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Mohammed, The Mad Poet Quoted....
The Koran | 10-17-03 | PsyOp

Posted on 10/17/2003 11:58:54 PM PDT by PsyOp

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To: PsyOp
Jews Rule The World (Do They?)
USA TODAY ^ | Updated 10/16/2003 10:41 AM | USA TODAY

Posted on 10/18/2003 10:34 AM EDT by GirlyGirl2003

 

USA TODAY

 

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Malaysian PM urges Muslims to unite against 'Jewish domination'
PUTRAJAYA, Malaysia (AP) — Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad on Thursday told a summit of Islamic leaders that "Jews rule the world by proxy" and the world's 1.3 billion Muslims should unite, using nonviolent means for a "final victory."

His speech at the Organization of the Islamic Conference summit, which he was hosting, drew criticism from Jewish leaders, who warned it could spark more violence against Jews.

Mahathir ; known for his outspoken, anti-Western rhetoric ; criticized what he described as Jewish domination of the world and Muslim nations' inability to adequately respond to it.

  Excerpts from speech

"The Europeans killed 6 million Jews out of 12 million, but today the Jews rule the world by proxy," Mahathir said, opening the meeting of Islamic leaders from 57 nations. "They get others to fight and die for them."

Malaysia, a democratic nation which has a large non-Muslim population and does not enforce strict Islamic law, has long been a critic of Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories and of U.S. policy in the Middle East, including the war in Iraq and Washington's strong backing of the Jewish state.

Mahathir, 77, who is retiring on Oct. 31, has used almost every international podium to lambaste the West for two decades, winning a reputation as an outspoken champion of Third World causes.

"For well over half a century we have fought over Palestine. What have we achieved? Nothing. We are worse off than before," he said. "If we had paused to think, then we could have devised a plan, a strategy that can win us final victory."

The prime minister, who has turned his country into the world's 17th-ranked trading nation during his 22 years in power, said Jews "invented socialism, communism, human rights and democracy" to avoid persecution and gain control of the most powerful countries.

Mahathir added that "1.3 billion Muslims cannot be defeated by a few million Jews," but he suggested using political and economic tactics instead of violence.

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Jonathan Peled expressed disappointment in the remarks but said he wasn't surprised.

"It is not new that in such forums there is always an attempt to reach the lowest common denominator, which is Israel bashing," he said in Jerusalem. "But obviously we'd like to see more moderate and responsible kind of declarations coming out of such summits."

Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, said Mahathir has used anti-Israel statements in the past to prove he's tough on the West. But, he said, Thursday's speech was still worrisome.

"What is profoundly shocking and worrying is the venue of the speech, the audience and coming in the time we're living in," Cooper said during a visit to Jerusalem. "Mahathir's speech today is an absolute invitation for more hate crimes and terrorism against Jews. That's serious."

U.S. Ambassador to Malaysia Marie Huhtala declined to comment on Mahathir's speech. Washington was angered over a speech he made in February, as host of the Non-Aligned Movement of 117 countries, in which he described the looming war against Iraq as racist.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai said he supported Mahathir's analysis, which also included steps for how Muslim nations can develop economically and socially.

"It is great to hear Prime Minister Mahathir speak so eloquently on the problems of the ummah (Muslim world) and ways to remedy them," Karzai said. "His speech was an eye-opener to a lot of us and that is what the Islamic world should do."

The summit is the first since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks reshaped global politics and comes at a time when many Muslims ; even U.S. allies ; feel the war on terrorism has become a war against them.

"It is well known that the Islamic community is being targeted today more than at any other time before in its creed, culture and social and political orientation," said Qatar's ruler, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, who hosted the U.S. headquarters in the Iraq war.

The status of Iraq also proved a divisive issue. Malaysia resisted inviting the U.S.-picked Iraqi Governing Council, describing it as a puppet of American occupation. But Arab countries that have recognized the interim body prevailed and council representatives were attending the summit.

Leaders attending the summit included Jordan's King Abullah, Syrian President Bashar Assad, Morocco's King Mohammed VI, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo are attending as special observers because of their large Muslim minorities.


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41 posted on 10/18/2003 12:05:07 PM PDT by miltonim
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To: PsyOp

This here's the story of Cassius Clay
Who changed his name to Muhammad Ali
He knows how to talk and he knows how to fight
And all the contenders were beat out of sight

Sing, Muhammad, Muhammad Ali
He floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee
Mohammed, the black superman
Who calls to the other guy I'm Ali catch me if you can

Now all you fight fans, you've got to agree
There ain't no flies on Muhammad Ali
He fills the arena wherever he goes
And everyone gets what they paid for

Muhammad, was known to have said
You watch me shuffle and I'll jab off your head
He moves like the black superman
And calls to the other guy I'm Ali catch me if you can

He says I'm the greatest the worlds ever seen
The heavyweight champion who came back again
My face is so pretty you don't see a scar
Which proves I'm the king of the ring by far

Sing, Muhammad, Muhammad Ali
He floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee
Mohammed, the black superman
Who calls to the other guy I'm Ali catch me if you can

Sing, Muhammad, Muhammad Ali
He floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee
Muhammad, the black superman
Who calls to the other guy I'm Ali catch me if you can

I'm Ali catch me if you can

Black Superman-Muhammad Ali
Johnny Wakelin & The Kinshasa Band


42 posted on 10/18/2003 12:09:36 PM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: teldon30
At War With EVIL (FReeper GaryMontana)
Free Republic | 10-14-2002 | GaryMontana

Posted on 10/14/2002 2:09 AM EDT by blam

At War With EVIL

What did we (in America) learn from September 11, 2001 and the deaths of 3,000 people. I am tempted to admit: Absolutely nothing.

