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American Jews Who Worked for a Secular America Made a Fatal Error
Jewish World Review ^ | November 28, 2023 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 11/28/2023 12:05:46 PM PST by Paal Gulli

American Jews Who Worked for a Secular America Made a Fatal Error

By Dennis Prager

Published November 28, 2023

Since World War II, most American Jews have believed that the more secular American society is, the more secure their status.

This has been, as I have argued all of my life, a colossal error. Indeed, it may turn out to be a fatal error. With the outburst of unprecedented levels of antisemitism, American Jews are living the famous warning: "Beware what you wish for; you just may get it."

The primary reason American Jews have lived in the most Jew-friendly, even Jew-honoring, country in history is that most Americans have been Christian. But we must make a key distinction here. American Christians have been not just Christian, as Europe was, but Judeo-Christian. Nearly all the American Founders were either traditional Christians (i.e., believers in the Christian Trinity) or believers in G od but not in the Christian Trinity. Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin fall into this latter category. But almost to a man the Founders were Judeophiles. Indeed, Jefferson and Franklin wanted the seal of the new United States to depict the Jews leaving Egypt....

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1 posted on 11/28/2023 12:05:46 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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FTA—— American Jews have lived in the most Jew-friendly, even Jew-honoring, country in history in that most Americans have been Christian.

In 1808, founding father John Adams wrote about the Jews:

“I will insist the Hebrews have (contributed) more to civilize men than any other nation. If I were an atheist and believed in blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations...”

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2 posted on 11/28/2023 12:19:03 PM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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To: Paal Gulli

But we don’t have a problem with the Buddhists or the Hindus, and they aren’t Christian. It’s only one polygamist cult which passes as a religion that doesn’t play nice with others, and I don’t mean the Fundamentalist Mormons. They get in trouble for incest, statutory rape, etc., but they aren’t shooting up shopping malls or blowing up airplanes.


3 posted on 11/28/2023 12:20:19 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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FTA-—Since World War II, most American Jews have believed that the “more secular” American society is, the more secure their status as Jews.

This has been a colossal error. Indeed, it may turn out to be a fatal error.

With the outburst of unprecedented levels of antisemitism, American Jews are living the famous warning: “Beware what you wish for; you just may get it.”

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4 posted on 11/28/2023 12:22:18 PM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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Yes, but it is the liberal secularist who has become their fellow traveller in regard to the Jews.


5 posted on 11/28/2023 12:24:55 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Paal Gulli

I believe Dennis P is basically correct. I’ve heard Jewish workers and students wish outloud they had good Christians in their offices/schools they could appeal to to help get antisemitic discrimination off their backs. But the higher level positions were occupied, taken over by atheists or secular leftist types —- the very same sort of amoral people who are the racists/ antisemites causing the harms in the first place.


6 posted on 11/28/2023 12:26:22 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Paal Gulli

Good article. I like and respect Dennis Prager.


7 posted on 11/28/2023 12:26:44 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Paal Gulli
I’m always fascinated by Prager’s commentary on this subject. But he gets one thing wrong here in the process of quoting someone else who gets it wrong:

The late great Catholic theologian Michael Novak wrote that the roots of the doctrine that "all men are created equal lie in Judaism, carried around the world by Christians."

Novak was flat-out wrong about this. The spread of the Gospel among the Gentiles was distinctly Christian in nature, not a characteristic of Judaism. There is no “Chosen People” in Christianity, and the message of salvation for the entire human race is a Christian one, not a Jewish one. In fact, Judaism is rooted in its identity of exclusivity — which is why Jews generally don’t proselytize.

Prager might find it sobering to know that what he’s observing isn’t new. I’d suggest it’s just the latest manifestation of that epic point in history when the Jews stood before Pontius Pilate and chose Barabbas.

”We have no king but Caesar!”

8 posted on 11/28/2023 12:27:28 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Paal Gulli
The only inscription on the Liberty Bell is from the Hebrew Bible, specifically the Book of Leviticus, the third book of the Torah: "Proclaim Liberty Throughout All the Land Unto All the Inhabitants thereof."

