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Why I Won’t Vote for Ted Cruz – #NeverCruz
Patheos ^ | April 4, 2016 | Professor Warren Throckmorton

Posted on 04/04/2016 12:54:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In this crazy GOP primary season, I have come out frequently for John Kasich although I could have lived with Marco Rubio as well. Given the available choices, a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be a pretty formidable duo to face either Clinton or Sanders in November.

For me, Donald Trump and Ted Cruz are non-starters. In this post, I want to outline why I can’t vote for Ted Cruz.

Cruz promises to deport 12 million illegal immigrants

Not only does Cruz hold a morally reprehensible policy, in my view, but he toughened his position to pander to the pro-Trump crowd. In February, Cruz told Bill O’Reilly that he would deport all undocumented immigrants who are in the U.S. However, in January, he said he wouldn’t send immigration authorities to homes to round them up. Furthermore, he made a point to say that those he evicts won’t be allowed to try for legal entry later as favored by Trump.

Watch Cruz on the O’Reilly Factor:

In practice, I believe the forced eviction of 12 million people would be a humanitarian disaster, comparable to the forced migration of Native Americans during the Trail of Tears between 1830 and 1850. It is conceivable that some will resist deportation setting up possible violent stand-offs with authorities. Many have children who were born here. I can imagine children left behind in makeshift arrangement with many tragic stories. I can also imagine myself taking some kind of action to protest mass deportation; I certainly won’t vote to make it more likely to happen.

In addition to the logistical and moral problems, it would be quite costly, Forbes Magazine estimated that the deportation of approximately 12 million people would cost $114 billion. More recently, a Wall Street Journal analysis pegged the cost at around $400 billion, In addition, the hit to the GDP would be about $1 trillion.

I have to believe that Cruz is aware of the costs but is making the pledge to deport anyway for political reasons. This leads me to my next problem with Cruz

Cruz surrounds himself with people who have a problem with truth

David Barton and Glenn Beck immediately leap to mind. Barton was one of those who anointed Cruz in 2013 and Glenn Beck has been Cruz’s surrogate in the media and on the campaign trail since Beck endorsed Cruz during the Iowa primaries. Space doesn’t permit an examination of Barton’s historical and current misadventures but you can read about them here.

At Cruz’s rallies in Iowa, South Carolina and Nevada, Beck floated several fraudulent stories about George Washington (see here, here, and here). Beck issued a statement admitting the deception to Huffington Post, but he blamed HuffPo for his mistakes on his own website and never apologized or admitted the truth to Cruz’s supporters.

Barton and Beck aren’t peripheral figures in the Cruz universe. Barton heads one of Cruz’s Super PACs and Beck has become a spokesman for Cruz. Along with foreign policy advisor and conspiracy theorist Frank Gaffney, Beck and Barton as close advisors call into question Cruz’s judgment. An administration full of these appointments is unthinkable.

Despite Cruz’s religious tones, I don’t trust him – In part because of his advisors, I don’t trust Cruz. Their claim that Cruz is God’s candidate is icing on the distrust cake. His father, his wife, David Barton and Glenn Beck have all expressed in one way or another that Cruz is divinely anointed to be president. In Israel’s history, God intervened and chose kings. However, America is not Israel and those who claim to know God’s will on this matter immediately arouse my suspicion.

I became more keenly aware of how little I trust Cruz when he recently said in a town hall meeting that one should be skeptical of a candidate who claims God’s favor. He was essentially holding himself up for scrutiny since he is the only candidate with that platform in this campaign.

Cruz has not spoken much about how his belief in special knowledge would inform his policy decisions. There is no religious test to become president but since Cruz has previously gotten direction through interpreting “words” given to his wife, I want to know if he will continue getting directions on big decisions in this manner as president.

To me, how he makes decisions is important because Cruz’s willingness to compromise (something he hasn’t shown much willingness to do) might be hindered by a believe that his position is God’s position. One of his advisors, David Barton, believes man’s law cannot contradict God’s law. He also believes the Bible speaks authoritatively on public policy. It is a fair question to ask: Will Cruz run the country as a pastor or politician? Given his rhetoric and advisors, I can’t support a candidate who thinks his positions are gospel rather than the offerings of a fallible man who is open to give and take.

Cruz dismisses climate change as religion

He has made several false statements about climate change science, including that the Earth has not warmed over the last 18 years (it has) and that there was a scientific consensus about “global cooling” in the 70s (not true). He seems to be on the same page as that great climate scientist David Barton.

