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Battle Of Bannockburn Stirrups Unearthed
Scotsman ^ | 10-17-2003 | George Mair

Posted on 10/17/2003 2:45:19 PM PDT by blam

Battle of Bannockburn stirrups unearthed

GEORGE MAIR

ARCHAEOLOGISTS claim to have discovered the first physical evidence of the Battle of Bannockburn.

A pair of horse stirrups, found earlier this year on a flood plain believed by most historians to be the site of the decisive second day of the battle, have been dated to the 14th century.

They were unearthed by Tony Pollard and Neil Oliver, two archaeologists working on the final day of excavations for the forthcoming BBC2 series Two Men in a Trench.

The badly-corroded iron stirrups are thought to have belonged to an English knight, probably one of the 10,000 English invaders killed in the battle.

Laboratory tests carried out at Glasgow University reveal the items, which are not a matching pair, were once coated in shiny metal, suggesting they belonged to a wealthy English knight of the heavy cavalry. They are believed to have been torn off in the heat of battle.

Mr Pollard, 38, said: "The stirrups are the first archaeological finds to be retrieved from the site in 700 years.

"We can only assume that the ground was very muddy at the time.

"Thousands of men would have churned up the land and bucket loads of things would have been dropped.

"The English were routed, and those who survived would have left the field in panic, leaving things like weaponry and armour behind.

"After medieval battles it was common for scavenging to take place. Iron weaponry may also have eroded to nothing in the damp, carse soil, and we are left to discover the little which remains."

The stirrups were discovered after several days scouring fields around the Carse, near Stirling, with metal detectors.

It was only on later examination that their importance became evident. Mr Pollard said: "We didn’t know what they were at first, because they just looked like unusual lumps of iron.

"It was only when we got back to the lab, cleaned them up and had a good close look at them that we saw what they were."

Stirling Council’s regional archaeologist, Lorna Main, who has investigated possible Battle of Bannockburn sites, said:

"They are the first physical evidence ever found from the battle, and they help to substantiate the theory of fighting on the Carse."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; artifacts; bannockburn; battle; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; scotland; stirrups; unearthed
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1 posted on 10/17/2003 2:45:19 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
"Scots, wha hae wi' Wallace bled,
Scots, wham Bruce hae aften led,
Welcome tae yir gory bed,
Or to victory!"

etc. etc.

2 posted on 10/17/2003 2:46:53 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: blam
Somebody unhorsed by a Knight Templar?
3 posted on 10/17/2003 2:47:59 PM PDT by curmudgeonII
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To: AnAmericanMother
I have that song on tape.

It is also the song which opens the highland games at Grandfather Mountain North Carolina. At least it was the last time I was there years ago. The melody is what I would call haunting.

4 posted on 10/17/2003 2:50:21 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog
I used to compete in Highland Dancing at Grandfather.

Of course that was a LONG, LONG time ago - I think the last year I competed must have been '73 or '74. :-D

It's a good song. As a Highlander, I prefer the Gaelic songs, but that's just me.

5 posted on 10/17/2003 2:54:49 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: blam

6 posted on 10/17/2003 2:54:52 PM PDT by Pokey78 ("I thought this country was founded on a principle of progressive taxation." Wesley Clark to Russert)
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To: blam
I collect rare stirrups. I have a pretty extensive collection. It looks like I have another set of "Holy Grail" stirrups to lust over.
7 posted on 10/17/2003 2:55:55 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (..the hour is getting late)
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To: AnAmericanMother
I competed at the highland games too. Probably 1970 or 71. I really think I would have won the 100 but they held the 220 first. I had not worked out for a couple of months and did not realize how out of shape I had gotten.

I was leading everyone at 150 yards by about 20 feet then the bear jumped on my back. I think I finished 3rd. They ran the 100 about 10 minutes later and my legs were like rubber. I think I still finished about 3rd again.

8 posted on 10/17/2003 3:01:10 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Pokey78
Battle Of Bannockburn Sequence Of Events


9 posted on 10/17/2003 3:07:36 PM PDT by blam
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To: yarddog
"By the beard of my father! but ye are whelps of the true breed. Why so keen, then, to be soldiers?"

"That we may fight the Scots," they answered. "Daddy will send us to fight the Scots."

"And why the Scots, my pretty lads? We have seen French and Spanish galleys no further away than Southampton, but I doubt that it will be some time before the Scots find their way to these parts."

"Our business is with the Scots," quoth the elder; "for it was the Scots who cut off daddy's string fingers and his thumbs."

