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(vanity) Has a Republican president ever been upset?

Posted on 10/27/2020 11:54:06 AM PDT by JoanSmith

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To: TexasFreeper2009
I can’t remember a single time the republican was expected to win, ever.

Everyone expected Reagan to win in '84. The scale of the beatdown he gave Mondale was what was unexpected.
41 posted on 10/27/2020 12:15:49 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: datura

GHW Bush

Read my lips no new taxes!!!


42 posted on 10/27/2020 12:16:45 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: JoanSmith

Teddy Roosevelt, or Taft?


43 posted on 10/27/2020 12:17:08 PM PDT by steve8714
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To: DuncanWaring

McCain was the original “Lid Candidate”


44 posted on 10/27/2020 12:18:45 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DuncanWaring

You are right. So maybe no republican incumbent ever lost unexpectedly.


45 posted on 10/27/2020 12:20:20 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Robert DeLong

Also 1992 had Ross Perot as a strong independent candidate. He got 19% of the vote. We will never know for sure, but many think Perot siphoned more votes from Bush than votes which would have gone to Clinton, if Perot had not been in that election.


46 posted on 10/27/2020 12:20:38 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I still think Clinton wins with or without Perot, Bush was a loser. He mailed it in during his campaign.


47 posted on 10/27/2020 12:21:27 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: littleharbour

In my opinion, on purpose.


48 posted on 10/27/2020 12:21:59 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Robert DeLong
Number one his statement: read my lips, no new taxes, on his election for his first term. He then turned around and allowed the taxes to be increased rather than veto them. His second blunder ...

The real blunder in that first one was trusting democrats to stick to the deal. He wanted the tax hikes, make no mistake. He didn't care for Reagan or his policies. But he thought the dems and the media (same thing) would praise him as bipartisan. Instead they threw the 'no new taxes' soundbites and then blamed him for the recession (which actually was his fault because he did sign off on the tax hike). So his blunder, in his view, wasn't raising taxes, it was not foreseeing that the dems would stab him the back over it.

I honestly think Bush I was undone by four things: the tax hike, the supermarket scanner thing, looking at a watch in the debate, and the pony-tail guy who asked how Bush would protect and provide for the citizens who were his symbolic children who he was responsible to care for. Together they made him seem to be an out of touch, uncaring patrician liar. Which is what he was.

49 posted on 10/27/2020 12:22:03 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: JoanSmith

Well, I imagine they got pretty peeved from time to time.


50 posted on 10/27/2020 12:22:23 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Do not mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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To: PBRCat

Checking his watch during one of the debates sure didnthelp his cause.


51 posted on 10/27/2020 12:24:09 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Don W
On content perhaps, I never have seen it as I was 8 years old living in Japan, but I have heard that he came across as appearing very nervous and was sweating profusely under the lights. Have no clue if any of that is true though. Not even sure how many debates the two had. 8>P

Perhaps you can shed some light on the debate(s).

52 posted on 10/27/2020 12:24:14 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: JoanSmith

Welcome to FR.


53 posted on 10/27/2020 12:25:37 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: DuncanWaring

true


54 posted on 10/27/2020 12:25:38 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Don W

Kennedy-Nixon

Everyone who listened to the debate thought Nixon won hands down. Vote fraud won the day for Kennedy.


That was before my time. But I recall hearing, that people who watched the debates on TV thought Kennedy won the debates, while radio listeners thought Nixon did.

Kennedy had a better presentation on camera, apparently.

Yes vote fraud was part of that election as well. It was razor thin, and we know that Mayor Daley and his boys in Chicago were very active in that election. JFK won Illinois by only about 8,000 votes. A recount and investigation could well have turned up some irregularities. Nixon chose to avoid going into any of that.


55 posted on 10/27/2020 12:26:07 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: JoanSmith

1972: Nixon was the heavy favorite from the start, though some may have claimed (falsely) it wouldn’t have been such a cakewalk had Teddy Chappaquiddick decided to run that year.


56 posted on 10/27/2020 12:27:22 PM PDT by PermaRag (WANTED: millions of patriotic gun owners who are willing to trade bullets for freedom)
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To: TexasGurl24; JoanSmith
Truman beating Dewey.

IOW you phrased the thread title wrong, Joan. Reread the thread title, then your OP.

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57 posted on 10/27/2020 12:27:47 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Captain Peter Blood

In 1992, Clinton had the plurality. He got about 43% of the vote, Bush got about 38%, and Perot got about 19%. But he was far short of a majority. And he didn’t crack 50% in his reelection either.

This is good to bring up, when liberals complain about the electoral college. Nobody complained when more people voted against Bill Clinton than for him, when he got comfortable victories in the electoral vote each time.


58 posted on 10/27/2020 12:28:30 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yeah that was a factor as well. But Ross Perot wasn’t really in the race to win, but rather to keep Bush from winning. But was Perot a spoiler because people believed him, or had Bush killed himself because he lied to the base and betrayed them, making Ross Perot to easily become the spoiler by defections within the base?


59 posted on 10/27/2020 12:30:32 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Thomas Dewey was the last Presidential Candidate with facial hair from the major parties! Whenever will this discrimination CEASE!

60 posted on 10/27/2020 12:31:01 PM PDT by SES1066 (2020, VOTE your principles, VOTE your history, VOTE FOR ALL AMERICANS, VOTE colorblind!)
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