Among the many unlearned lessons of Day-Which-Will-Live-In-Infamy-II-- the necessity to control our borders, the need for a patriotic renewal and the importance of combating multiculturalism -- the most significant is the nature of Islam. You will note that I do not say militant Islam, or radical Islam, or Islamic extremism or other such weasel words – but Islam, period.

Every one of the hijackers who flew airliners into the World Trade Center and Pentagon were professing and practicing Moslems, as is Osama bin Laden. The Al Qaeda terrorist network, is based in Moslem countries and supported financially by the so called pious Moslem leadership of Saudi Arabia.

The overwhelming majority of Moslem religious authorities who have spoken out on the subject, including those at the main mosque in Mecca and Egypt’s prestigious Al Azar University, either endorse or rationalize acts of terrorism. On a day when Americans were incinerated or buried under tons of rubble, Muslims from Nigeria to Indonesia, celebrated in the streets.

Sept. 11 was one chapter in a 1400-year jihad. Every day, the World Trade Center massacre is reenacted on a smaller scale somewhere in the world. Jewish women and children are burned alive in a bus in Israel. A missionary is beheaded in the Philippines, gunmen shoot up a church in Pakistan (deliberately firing into the prostrate bodies of women trying to shield their children). Ancient monasteries and convents are destroyed in Kosovo. Women are sentenced to death for adultery in Nigeria, Hindus are murdered in the Kashmir. In Denmark, the Muslim community there has put a $30,000 bounty on the heads of Jews and those who support Israel. Nuns are beheaded in Baghdad, Christians in Sudan are forced into slavery, and in Britain, Islam openly states it is going to take over not only the UK, but the whole world -- and the beat goes on.

Genocide in the Sudan, ethnic cleansing in the Balkans, religious persecution in Saudi Arabia, calls for another holocaust in mosques from Mecca to Gaza, the imposition of Islamic law in Nigeria, forced conversions in Indonesia, synagogues burned in France, Jews attacked across Europe – these are everyday events, as Third World and much of the First slowly turns Islamic green.

Sadly our leaders, from President Bush on down, insist on peddling the absurdity that Islam is a religion of peace – a creed of kindness and benevolence tragically and inexplicably corrupted by fanatics.

Why is the leadership of the West reluctant to confront manifest reality? The reason lies partly with our absurd foreign policy. We have declared certain Moslem nations to be our loyal allies – including Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan. We would not want to offend these dear friends by saying something unflattering about their bloody, butcherly, dark ages faith.

Americans are naturally benevolent. Most of us are taught from childhood that is religion is good (and it does not matter which religion). As long as little Johnny believes in God and goodness, it’s inconsequential whether he lights candles, wears a skull cap to services or prays in the direction of Mecca.

This works with every religion except Islam.

Consider the following: Of the three major western religions: one was started by a lawgiver who helped to free slaves; one by a man of peace; the last one by a man who loved war and having sex with children. Mohammed not only led men into battle, he enjoyed marrying girls as young as six years old (it is in the Koran). The essence of his message is sick and disgusting. A holy war where you slaughter your enemies, while at the same time encouraging followers to have sex with the children they capture (as he did) for the glory of Allah. He even advised his followers to negotiate false peace treaties in order to lull their enemies.

For almost 1,400 years, that has been the reality of Islam. Within a century after the death of Mohammed, Islam spread throughout the Middle East and across North Africa. It overran the Iberian peninsula and was finally stopped in southern France. It spread eastward as far as the southern Philippines. It was not propagated by fresh-faced young men knocking on doors and announcing: “Hello. I’m from your local mosque. Have you considered the Koran?” It was and is spread by force – conversion by the sword or death. This is still in practice today.

Some will respond that all religions go through periods of violence, usually in their infancy. Christianity had its crusades and Inquisition, its forced conversions and expulsions. The evil committed in the name of Christ happened centuries ago. The evil committed in the name of the Prophet is going on now, as you read these words. Of 22 conflicts in the Third World, 20 involve Moslems versus someone else. Coincidence? In his brilliant book, “Clash of Cultures and the Remaking of World Order,” Samuel Huntington speaks of Islam’s “bloody borders.”

There is no Methodist Jihad, no Jewish Hasidic holy warriors, no Buddhist monk wanting to have 72 virgins waiting for him after a suicide bombing, no Hindu Holy men plotting to blow up people, no Southern Baptist suicide bombers, no Mormon elders preaching the annihilation of members of other faiths.