He does with climate science what Barton and Beck do with history and social science. I simply can’t trust someone who consistently mishandles the evidence.

Cruz’s behavior toward Arab Christians

For the American Conservative, Rod Dreher wrote about a Cruz appearance before an Arab Christian audience where Cruz walked off in the middle of his speech. Dreher wrote:

Personally, I strongly believe in the US-Israel alliance. But it is not unlimited and unconditional, and you have to be out of your mind to expect Arab Christians to share the views of American Christian Zionists on the Israel issue. The idea that Ted Cruz would take the opportunity of these Arab Christians meeting in Washington to raise awareness of the genocide being perpetrated on their people — sorry, our people, the Arab Christian people — tells me everything I need to know about his sorry character. Whenever people talk about what a sleazebag Donald Trump is, I find myself nodding along in agreement, but then I remember that Ted Cruz did this to some of the most desperate people in the world. His own people! Christian people!

Cruz’s promise to carpet bomb ISIS is reckless

Cruz promised on more than one occasion to carpet bomb ISIS. Either he doesn’t know what carpet bombing is or he intends to target civilians. Either possibility is a serious problem. I also think his uninformed tough talk does little to build alliances in the Muslim world just when we need them the most. This problem is probably the result of my next serious concern.

Cruz would have to learn on the job

The Republicans rightly criticized Barack Obama’s lack of experience in 2008. Cruz is open to the same concern. When Barack Obama left the Senate in November 2008, he had served just shy of four years. If Cruz wins the presidency, he will have served the same amount of time in the Senate. Most of what Cruz talks about is theoretical since he has no strong record of legislative accomplishment. Shutting down the government and alienating most GOP colleagues doesn’t seem like a solid foundation for the kind of wise, experienced leadership one hopes for in a president. As is true of Trump, Cruz would not be ready to be president on day one.

I could go on and I might add to the list. Generally, Cruz is to the right of Ronald Reagan while he claims to be a Reagan Republican. I would not trust or feel safe with Cruz as president. I do not believe a mass deportation is moral and I don’t believe the economy would survive it. Imagining his advisors as administration officials is frightening. There is no reason to expect that the partisan divide in D.C. would do anything but expand. Cruz has been unable to forge a working relationship with his own party, let along the political opposition. He seems to put his religious ideology ahead of sound science and political compromise.

Besides all of these considerations, Cruz consistently loses to Hillary Clinton in polls asking about voter preference in the general election. It should not be hard to see why Cruz’s positions won’t be attractive in the general election.

For all of these reasons, I simply can’t vote for Ted Cruz in PA’s primary or in November.


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1 posted on 04/04/2016 12:54:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Perfect is the enemy of good.

Winning the battle and losing the war.

That kind of thing.


2 posted on 04/04/2016 12:56:23 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I bet I would disagree with Professor Warren Throckmorton in any discussion involving government’s role.


3 posted on 04/04/2016 1:00:15 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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Likes Kasich and Rubio.

We know the type.

Doesn’t get much traction around here.


4 posted on 04/04/2016 1:00:40 PM PDT by IncPen (Hey Media: Bias = Layoffs)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I got this far "Given the available choices, a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be a pretty formidable duo to face either Clinton or Sanders in November." and said, whoever wrote this is to stupid to breath.
5 posted on 04/04/2016 1:01:24 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“In practice, I believe the forced eviction of 12 million people would be a humanitarian disaster”

Obviously, you don not understand Cruz’s positions.


6 posted on 04/04/2016 1:01:25 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

#NeverCruz — vs — #NeverTrump


7 posted on 04/04/2016 1:01:29 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Prof Warren is a snowflake and probably a poofter.


8 posted on 04/04/2016 1:01:36 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I stopped at you being a Kasich and Rubio supporter. Nothing el needed to be said.


9 posted on 04/04/2016 1:02:22 PM PDT by Durbin
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To: IncPen

Non eligible, not Natural Born Citizen, Cuban-Canadian, Pinocchio Ted attacking Big Donald at CNN freestyle match.

Cruz "character":

1. Phony summonses mailed out, scaring people to vote for Cruz.

2. Claiming Carson quit, presinc captains told voters "vote for Cruz"

3. Campaigning in the 800 churches, showing video "vote for me" with his preacher/father stomping for him. Rafael Cruz is a Seven Mountain Dominionist and believes his son is the anointed one.

4. "Brilliant" lawyer, did not know he was Canadian citizen and that he is not Natural Born Citizen, not eligible for office of P or VP.