Until 1800, you could not graduate from Harvard University without knowing Hebrew. The insignia of Yale University is in Hebrew, depicting the breastplate of the Jewish High Priest.

...back when the country was stronger and better....

9 posted on 11/28/2023 12:29:06 PM PST by GOPJ (Ignorant but arrogant is a sad way to start an adult life. Victor Davis Hanson on Ivy college grads)
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Many Israeli Jews have long believed that the more secular Israel is, the more secure Israel would be. Those Leftists no longer have a chance to a major player in the Knesset, but they still control Israel’s judiciary, permanent bureaucracy, school systems and colleges, and MSM, and they will kill Israel rather than give up their Deep State power. The consequences are easy to see.


10 posted on 11/28/2023 12:33:54 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Alberta's Child

The old testament and the new testament are ‘the Bible’... and both form our unique Christian culture. When we evangelize we’re bringing heathens and pagans to believe in the Hebrew God and in his Son, Jesus Christ. Intertwined is an understatement.


11 posted on 11/28/2023 12:35:23 PM PST by GOPJ (Ignorant but arrogant is a sad way to start an adult life. Victor Davis Hanson on Ivy college grads)
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OK, but I’m not sure I understand your point.

Every version of the Christian Bible includes the Old Testament. There is no place for the New Testament in Judaism. To the extent that they are “intertwined,” it only goes one way.

12 posted on 11/28/2023 12:40:11 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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They rolled the dice with the Soviet Union and came up bupkus, but that devious relationship worked because they transited Russia's grift and extracted their tax; now they roll the dice with the Confucians and they'll come up worse than they can possibly imagine, because China can be guaranteed to hit at least the major Jewish population centers of the US before being reigned in.

But then we'll have a new set of problems so it hardly matters either way, really...

13 posted on 11/28/2023 12:54:00 PM PST by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: Paal Gulli
. . the more secular American society is, the more secure their status.

Didn't work out so well in Communist Russia.

14 posted on 11/28/2023 12:55:33 PM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . . ")
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To: Alberta's Child

Do you know why we end our prayers with ‘in Jesus’s name we pray’?


15 posted on 11/28/2023 1:18:01 PM PST by GOPJ (Ignorant but arrogant is a sad way to start an adult life. Victor Davis Hanson on Ivy college grads)
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When we evangelize we’re bringing heathens and pagans to believe in the Hebrew God and in his Son, Jesus Christ.

Not quite; you're forgetting the third Person of the Trinity.

16 posted on 11/28/2023 1:54:36 PM PST by Captain Walker ("It is infinitely better to have a few good Men, than many indifferent ones." - George Washington)
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Supporting “Multiculturalism” probably didn’t help much either. Tons of brown people just see jews as a different type of White and hate them.


17 posted on 11/28/2023 2:17:47 PM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: Paal Gulli

Secular Jews, secular Christians, and secular Muslims get along OK. It’s the religious ones that have problems with each other.

The Hindus seem to accept religious variety without demanding doctrinal purity. The Buddhists basically don’t care what others think. The Confucianists are more philosophical than religious.


18 posted on 11/28/2023 2:22:49 PM PST by FarCenter
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To: jjotto
Many Israeli Jews have long believed that the more secular Israel is, the more secure Israel would be.

That makes no sense, since their claim to the land is rooted in the Bible, and God's unmistakeable instructions to keep His commandments as the Israelites' role in His covenant with them.

Reminds me of that mess 20 years ago when Judge Moore erected a Ten Commandments statue at the Alabama courthouse while he was chief justice of the state, and the Anti-Defamation League was prominent in having it taken down.

19 posted on 11/28/2023 2:23:14 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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>>Tons of brown people just see jews as a different type of White and hate them.

American Jews are typically Ashkenazi and about 50% European genetically.


20 posted on 11/28/2023 2:24:30 PM PST by FarCenter
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