Islam is a warrior religion – the perfect vessel for fanatics, the violence-prone, the envious and haters of all stripes. This is one reason why Islam is making so many converts among the peaceable denizens of our prison system.

Still, much of the West is addicted to a fairy-tale version of Islam. Christian and Jewish clergy fall all over themselves to have interfaith services with imams. Representatives of Moslem groups are invited to the White House. The president signs a Ramadan declaration. In California, public schools ask children to role-play at being Moslems. Our universities take carefully selected verses from the Koran and present them as the essence of the faith. All that’s needed is a Moslem character on “Sesame Street.” Look – it’s the Jihad Monster!

This perspective engenders a fatally false sense of security. Imagine, in 1940, Winston Churchill taking to the airwaves to announce “Nazism is an ideology of peace which, regrettably, has been perverted by a few fanatics like Hitler and Goebbels. But most storm troopers and SS men are fine follows – your friends and neighbors.”

For the first thousand years of its history – from the death of Mohammad to the 17th. century decline of the Ottoman empire, Islam was an expansionist force. For the next 300 years, as the West rose to preeminence, Islam receded. For the past four decades – fueled by Arab oil wealth, a surplus population in the Middle East, the waning of the West and the rise of more virulent strains of the faith (Shiism, Wahhabism, Sunni fundamentalism) – Islam is expanding once more.

Due to Moslem immigration and aggressive proselytizing, Islam is being exported to the West. Moslem populations are burgeoning throughout Western Europe. (In southern France, there are more mosques than churches.) In Judeo-Christian America, Islam is the fastest growing religion. It is also spreading down the coast of West Africa, through the Balkans (after Serbia, Macedonia is the next target) and up from Mindanao in the Philippines.

Wherever it comes, Islam brings its delightful customs – child marriages, female circumcisions, rabid hatred toward Christians, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists and every other non-muslim, terrorism and support for terrorism and a virulent intolerance of other faiths.

Am I suggesting we declare war on over 1 billion million Moslems? The question is moot – Islam has declared war on the rest of the human race. When one side knows it’s at war and the other thinks peace and brotherhood prevail, guess who wins?

Ultimately, it is not about Jews in Israel, or Orthodox Serbs in Kosovo, or Hindus in Kashmir, Buddhists in Thailand, or Maronite Catholics in Lebanon, Taoists in China, or Christians in Sudan and Nigeria, but all of us. As Ben Franklin would have it – Either we will hang together, or surely we shall all hang separately.

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43 posted on 10/18/2003 12:10:49 PM PDT by miltonim
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To: PsyOp
U.S. commander killed in Iraq firefight
cnn ^ | 10-18-03

Posted on 10/18/2003 1:48 PM EDT by wheelgunguru

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Four U.S. military police, including a commanding officer, and two Iraqi policemen, were killed in two separate incidents Friday.

The latest deaths bring the number of U.S. troops killed in hostile fire since President Bush declared an end to major combat to 101.

Among those killed in a 12-hour gunfight in the holy city of Karbala was the 43-year-old commanding officer of the 716th Military Police Battalion, 101st Airborne Division.

Two other U.S. military police officers and two Iraqi policemen died in the firefight after attempting to negotiate with armed men congregated near a mosque after curfew. Twelve members of the joint patrol -- seven Americans and five Iraqis -- were wounded. (Gallery: Clash in Karbala)

Tensions have been high in Karbala where there is a power struggle among rival Shiite factions.

Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr last week announced he was forming an Islamic state in Iraq, calling for "peaceful demonstrations" by those who agree. After little showing of support, he later withdrew his proposal.

On Friday, speaking in Al Kufa, near Najaf, Sadr accused the United States of stirring dissent in Karbala.

"America seeks to apply the feature of terrorism on me in particular, especially after the declaration of the new state, to mar the reputation of this line in general and to be able to arrest me legally," he said. "Therefore it sowed dissent in Karbala and some other cities."

U.S. Maj. Ralph Manos said Friday that between 20 and 30 Iraqis attacked the Iraq-U.S. joint force when they tried to disarm an unknown, armed faction that had established itself near a mosque in the holy Shiite city.

He said the force was on routine patrol in Karbala, about 55 miles (88 kilometers) south of the Iraqi capital, when the gunfight broke out.

The other solider killed, from the U.S. Army's 220th Military Police Brigade, was caught by the blast of an improvised explosive device, which wounded two more soldiers. U.S. Central Command said the device detonated at 7:50 a.m. (12:50 a.m. EDT) Friday.

Since the Iraq war began in March, 336 U.S. troops have been killed, including 216 in hostile fire. Since Bush's declaration of the end of major combat May 1, 197 U.S. troops have died -- 101 in hostile fire.

There is no reliable source for Iraqi civilian or combatant casualty figures, either during the period of major combat or after May 1. The Associated Press reported an estimated 3,240 civilian Iraqi deaths between March 20 and April 20, but the AP reported that the figure was based on records of only half of Iraq's hospitals and the actual number was thought to be significantly higher.

