his "Terrorist Attacks against Western Officials in Gaza, The West Bank, and Israel." He quotes Palestinian threats (an al-Aqsa Brigades leader: "Now, American targets are the same as Israeli targets"), points to U.S. government expectations of such attacks (George Tenet in February 2002: if Palestinian groups "feel that U.S. actions are threatening their existence, they may begin targeting Americans directly"), and recalls Palestinian attacks on other Western personnel (Canadian and Danish, in particular). He concludes that the Oct. 15 incident was "neither unprecedented nor unexpected."

Unfortunately, this means that if you read just the newspaper — never mind only watching television — you basically don't know the score on an issue as complex and historical fraught as Palestinian violence against Americans. To be well informed requires reading the work of think tanks and advocacy organizations.

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73 posted on 10/20/2003 12:31:38 AM PDT by miltonim
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During the program a man, a Muslim, called in to the show to accuse O'Reilly of being unfair and taking things out of context, etc. He then said that you need to have an Imam explain these passages to you so you can understand their meaning. This of course means one of several things. The first possible meaning is that the average person is too stupid understand the Koran without help. Another is that Mohammed chose not to speak plainly and clearly when relating Allah's word for one reason or another. Or, possibly, that the Imam's tell their followers this so that they may remain in control of the religion, and interpret it as they please without fear of contradiction.

Sheesh. Lousy, fabricated, dishonest, excuse.

"You need to have an Imam explain these passages to you so you can understand their meaning"

What an incredibly deceitful bibliographic hermeneutic. Frickin' Moslems.

I won't say it if you won't. I won't say it if you won't. I won't say it if you won't. I won't say it if you won't. I won't say it if you won't. I won't say it if you won't. I won't say it if you won't. I won't say it if you won't. I won't say it if you won't. I won't say it if you won't. I won't say it if you won't. I won't say it if you won't. I won't say it if you won't. shhhh......

74 posted on 10/20/2003 12:40:27 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty)
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'Saddam' Letter Urges Jihad

AFP ^ | 10-19-03

Posted on 10/19/2003 5:50 PM EDT by Brian S

October 20, 2003

A LETTER purportedly written by ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, and which emerged today, urges tribal leaders to launch a jihad, or holy war, against "the hated invaders" and those who cooperate with them.

"I urge you to help your brothers in the resistance. Call the sons of your tribes to the jihad because the day of salvation is near," the message, obtained by AFP, said.

The letter, dated October 9 and bearing Saddam's signature, was distributed on October 13 to about 20 people in Saddam's stronghold of Tikrit - a flashpoint of anti-US violence - according to people who call themselves "men of Saddam Hussein".

It was not clear whether Saddam's signature on the note was authentic.

The message praised those who struck at the "invader", a reference to US-led coalition troops who ousted him from power.

"Your strikes, which they did not expect, hurt them. Their demons made them believe Iraq would be just a mouthful. To the contrary, it has been poison for them."

"Victory is near," the note said, urging tribal chiefs to unite.

"Strike with an iron fist any person ... who serves the hated invader," it said.

He also urged the tribal chiefs to stage a peaceful protest on October 15 to denounce the US military occupation.

On that day, several people fired shots in the air in Baghdad to mark the anniversary of a pro-Saddam referendum, and one person was wounded in Baqubah, 60km north-east of the capital, when Iraqi police fired shots to disperse a similar demonstration.

The message closes by stating: "God is Great. Long live Iraq. Long live Arab and free Palestine."

The typewritten letter bears the Iraqi presidential seal.

US troops have been searching for the former dictator since they seized Baghdad on April 9.

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75 posted on 10/20/2003 12:42:02 AM PDT by miltonim
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Laden hands over mantle of terror to son: Report

Times of India ^ | 10-19-03
Posted on 10/19/2003 4:57 PM EDT by Brian S

PTI[ SUNDAY, OCTOBER 19, 2003 08:06:03 PM ]

LONDON: Terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden has appointed his eldest son 26-year-old Saad Bin Laden as his successor and ordered him to attack British and US targets, a report quoting his latest audio tape said on Sunday.

The tape purportedly from the al-Qaeda leader on Saturday promised more suicide attacks inside and outside United States and other countries that supported the Iraq war and demanded the Americans to quit Iraq.

The news that Osama bin Laden had named son Saad as his successor forced British Intelligence Agency Mi5 Chief Eliza Manningham-Buller to warn that al-Qaeda was now stronger than ever, 'The Sunday Express' reported.

