Posted on 06/13/2003 7:21:36 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford
A few questions about the feminist ideology -
First, exactly what is the feminist ideology?
Does it degrade women?
If so, how does it degrade women?
How (if at all) is it unfair in its treatment of men?
Feminism -- the radical notion that women are peopleThe idea with broad appeal: That women are people.
The specifics (unstated on the bumper sticker): the policies of the radical feminists. Equal pay laws. Abortion on demand. Destruction of tradition. I should have mentioned above in my description of the pattern that since the specifics are always going to be less popular than the broad goal, the specifics should never be mentioned when it can be avoided. When it cannot be avoided, the discussion should be shifted as quickly as possible to the broad idea.
The method: Demagoguery; anyone who opposes the specifics must be cast as opposing the idea with broad appeal. In this case, done with a healthy dose of sarcasm.
Doesn't the pattern I describe there fit not only feminism but also what has happened with the civil rights movement?
particularly for an identifiable demographic group
More often than not, this group is the "children". Observing FR, it's apparent that conservatives are often guilty of this.
Our turkeys taste better than the ones in Michigan
You're going to have to back up that comment....which means I need to get a turkey there.
If you're ever in Wisconsin I'll show you some nice places to hunt grouse
Thanks. I may take you up on that offer sometime if I'm out that way.
Turkeys are becoming very plentful around here.
You'll just have to come on down some spring and give it a try.
How about this one?
When there is a strong need, people will ban together for social change. In the case of feminism, it originally meant that women should have the right to vote, to run for political office, to compete in the job market for jobs, to own property in their own right, and to control property in their own right. This battle was fought right up through the '70s and won.
Here is the interesting point. Once an organization succeeds in its original goals, it either becomes morbund or it becomes infiltrated by radicals. In the case of feminism, as more and more of their goals were won, the mainstream women drifted away because there was no longer a need for organized lobbying and activism. They had won. But as they drifted away, the radicals (leftist man hating lesbian eco terrorists) took over the leadership positions in the feminist organizations. And thus we see what we have today.
Those of us who are old enough remember when feminism was simple: women should have the right to vote, to run for office, to get a job, to own and control property. Feminism today is all about pushing the homosexual leftist anti-Christian anti-conservative agenda.
I believe you already know how seriously I take political movements that seek only to alter the basic natures of men and women.
But all the rest is very real and should not be discounted. LOL. ;-)
For the most part the movement has lost all touch with reality. (see below) During a discussion in Constitutional Law II we were discussing the equal rights cases out of Mississippi involving using one physical standard for fire and police tests. After listening to several of the "spoon-fed" liberal females, who had never held a full-time job while attending their posh private schools, talk about how there is no difference to the sexes I raised my hand and requested all of their mailing addresses so I could invite them to my baby shower as I was going to run out and start trying to get pregnant.
After the uproar died down I then requested that the very liberal professor who weighed about 105 lbs. either drag or carry me across a 90 foot room (I weighed about 210 lbs) She advised she couldn't and I then explained that is the reason there was one physical standard and she had no business working in either law enforcement or the fire department.
After that uproar died down I requested someone to direct me to the clause in the Constitution that said everyone was allowed to hold whatever job they wanted. I further requested what Consitutional Authority stood for the proposition that an individual could tell a prospective employer what job the applicant is qualified to perform. After the shouting and name-calling stopped I requested that someone explain to me how equal rights can be interpreted to be equally qualified.
Needless to say I was not a very popular guy in my law school with the liberals...
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In General:
There was a time when any number of non-male, non-caucasian groups/individuals did not have equal access to the machinations of power in this country.
Groups that came together to rectify that situation were needed at that time.
Individuals that wound up leading such groups came to love the power and access such leadership afforded. Now they must create issues in order to artificially sustain the groups in order to maintain their access to power.
An ugly undercurrent during this time is that these groups have become infested with individuals that, knowingly or not, espouse a desire for some variation of a Socialist, re-distribution of wealth, style government.
JMHO.
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