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44 posted on 10/18/2003 12:20:58 PM PDT by miltonim
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To: PsyOp
<(º@º)> <<-Mo'ham'AD(BBQ Sauce be upon him)
45 posted on 10/18/2003 12:49:30 PM PDT by hosepipe
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To: PsyOp
Awesome thread, thank you.. Candidate for topic of the year, imo
46 posted on 10/18/2003 1:08:44 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Concentrate
Making Scientologists look better than Muslims takes talent.

Or about 8 pounds of Semtex on the Muslim.

47 posted on 10/18/2003 6:55:39 PM PDT by steveegg (I have one thing to say to the idiot that stole Game 6 - MOVE!!!)
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To: miltonim
"Jews rule the world by proxy" and the world's 1.3 billion Muslims should unite, using nonviolent means for a "final victory solution."

That's what he really meant...

48 posted on 10/18/2003 7:35:32 PM PDT by PsyOp ( Citizenship ought to be reserved for those who carry arms. - Aristotle.)
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To: Sabertooth
Interesting poem. Can't say that I've ever been a big fan Casius Clay. Didn't even bother with that movie Will Smith made, and I usually enjoy watching him.

Clay, like many others got sucked into Islam, IMHO, because the religion appeals to anyone that feels they have been oppressed and tells them it's O.K. to kill and hate whoever is responsible.

I think that is why the Wahabbi's are doing so well recruiting members out of our prisons. As recruitd, they aren't the sharpest tacks in the drawer to begin with, they all think they've been oppressed for reasons they can't control, and here comes someone with a religion ready made to channel that anger and fatalism under the guise of peace and discipline. Furthermore, they have already demonstrated a willingness to violate the law and will probably be willing to do so in the name of their new religion once they have been properly indoctrinated.
49 posted on 10/18/2003 7:52:44 PM PDT by PsyOp ( Citizenship ought to be reserved for those who carry arms. - Aristotle.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks for the links. I pulled a few quotes from Osama to add to the mix.

"Praise be to Allah, who revealed the Book, controls the clouds, defeats factionalism, and says in His Book: "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)"; and peace be upon our Prophet, Muhammad Bin-'Abdallah, who said: I have been sent with the sword between my hands to ensure that no one but Allah is worshipped, Allah who put my livelihood under the shadow of my spear and who inflicts humiliation and scorn on those who disobey my orders." - Shaykh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin, “Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders,” World Islamic Front Statement, 23 February 1998.

"[D]espite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation." - Shaykh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin, “Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders,” World Islamic Front Statement, 23 February 1998. The interesting thing about this one is that it seems to establish a linkage between Osama and Saddam.

"The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies--civilians and military--is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, 'and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,' and 'fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah.'" - Shaykh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin, “Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders,” World Islamic Front Statement, 23 February 1998.

"We--with Allah's help--call on every Muslim who believes in Allah and wishes to be rewarded to comply with Allah's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson." - Shaykh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin, “Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders,” World Islamic Front Statement, 23 February 1998.

50 posted on 10/18/2003 8:11:52 PM PDT by PsyOp ( Citizenship ought to be reserved for those who carry arms. - Aristotle.)
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To: All
Excerpts from the 1968 PLO Charter

"Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. This is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase. The Palestinian Arab people assert their absolute determination and firm resolution to continue their armed struggle and to work for an armed popular revolution for the liberation of their country and their return to it." - PLO Charter, Article 9, 1968.

"The liberation of Palestine, from an Arab viewpoint, is a national (qawmi) duty and it attempts to repel the Zionist and imperialist aggression against the Arab homeland, and aims at the elimination of Zionism in Palestine. Absolute responsibility for this falls upon the Arab nation- peoples and governments--with the Arab people of Palestine in the vanguard. Accordingly, the Arab nation must mobilize all its military, human, moral, and spiritual capabilities to participate actively with the Palestinian people in the liberation of Palestine. It must, particularly, in the phase of the armed Palestinian revolution, offer and furnish the Palestinian people with all possible help, and material and human support, and make available to them the means and opportunities that will enable them to continue to carry out their leading role in the armed revolution, until they liberate their homeland." - PLO Charter, Article 15, 1968.

"The Balfour Declaration, the Palestine Mandate, and everything that has been based on them, are deemed null and void. Claims of historical or religious ties of Jews with Palestine are incompatible with the facts of history and the conception of what constitutes statehood. Judaism, being a religion, is not an independent nationality. Nor do Jews constitute a single nation with an identity of their own; they are citizens of the states to which they belong." - PLO Charter, Article 20, 1968.

"The Arab Palestinian people, expressing themselves by armed Palestinian revolution, reject all solutions which are substitutes for the total liberation of Palestine and reject all proposals aimed at the liquidation of the Palestinian cause, or at its internationalization." - PLO Charter, Article 21, 1968.