Bin Laden's decision to hand over the operations of al-Qaeda is seen as an indication that he is ill, the paper said.

Saad has been linked to last week's killing of Americans in Gaza. For the past one year, he has been based in Iran.

Laden, in his latest audio tape said, "We, God willing, will continue to fight you (US) and will continue martyrdom operations inside and outside the United States until you abandon your oppression and foolish acts."

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76 posted on 10/20/2003 12:46:09 AM PDT by miltonim
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Eight Qassam missiles fall in Negev

Jerusalem Post ^ | Oct. 19, 2003 | JPOST.COM STAFF
Posted on 10/19/2003 2:46 PM EDT by yonif

Palestinians fired eight Qassam missiles into the Negev on Sunday, media sources report.

Three missiles landed in an open space within the town's residential area.

There were no injuries and no damage was sustained.

Two missiles on kibbutz land in the area, and two nearby. The missiles were apparently launched from Beit Hanoun in the northern Gaza Strip.

Sderot residents were requested to remain in their homes in case more missiles were fired.

Five reservist batallions will be deployed in the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the framework of a limited mobilization of reservists who received call up notices during the Succot week as part of an effort to beef up the security presence in the Territories due to the ongoing violence.

Earlier in the month, Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz paved the way for a limited call up of reservists and cancelled all IDF training and officers courses due to the increase in the number of alerts received by the security establishment of plans by terrorists to perpetrate attacls.

Mofaz handed over the sole authorization of calling up reservists and cancelling training courses to Chief of General Staff Lt.Gen. Moshe Ya'alon who judging on operational requirements makes the necessary decisions.

(With Margot Dudkevitch)

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77 posted on 10/20/2003 12:56:28 AM PDT by miltonim
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Three Israelis Murdered in Shomron Terror Attack

Israel National News ^ | 20:14 Oct 19, '03 / 23 Tishrei 5764
Posted on 10/19/2003 2:36 PM EDT by yonif

(Sunday 19 October 20:00) Three Israelis were murdered by terrorist gunfire in the Shomron shortly before 19:00 tonight. The terror attack occurred near Ein Yabrud, an Arab village located [northeast of Ramallah] in proximity to the Shomron community of Ofrah. According to the preliminary information available, the Ofrah paramedic ambulance was informed of the attack at 19:00, immediately responding to the location a short distance away. It remains unclear at this time but reports indicate the initial response may have been delayed due to ongoing gunfire.

An army report indicates that in addition to the gunfire, a bomb may have been hurled at the victims. This has not yet been confirmed.

In addition to the Ofrah MDA bullet-resistant ambulance, a bullet resistant military ambulance with a physician on board was also dispatched to the scene. The medical team was unable to resuscitate three of the victims who were pronounced dead on the scene. A fourth victim was transported in the Ofrah paramedic ambulance to the trauma unit of Jerusalem’s Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital. There are also reports of an unspecified number of persons who sustained light injuries.

The site of the latest Arab terror attack is the same location where Ofrah resident 30-year-old Assaf Hirschkovitz was murdered on May 1, 2001, between the junction to Beit El and his home community of Ofrah.

Hadassah trauma unit officials report the victim has arrived and appears in moderate condition. The army has imposed a curfew on Ein Yabrud. A manhunt for the terrorists is ongoing. Helicopters have been deployed. The Ofrah first response team remains deployed awaiting further instructions from the army.

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78 posted on 10/20/2003 1:01:01 AM PDT by miltonim
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Some 12,000 Koranic schools provide free room and board to some 700,000 Pakistani boys (ages 6 to 16) where they are taught to read and write in Urdu and Arabic and recite the Koran by heart. No other disciplines are practiced, but students are proselytized with anti-American, anti-Israeli and anti-Indian propaganda. By the time they graduate, the majority is convinced that becoming a jihadi, or holy warrior, is the only way to block America's alleged plans to destroy Islam.

Pakistan-Saudi trade nuke tech for oil

79 posted on 10/20/2003 1:21:23 PM PDT by PsyOp ( Citizenship ought to be reserved for those who carry arms. - Aristotle.)
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Islam is dying. In its death throes, it has turned not just on its perceived enemies, the modern world, but upon itself, killing with seeming indifference both Muslim and non-Muslim as it thrashes about, filling each day with new corpses, the last of which will be its own.

The Decline and Fall of Islam

80 posted on 10/20/2003 2:29:27 PM PDT by PsyOp ( Citizenship ought to be reserved for those who carry arms. - Aristotle.)
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