Discussion About Feminism - Vanity

[Cathryn Crawford]

A few questions about the feminist ideology -

First, exactly what is the feminist ideology?

Does it degrade women?

If so, how does it degrade women?

How (if at all) is it unfair in its treatment of men?

[Cathryn Crawford]

Let's keep it civil.

[Cathryn Crawford]

Your input would be appreciated.

[Arpege92]

Feminist organizations such as NOW serve no useful purpose what so ever! Women in organizations like NOW do nothing but use their politicall correct attitude as a bat to beat those who's opinions differ from their opinions.

[MHGinTN]

Feminists For Life has a great feminism perspective ... some great looking Ladies in their membership, also.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

If you laid all of the feminists end to end, it would be the best thing that ever happened to them.

[Mr. Mojo]

First, exactly what is the feminist ideology?

It posits that there are no differences between men and women other than reproductive ones. ...And it is wrong, of course.

[strela]

Here's my take:

First, exactly what is the feminist ideology?

In a nutshell, women are always perennial, innocent victims of the evil that men do.

Does it degrade women?

Sho nuff.

If so, how does it degrade women?

By spreading propaganda that women are some sort of special personages who cannot take care of themselves and will invariably be insulted, discriminated against, assaulted, or even killed by some man somewhere UNLESS they give a lot of money to the organizers of the feminist movement. (For their own protection, of course).

How (if at all) is it unfair in its treatment of men?

"Potential rapist"

"Guilty until proven innocent"

Those are two that come to mind.

[Cathryn Crawford]

I saw that site. Very interesting. I like their motto:

Refuse to choose.

[Cathryn Crawford]

I agree with you. Women and men are inherently different in many ways besides reproductive ones.

[Lorianne]

Which feminist ideology and which branch? And which country? Feminism is not a univerasal monolith and it varies from country to country.

IWF, NOW and ifemenists are but a few of the various branches of feminism.

Feminists have a lot of diverse views. Some are pro-censorship, some are staunchly anti-censorship. Some are pro-2nd Ammendment, some are anit-gun. Most are pro-abortion but not all. Some are separationists (from men) but most are not.

I think you'd have to narrow your questions dowon considerably for a worthwhile conversation.

Likewise, here on Free Republic you people who's views range from feminist conservatives and moderates to people who believe the 19th Ammendment should be repealed and other extreme views.

Just like Conservatism and Liberalism, Feminism has its moderates and it's extremists.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

At the 1997 World Women's Conference the first speaker from England stood up: "At last years' conference we spoke about being more assertive with our husbands. Well after the conference I went home and told my husband that I would no longer cook for him and that he would have to do it himself. After the first day I saw nothing. After the second day I saw nothing. But after the third day I saw that he had cooked a wonderful roast lamb."

The crowd cheered.

The second speaker from America stood up: "After last years' conference I went home and told my husband that I would no longer do his laundry and that he would have to do it himself. After the first day I saw nothing. After the second day I saw nothing. But after the third day I saw that he had done not only his own washing but my washing as well."

The crowd cheered.

The third speaker from Australia stood up: "After last years' conference I went home and told my husband that I would no longer do his shopping and that he would have to do it himself. After the first day I saw nothing. After the second day I saw nothing. But after the third day I could see a little bit out of my left eye."

[Cathryn Crawford]

When you hear the word feminism, what do you think?

[Cathryn Crawford]

Cute.

[Lorianne]

Equality of opportunity.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Only a feminist would think that.

[gcruse]

When I see brilliant, highly placed women like Camille Paglia, Condoleeza Rice, and Justice O'Connor, I find it hard to believe feminism had anything to do with these women getting to where they are. But when I look at the roster of CEOs in American industry, the dearth of women there tells me the feminists may have a point.

Government (politics, really) has a way of doing things industry cannot because government needs the woman's vote, so it makes an effort to be more inclusive. Industry is a harder master, with ingrained prejudices. The Augusta hoo-ha and the PGAs shudderingly divisive inclusion of a female golfer provide plenty of fodder for the feminists.

The feminists, for their part, lost their credibility by embracing the demeaning oral onanism of a Democratic president simply because of his politics.

A pox on their house, but they are not totally wrong.

[William Terrell]

If so, how does it degrade women?

Feminism encourages women to more like men rather than more like women. The latter is natural and the former is impractical. To dilute what one is, with what one is not, is to degrade her.

[abclily]

When I hear feminine, I think lady.
When I hear feminism, I think ugly, power hungry, battle ax.

[patton]

I am beginning to think that you are not who you say you are.

Did you ever watch the princess bride?

[Long Cut]

If we are referring to the facet of feminism propounded by such rocket scientists as Gloria Steinem and Betty Friedan, and carried on today in the political arena by NOW and other radical groups, here's what I see:

They seem to absolutely HATE the fact that they were born female, with all the attendant features, and spend much energy attempting to deny that any difference between males and females exists, therefore;

They are as obsessed with abortion as any prolife zealot. The reason, as it does with the prolifers, escapes me.

They simply swoon over lesbians;

They are frequently shrill, annoying, and unnatractive in the extreme, which leads to...

They despise women who use their natural (and sometimes unnatural) beauty to advance themselves.

Most importantly, however, is the fact that they seem to align themselves with every socialist/leftist cause which comes down the pike, such as environMENTALists, race warlords, and gungrabbers. They also never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity to criticize the enemies of the very country in the world in which their craziness was born...America. Their silence about the ravages of the Islaminazis, for example, is deafening. And damning, IMHO.