"Zionism is a political movement organically associated with international imperialism and antagonistic to all action for liberation and to progressive movements in the world. It is racist and fanatic in its nature, aggressive, expansionist and colonial in its aims, and fascist in its methods. Israel is the instrument of the Zionist movement, and the geographical base for world imperialism placed strategically in the midst of the Arab homeland to combat the hopes of the Arab nation for liberation, unity, and progress. Israel is a constant source of threat vis-à-vis peace in the Middle East and the whole world. Since liberation of Palestine will destroy the Zionist and imperialist presence and will contribute to the establishment of peace in the Middle East. That is why the Palestinian people look to the progressive and peaceful forces and urge them all, irrespective of their affiliations and beliefs, to offer the Palestinian people all aid and support in their just struggle for the liberation of their homeland." - PLO Charter, Article 22, 1968.

PLO Charter, 1968 Version

Excerpts from the 1964 PLO Charter

*Remember the '67 War, the one that ended with isreal in control of the West Bank? Supposedly, the PLO was formed in response to that "occupation." And yet, they have a charter in place a full three years before that. Something to keep in mind.

"We, the Palestinian Arab people, who faced the forces of evil, injustice and aggression, against whom the forces of international Zionism and colonialism conspire and worked to displace it, dispossess it from its homeland and property, abused what is holy in it and who in spite of all this refused to weaken or submit." - PLO Charter, Introduction, 1964.

"Palestine, with its boundaries at the time of the British Mandate, is a indivisible territorial unit." - PLO Charter, Article 2, 1964.

"The Palestinians are those Arab citizens who were living normally in Palestine up to 1947, whether they remained or were expelled. Every child who was born to a Palestinian Arab father after this date, whether in Palestine or outside, is a Palestinian.
"Jews of Palestinian origin are considered Palestinians if they are willing to live peacefully and loyally in Palestine." - PLO Charter, Article 6 & 7, 1964.

"Bringing up Palestinian youth in an Arab and nationalist manner is a fundamental national duty. All means of guidance, education and enlightenment should be utilized to introduce the youth to its homeland in a deep spiritual way that will constantly and firmly bind them together." - PLO Charter, Article 8, 1964.

"Arab unity and the liberation of Palestine are two complementary goals; each prepares for the attainment of the other. Arab unity leads to the liberation of Palestine, and the liberation of Palestine leads to Arab unity. Working for both must go side by side." - PLO Charter, Article 12, 1964.

"The partitioning of Palestine, which took place in 1947, and the establishment of Israel are illegal and null and void, regardless of the loss of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and its natural right to its homeland, and were in violation of the basic principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, foremost among which is the right to self-determination." - PLO Charter, Article 17, 1964.

"The Balfour Declaration, the Palestine Mandate System, and all that has been based on them are considered null and void. The claims of historic and spiritual ties between Jews and Palestine are not in agreement with the facts of history or with the true basis of sound statehood. Judaism, because it is a divine religion, is not a nationality with independent existence." - PLO Charter, Article 18, 1964.

"Zionism is a colonialist movement in its inception, aggressive and expansionist in its goal, racist in its configurations, and fascist in its means and aims. Israel, in its capacity as the spearhead of this destructive movement and as the pillar of colonialism, is a permanent source of tension and turmoil in the Middle East, in particular, and to the international community in general. Because of this, the people of Palestine are worthy of the support and sustenance of the community of nations." - PLO Charter, Article 19, 1964.

"The Palestinian people believe in peaceful co-existence on the basis of legal existence, for there can be no coexistence with aggression, nor can there be peace with occupation and colonialism." - PLO Charter, Article 22, 1964.

"This Organization does not exercise any territorial sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, on the Gaza Strip or in the Himmah Area. Its activities will be on the national popular level in the liberational, organizational, political and financial fields." - PLO Charter, Article 24, 1964.

PLO Charter, 1964 Version

51 posted on 10/18/2003 10:14:02 PM PDT by PsyOp ( Citizenship ought to be reserved for those who carry arms. - Aristotle.)
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To: PsyOp

Those who think that Islam is the religion of peace - here is a personal story to counter that.

My adopted Afghan brother, converted to Christianity at about the same time he became a citizen. Over the years, he was successful in getting most of his family out of the war torn country.

One of his brothers arrived with both of his wives (he told INS that one was his Aunt),it is OK to lie to the infidels, our laws mean nothing to Allah fearing faithful muslims.
His brother has remained a faithful muslim. He doesn't know of my brother's conversion because he would kill him.

My brother hides his bible under his mattress, and reads it only when he is alone. Living in the US has not diminished his fears. He literally fears for his life, and fears his family most of all.





52 posted on 10/19/2003 7:18:03 AM PDT by ODDITHER
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To: All
WASHINGTON: A key al Qaeda terrorism suspect was in Canada looking for nuclear material for a dirty bomb, a Washington based daily reported on Saturday.

Adnan El Shukrijumah is being sought by the FBI and CIA in connection with a plot to detonate a dirty bomb a conventional explosive laced with radioactive material.