"Aye, lads, it was that," said a deep voice from behind Alleyne's shoulder. Looking round, the wayfarers saw a gaunt, big-boned man, with sunken cheeks and a sallow face, who had come up behind them. He held up his two hands as he spoke, and showed that the thumbs and two first fingers had been torn away from each of them.

"Ma foi, camarade!" cried Aylward. "Who hath served thee in so shameful a fashion?"

"It is easy to see, friend, that you were born far from the marches of Scotland," quoth the stranger, with a bitter smile. "North of Humber there is no man who would not know the handiwork of Devil Douglas, the black Lord James."

"And how fell you into his hands?" asked John.

"I am a man of the north country, from the town of Beverley and the wapentake of Holderness," he answered. "There was a day when, from Trent to Tweed, there was no better marksman than Robin Heathcot. Yet, as you see, he hath left me, as he hath left many another poor border archer, with no grip for bill or bow. Yet the king hath given me a living here in the southlands, and please God these two lads of mine will pay off a debt that hath been owing over long. What is the price of daddy's thumbs, boys?"

"Twenty Scottish lives," they answered together.

"And for the fingers?"

"Half a score."

"When they can bend my war-bow, and bring down a squirrel at a hundred paces, I send them to take service under Johnny Copeland, the Lord of the Marches and Governor of Carlisle. By my soul! I would give the rest of my fingers to see the Douglas within arrow-flight of them."

- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle The White Company

(a very good read, BTW)

10 posted on 10/17/2003 3:13:51 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: yarddog
I competed every year from about '68 until '72 or '73, but I was over on the other side of the field at the dancing platform! :-D

I won the Intermediate Championship one year - I still have that tacky old trophy bashing around here somewhere. I went to dance camp for 3 weeks before Grandfather - so I didn't have a chance to get out of shape.

It creeps up on me quicker every year though . . . now it seems like I only have to miss one morning jog to feel like the Mother of All Bears is hitching a ride . . . :-(

11 posted on 10/17/2003 3:16:21 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother
I am almost certain I once read that Robert Burns chose the tune to "Scots Wha Hae" because it was the same one which Robert Bruce had chosen to be played at Bannockburn. I think the tune was an old one.
12 posted on 10/17/2003 3:19:43 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: blam
Lovely to see our history.
13 posted on 10/17/2003 3:31:39 PM PDT by Khurkris (Scottish/HillBilly - Revenge is an Art Form for us. Ranger On...)
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To: blam
Lovely to see our history.
14 posted on 10/17/2003 3:37:51 PM PDT by Khurkris (Scottish/HillBilly - Revenge is an Art Form for us. Ranger On...)
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To: Khurkris
Interesting tag line.
Conversation on revenge I overheard:
"You should be more forgiving, God said "Revenge is mine, I will repay"
"I must be about my Father's business!"
15 posted on 10/17/2003 3:40:46 PM PDT by Central_Floridian
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To: AnAmericanMother
I was at the highland games in 1994. I love the dancing. It looks pretty simple but suspect it really isn't.

My Daddy had been several times in the 70's but he really was frustrated this time because the traffic was horrible. He said that would be our last time.

16 posted on 10/17/2003 3:45:41 PM PDT by Shanda
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To: AnAmericanMother
I'm of mixed race, but no Scot as far as I know. More's the pity. I really like them for some reason.

Since I was a child I've liked bagpipe music and gaelic folksongs. I have no problem understanding Scots when they speak. As a little colored girl from the city, I have no idea why I have this affinity for the Scottish. Maybe reincarnation?
17 posted on 10/17/2003 3:54:43 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: yarddog
I competed at the highland games too.

No...wait..that wasn't me.

18 posted on 10/17/2003 4:01:58 PM PDT by ALASKA (That's my own personal, correct opinion and I'm going with it!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
0 Flower of Scotland,
When will we see
your like again,
That fought and died for,
Your wee bit Hill and Glen,
And stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
19 posted on 10/17/2003 4:28:18 PM PDT by Slainte
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To: radiohead
I'll bet you have some ancestors from Cape Breton Island N.S. or thereabouts. Plenty of black folk up there spoke Gaelic. One of them features in Kipling's novel Captains Courageous.

My husband is only vaguely Scottish - his mom is half aboriginal Irish and half Bremen German, his dad is a Heinz 57 from central Georgia whose mother was a Dunbar (lowland Scot, not Highland). But he wears his kilt and enjoys himself just the same.

20 posted on 10/17/2003 4:36:36 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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