5. Making phony video advertising with lies about opponents.

6. Uses Trump's wife in advertising "vote for Cruz" and then screams that Trump hates women, while he "loves them" - keeping few extra mistresses.

Just enough to beat Trump in IA, apologize, rinse and repeat?
Liar is the polite term for this Cuban-Canadian. His father was pro-communist in Cuba, imprisoned by Batista, but now he is refugee?

IRREFUTABLE AUTHORITY HAS SPOKEN

(Oct. 18, 2009) The Post & Email has in several articles mentioned that the Supreme Court of the United States has given the definition of what a "natural born citizen" is. Since being a natural born citizen is an objective qualification and requirement of office for the U.S. President (and VP), it is important for all U.S. Citizens to understand what this term means.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/18/4-supreme-court-cases-define-natural-born-citizen/

10 posted on 04/04/2016 1:02:39 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually, the true reason the the good prof will not be voting Cruz is because he will be voting for Hillary or Bernie


11 posted on 04/04/2016 1:03:25 PM PDT by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Millera)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; dragnet2; Pelham; Jane Long; V K Lee; LS; Grampa Dave; All

“Watch Cruz on the O’Reilly Factor:

In practice, I believe the forced eviction of 12 million people would be a humanitarian disaster, comparable to the forced migration of Native Americans during the Trail of Tears between 1830 and 1850. “

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Ok. That seals it. Ted Cruz is ignorant and runs his mouth just to make a show.

Comparing the Trail of Tears to LEGALLY DEPORTING INVADERS by bus or plane is just DISHONEST and NASTY!

Those people were run out of THEIR HOME LAND after WINNING a supreme court decision that the could remain! They were marched on foot IN THE WINTER for a thousand miles with scant provisions. Thousands died.

NO ILLEGAL ALIEN was or will NEVER be marched out of this country and NONE of them EVER died from being deported!

Ted Cruz is a con man and a LIAR! To use this sad event to score political points shows just what a smarmy Nixon type character this CANADIAN BORN snake oil salesman is. He is USING the Christian right just like Hillary uses Black Americans!

Wake up!


12 posted on 04/04/2016 1:03:49 PM PDT by AuntB (Trump right on Trade, Immigration, Terrorism,Economy, 2nd amend. Without them, we are lost.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The professor has retarded thinking.


13 posted on 04/04/2016 1:04:07 PM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like Cruz and would vote for him if he were eligible to run for the office of President, but he is not. His father was not an American Citizen at the time of his birth. Case closed as far as I am concerned. Both parents must be U.S. Citizens in order to be a NBC.


14 posted on 04/04/2016 1:05:01 PM PDT by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: AuntB

Honey, I think someone needs to take you to Walgreens.


15 posted on 04/04/2016 1:06:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: mc5cents

Is Ted Cruz a natural-born citizen eligible to serve as president? [Yes! And I support him! JimRob]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3084490/posts


16 posted on 04/04/2016 1:07:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

According to the article...and the author is MORE than confusing....it appears he is quoting Cruz.....I can’t tell.

He says.......
Cruz on the O’Reilly Factor:

In practice, I believe the forced eviction of 12 million people would be a humanitarian disaster, comparable to the forced migration of Native Americans during the Trail of Tears between 1830 and 1850. It is conceivable that some will resist deportation setting up possible violent stand-offs with authorities. Many have children who were born here. I can imagine children left behind in makeshift arrangement with many tragic stories. I can also imagine myself taking some kind of action to protest mass deportation; I certainly won’t vote to make it more likely to happen.

Is this the authors words or Cruz’s?

Can YOU answer a question without an insult???? Probably not...nevermind!


17 posted on 04/04/2016 1:08:30 PM PDT by AuntB (Trump right on Trade, Immigration, Terrorism,Economy, 2nd amend. Without them, we are lost.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"He has made several false statements about climate change science, including that the Earth has not warmed over the last 18 years (it has)"


18 posted on 04/04/2016 1:08:50 PM PDT by TexasGator
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Cruz started out as my #1 pick. Now, I’d had to see him get the nomination and become president. But I’d hate to see Hillary or Bernie as president even more. So as much as I would like to sit out a Cruz / Clinton race, I can’t do that to my grandkids.


19 posted on 04/04/2016 1:08:58 PM PDT by Kipp
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To: AuntB

He’s known as “Lying Ted” for good reason.


20 posted on 04/04/2016 1:09:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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