According to an FBI informant, El Shukrijumah was spotted last year in Hamilton, Ontario, posing as a student at McMaster University, which has a 5-megawatt research reactor. U.S. officials believe El Shukrijumah, whose photograph was posted on the FBI's Web site in March, was in Hamilton trying to obtain radioactive material.

One U.S. official said he is a key North American al Qaeda member who is useful to other Middle Eastern members of the terrorist group because of his knowledge of the United States and his ability to speak English.

October 19 2003
http://www.hipakistan.com/en/detail.php?newsId=en42197&F_catID=&f_type=source


53 posted on 10/19/2003 8:10:26 AM PDT by miltonim
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Clash With Shiites and Bomb Attack Leave 4 G.I.'s Dead

By JOEL BRINKLEY

Published: October 18, 2003
NY Times

KARBALA, Iraq, Oct. 17 — On a gritty street at the edge of town, a joint United States-Iraqi military patrol fell into a firefight with two dozen heavily armed guards of an ambitious and militant Shiite cleric near midnight on Thursday, leaving at least 10 people dead, including 3 American servicemen and 2 Iraqi security officers. Seven more Americans were reported wounded in the gun battle.

With the death of a fourth American, a military policeman killed by a roadside bomb in the Baghdad area on Friday, the 24-hour period was the deadliest for American forces here in a month, pushing the number of American combat deaths since President Bush declared an end to major hostilities to 101.

The American task here appears to be growing ever more complicated. Until recently, the American forces had been battling Sunni Muslims, Saddam Hussein loyalists and perhaps other Islamic fundamentalists who have slipped across the border from neighboring countries.

But in the past week, Americans have begun facing pockets of resistance from elements of the Shiite Muslim community, which constitutes more than 60 percent of Iraq's population and had until now accepted — or at least tolerated — the American presence.

The guards involved in the gun battle work for Mahmoud al-Hassani, a cleric allied with Moktada al-Sadr. Americans blame Mr. Sadr for several recent disturbances and attacks, and last week he proclaimed his own government for Iraq.

The firefight appeared to signal a hardening resolve on the part of the United States to face down such militant Shiite clerics.

Excerpted http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/18/international/middleeast/18IRAQ.html?ex=1067054400&en=1860deedd9dce983&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

54 posted on 10/19/2003 8:17:39 AM PDT by miltonim
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Mad poet my butt!!..Try mouthpiece of SATAN.
55 posted on 10/19/2003 8:26:05 AM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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Prayers for your daughter! In December my Son-in-law is being shipped to Somalia, of all places.
56 posted on 10/19/2003 9:11:34 AM PDT by COBOL2Java
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1983 Beirut blast began new era of terror


By Scott Dodd
Knight Ridder News Service


    A truck bomb ripped through the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut 20 years ago this week, marking the first major assault in a two-decade terrorist war of embassy bombings and plane hijackings that culminated on Sept. 11, 2001.
    The shocking attack killed 241 U.S. servicemen in a single strike -- more than died on the deadliest day of fighting in Vietnam, this year's invasion of Iraq or the entire 1991 Persian Gulf War.
    And it gave terrorists a major victory. The bombing drove the military from its peacekeeping mission in Lebanon and provided a blueprint for attacking Americans. The retreat of U.S. forces inspired Osama bin Laden and sent an unintended message to the Arab world that enough body bags would prompt Western withdrawal, not retaliation.
    "There's no question it was a major cause of 9-11," said John Lehman, the then-secretary of the Navy, who today is a member of the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks. "We told the world that terrorism succeeds."
    About 2,000 Beirut veterans and family members will gather Thursday at Camp Lejeune in North Carolina, where most were stationed in 1983. They will mourn fallen comrades and remember a doomed mission.
    At best, they believe, the world has forgotten their sacrifices. At worst, they fear they will always be considered a failure -- and the painful lessons of their tragedy will be ignored.
    "It was such a useless, fruitless thing," says Brian Kirkpatrick, a Beirut survivor who crawled his way out of the rubble. "We gained nothing. We lost everybody."
    But in the Pentagon and the State Department, Beirut has not been forgotten, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage told The Charlotte Observer. Many of the leaders from 20 years ago -- who now serve President Bush -- work to avoid a repeat of the disaster as they plan the military missions of today.
    Bush reminded Americans of the tragedy in a prime-time speech last month. He urged the country to prepare for a long and costly effort to rebuild Iraq and not to repeat the mistake of leaving before the job was done.
    "What would happen if we left this business unfinished," Armitage said, "is an Iraq that would become more of a threat -- sort of an Iraq unchained."
    The Beirut bombing taught the United States more about protecting troops and picking battles. Using the military for peacekeeping, leaders learned, can be just as hazardous as fighting a well-defined enemy.
    But as the U.S. death toll in Iraq rises, critics of the Bush administration question whether those lessons are being heeded, or if the United States has been set up for another failure at the cost of American lives.
   
    On dangerous ground: In 1983, Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger didn't want the Marines in Beirut.
    They had gone in the year before to calm fears that Lebanon's civil war could spark a battle engulfing the entire Middle East. The Marines' role was to evacuate Palestinian fighters and prevent an invasion from neighboring Israel.
    U.S. diplomats promised the safety of Palestinian families who remained. But after the Marines finished their job and withdrew in 1982, thousands of Palestinians -- largely women, children and the elderly -- were massacred by Israeli-backed Lebanese militia.
    "It was three days of absolute butchery," said Robert Dillon, then-U.S. ambassador to Lebanon. The slaughter jeopardized a high-profile initiative by President Reagan to end the Arab-Israeli conflict.
    An embarrassed State Department persuaded Reagan to send the Marines back, hoping their mere presence in Lebanon would prevent further bloodshed and salvage the peace plan. Weinberger fought the decision.
    "We didn't have any objective," Weinberger told The Observer. "The argument was that to simply have Americans on the ground would maintain the peace."
    The Marines were handicapped, former National Security Adviser Robert "Bud" McFarlane said, by infighting in the Reagan Cabinet. McFarlane and Secretary of State George Shultz wanted a more aggressive mission in Lebanon to root out foreign support of the warring factions. Weinberger and the Joint Chiefs of Staff were opposed.
    "Behind the scenes was a very, very pitched battle," McFarlane said. "Reagan didn't want to take sides between his Cabinet officers, and the Marines were hostage to this paralysis."
    To signal they were neutral in the civil war, the Marines were stationed between warring factions. They made their base at Beirut International Airport -- the tactically unwise low ground.
    They carried weapons, but the rules of engagement mostly forbade them from keeping a round in the chamber. They had orders not to shoot unless they were direct targets and knew for sure who had fired first. The on-base drinking hole became known as the "Can't Shoot Back Saloon."
    But by trying to keep order in Beirut, the Marines and U.S. diplomats were seen as allies of Lebanon's unpopular government and became targets of snipers, shellings and car bombings.
    In April 1983, terrorists smashed a stolen GMC pickup loaded with explosives into the U.S. Embassy, killing 63 people, including 17 Americans.
    Six months later, the truck bomb at the Marine barracks killed 241 U.S. troops.
   
    Beirut as a guide: After the barracks bombing, Reagan had a choice: Commit more forces to Lebanon only nine years after Vietnam, when public support for a long military conflict was low, or retreat.
    "It's a hard thing to say, it's a hard thing to accept, but we had lost," said Ryan Crocker, the political officer in the Beirut embassy, who later became deputy secretary of state for Near East Affairs. "The situation would not have gotten any better. We would have had more dead Marines."
    To political and military leaders in the United States, the pullout made sense. With a crippled Marine battalion and no clear military target, some thought withdrawal was the only option.
    "You can't police the world," said P.X. Kelley, the then-Marine commandant. "Sometimes the best option is to do nothing."
    But to terrorists and their backers, it was a sign of weakness, confirming their belief that the Americans had no staying power. The Syrian prime minister had told Morris Draper, a special presidential emissary, just months before: "You Americans can't hold your breath."
    The U.S. response to the barracks bombing was limited. Despite indications that it was carried out by the radical Islamic group Hezbollah and backed by Iran, a planned U.S. military mission to bomb terrorist training camps was never carried out.
    Top Reagan officials disagree on why. Weinberger says a conclusive link to Iran and Hezbollah was never proven. McFarlane said Weinberger was too concerned about the political risks of failure and losing support from U.S. allies in the Arab states.
    Either way, critics say the lack of retaliation cemented America's weak image in the Arab world.
    "If we had struck back and pulled out," said Bill Cowan, part of a top secret intelligence team sent to investigate the bombings, "we wouldn't have been leaving with our tail between our legs."
    Two decades of Arab-backed terrorism have followed the bombings of the Marine barracks and the embassy in Beirut.
    American soldiers are "paper tigers," Osama bin Laden told ABC News in 1998. "The Marines fled after two explosions."
    Using the Beirut bombings as a guide, terrorists:
    * attacked American embassies in Kuwait two months later, and Kenya and Tanzania in 1998, killing 307 Americans and others.
    * hijacked TWA Flight 847 for 17 days in 1985, taking hostages and killing a Navy diver.
    * exploded Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988, killing 270.
    * bombed the World Trade Center in 1993, killing six and wounding about 1,000.
    * killed 19 Americans in the 1996 bombing of Khobar Towers, a U.S. military base in Saudi Arabia. The attack also wounded more than 370 Americans and Saudis.
    * struck the USS Cole in Yemen in 2000, killing 17 sailors and injuring 39 others.
    * flew hijacked planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001, killing nearly 3,000 people.
    In those cases and dozens more, terrorists exploited unconventional methods and Western openness. And in almost every case until Sept. 11, the U.S. military response was minimal.
    For bin Laden and other terrorist leaders, Beirut showed how to attack a larger force and inflict the maximum damage -- physical and psychological. Terrorism experts say manuals found in al-Qaida's Afghanistan training camps were filled with references to Beirut.
    "The fact is, today, the people who ran that operation are heroes" among terrorist groups, "and nothing has ever been done against them," said Lehman, the former Navy secretary. "Not retaliating was a terrible blunder."
   
    Key changes: While terrorists took their lessons from Beirut, the Pentagon learned more about when to send troops and how to protect them.
    "Culturally, it changed the military," said Phil Anderson, a former Marine and terrorism expert.
    Weinberger summed up the lessons in a 1984 speech. The main points of what became known as the "Weinberger Doctrine" were restated after the first Gulf War by Colin Powell, then-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff: The United States should commit troops only when vital national interests are at stake, only as a last resort, and with overwhelming force.
    "It has to be for a sufficiently important cause," Weinberger told The Observer.
    The doctrine has been modified -- and sometimes ignored -- over the years, but the Beirut lessons still had a major impact:
    Commanders insisted on more clearly defined missions with sufficient force to carry them out and a way to determine when troops could go home.
    "You don't halfstep it," said Jay Farrar, a former Marine captain who served in Beirut and is now a military expert for the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "You deal swiftly and with a tremendous amount of force."
    Policy-makers realized that "presence" is not a mission, and commanders became increasingly reluctant to commit troops to peacekeeping efforts unless they were welcomed by all sides. Armitage cited the recent example of the U.S. role in Liberia, when both sides in a civil war requested U.S. troops.
    The concept of "force protection" came of age after the barracks attack. Rules of engagement are less limiting, and security around U.S. forces is tighter.
    "We go in heavy," said P.J. Crowley, a retired Air Force colonel and former special assistant for national security affairs to President Clinton. "We have a plan for protecting our forces."
    Crowley and other critics of the Bush administration say that is where planning for the occupation of Iraq has failed. War planners didn't send enough U.S. troops and failed to win enough support from other countries.
    "We did the war without completely understanding how to do the peace," he said. "We're ad hocing the peace."
    More U.S. servicemen and women have died in Iraq since the end of major combat operations was declared May 1 than during the six-week invasion. Terrorist car bombings have ripped through the United Nations' Baghdad headquarters and other civilian targets.
    A recent survey by the military newspaper Stars and Stripes found many troops in Iraq expressing sentiments similar to their Beirut counterparts. Roughly a third said their morale was low and their mission ill-defined. They characterized the war in Iraq as having little value.
    But Armitage said there are key differences between the mistakes in Lebanon and Iraq today.
    "In Lebanon, we didn't have a clear mission. We didn't understand the complexities."
    In Iraq, he said, the troops have that clear mission -- creating stability. Two-thirds of servicemen and women polled agreed. And other policy-makers argue that troops need to stay until that mission is accomplished.
    "There would be lingering perceptions of Beirut today if we pulled out of Iraq prematurely," said Dennis Ross, a Middle East envoy under two presidents. "The perception would be the U.S. intervenes, but it does not stay."
   

SUNDAY October 19, 2003
Salt Lake Tribune
http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Oct/10192003/nation_w/103305.asp

57 posted on 10/19/2003 9:14:11 AM PDT by miltonim
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Four killed in Afghan bomb blast
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Peshawar, Oct 19 - A bomb blew up a pickup truck on a dirt road in Afghanistan's eastern Kunar province, killing four people and wounding five others, an Afghan military official said Sunday.

There was no claim of responsibility for Friday's explosion, but the official, Irshad Khan, blamed fighters of the Al-Qaida terrorist network and the ousted Taliban regime.

The incident came two days after the Taliban allegedly distributed pamphlets in Kunar warning Afghans against working with the post-Taliban US-backed government of President Hamid Karzai, said Khan, an official in the 9th Afghan military brigade based in Asadabad, the provincial capital.

Five of the wounded were in serious condition and were moved to a US military hospital in Bagram, north of the national capital, Kabul, said Khan.

http://www.iribnews.com/Full_en.asp?news_id=190680&n=21

58 posted on 10/19/2003 9:48:15 AM PDT by miltonim
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IED blast in J-K, four injured

Press Trust of India

Srinagar, October 18: Four officials of the Industrial Training Institute in Srinagar were injured when militants set off an improvised explosive device in Badgam district of central Kashmir on Saturday, official sources said.

Militants had planted the IED to blow up security vehicles passing through Namtihal village but it missed the target and hit the vehicle in which the ITI officials were travelling injuring four of them, the sources said.

Sunday, October 19, 2003
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=25483

59 posted on 10/19/2003 9:51:57 AM PDT by miltonim
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October 19, 2003

Hizb militant, one villager killed in J-K Gun battle

Press Trust of India

Jammu, October 17: A top Hizbul-Mujahideen militant and a villager killed, and three others were injured in a fierce gun battle in Doda hills of Jammu and Kashmir on Friday, official sources said.

Army troops launched a search operation in Marm at high altitude mountains in Doda district to track down a group of Hizb militants active in the area for the past three months, the sources said in Jammu.

http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=25456

60 posted on 10/19/2003 9:55:51 AM PDT by miltonim
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