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Posted on 10/09/2026 9:56:28 AM PDT by 7thson
I was reading the post and comments concerning Zach Bryan - about him wearing the Free Palestine t-shirt. My thoughts once again strayed to what were these people like back in high school. Were they the ones that joined the Drama clubs, Glee clubs? Were they the ones that were in their own little 2-3 person clique? Were they the ones that looked down on the other students as beneath them, not "educated" like them?
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A quote by Colson and Pearcey in “How Now Shall We Live?” about art schools comes to mind.
“Art began to champion everything opposed to the Enlightenment and science: It exalted emotion over reason, instinct over rationality, sensation over thinking, primitivism over civilisation. Taught first in art colleges, this avant-garde philosophy found its way into recording studios. In fact, a number of influential British rock musicians actually started out as art students, among them Keith Richards, Peter Townshend, Eric Clapton, and John Lennon. As a result, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, The Who, Cream, and many of the other British bands were deliberately creating music that expressed the philosophy of the artist as a romantic hero who smashes established culture to create a new culture of moral freedom, emotional release, animal energy, and vivid sensation. The sheer energy of rock — the pounding beat, the screams, the spectacle — is intended to bypass the mind and appeal directly to the sensations and feelings.”
I think America is only beginning to understand the vast, though shallow effect public schools have had on teaching what is ‘fair, normal and acceptable’ to the average person.
Zach Bryan is just 30 yr old.
The high intensity levels of liberal indoctrination have been at work, mostly unopposed for the past 45 years.
He’s only parroting the lines of reasoning he’s been trained and rewarded for adopting.
The positive thing is many of these young people haven’t thought much about what they claim to believe or disbelieve, and some of them are open to have their attitudes changed.
Later on in life, none of them made it past their twenties, suicide or drugs.
I’ll tell young people all the time that their lives must be pretty good if they have free time to worry about imagined plights of people on the other side of the world.
“When I think back on all the crap I learned in high school
It’s a wonder I can think at all
And though my lack of education hasn’t hurt me none
I can read the writing on the wall”. Paul Simon
I was an art major in college in the early ‘70s and I can attest that one of my teachers spent most of his time lambasting President Nixon.
Got my first paying gig at age 15, that's what was important.
They are all....
This bears repeating... ALL scams.
Celebrities have been only products for about 60 years. It’s all an act - even in their personal lives. Whenever a celebrity speaks you must know that every word out of their mouth is scripted - even when it appears to be honest.
That’s how the entertainment industry works.
To other musicians and artists who night read this : art is incongruent with money. Art is not a job, jobs are not art. If you like the music then listen. That’s how music is enjoyed.
I know many celebrities and they all say the same thing. Public speech is in the contract and their likeness is in the hands of the management totally and that is the only way an artist makes more than 20 dollars. Period. No exceptions.
Apparently you forgot how to spell school in High School!đ€Șđ€Ł
They have been brainwashed by schools and colleges and social media. Critical thinking is no longer taught. If you want to see this in action just go on Reddit. They will label you and call you names but they won’t really debate you because they can’t.
I REALLY LIKE THAT.
The “Free Palestine” shirt is such a fine example of the quote in post two. The only reason arabs reside in Gaza is they were convinced to self-outcast and segregate themselves temporarily until the Arab countries slaughtered the Jews when the UN proclaimed the state in 1948.
That’s how Rush was formed. Their song “Subdivisions” is pretty much an autobiography.
When I was in High School back in the early Seventies, I remember seeing signs around school for “Venceremos”, and I had no idea what that was. I found out later “Venceremos” has Communist roots:
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This is what Grok had to say:
QUESTION: What is a Venceremos club?
ANSWER: There is no widely recognized or standard âVenceremos clubâ in high schools.
âVenceremosâ (Spanish for âwe will winâ or âwe shall overcomeâ) has been used as a name or slogan in several historical and activist contexts, but none of them are typical high school clubs today. Here are the main associations:
Historical Political Group (late 1960sâearly 1970s)
The best-known organization by this name was Venceremos, a far-left (primarily Chicano, later multi-racial Maoist/Communist) political group active mainly in the Palo Alto and Redwood City area of California from roughly 1969 to 1973.
It started as a Latino left-wing group and later incorporated members from other radical organizations.
Activities included protests, community organizing, running candidates for local office, attending school board and city council meetings, and briefly operating a community college in a storefront.
It was militant in orientation and viewed as a serious concern by U.S. authorities at the time. The group largely dissolved by 1973 amid internal issues and legal troubles.
It was not a high school club, though some high school students in the area had connections to related youth or radical groups, and the organization interacted with local schools and school boards.
Other Notable Uses
Venceremos Brigade: An ongoing volunteer organization founded in 1969 that organizes trips to Cuba for Americans (and others) to show solidarity with the Cuban Revolution through work and political education. Participants are often called brigadistas. This is not a school club.
Student publications: At times, âVenceremosâ has been used as the name of progressive or Chicana/o student newspapers (for example, one associated with the University of Utah).
Other organizations: There is a youth football club in the UK called Venceremos FC, a therapeutic riding center with a similar name (Vinceremos), and some schools in Spanish-speaking countries that incorporate âVenceremosâ or âUnidos Venceremosâ into their names (usually primary-level public schools).
In a High School Context
If someone refers to a âVenceremos clubâ at a specific high school, it is almost certainly a local or informal groupâperhaps a cultural, activist, Spanish-language, or social-justice club that chose the name for its meaning of perseverance and overcoming challenges. It is not a national or standardized program like National Honor Society, Key Club, or a typical language club.
In short, the name carries strong historical ties to leftist and Chicano activism from the late 1960s and early 1970s, but there is no established high school club by that name in general use. If this refers to something specific at a particular school, more details would help clarify.
Likely the unpopular geeks.đ
Eye spell fin four knot beeing edumacated.
When I was in high school in Arizona—back in the day—there were no people like this, even among the artsy crowd.
I myself won all sorts of science and other academic awards, was elected to student council, was in honors and advanced placement programs, and got into MIT with a scholarship.
Among my honors program classmates, some were admitted to equally prestigious colleges and universities, and most went to the University of Arizona. Some of them were even artsy, but still made National Honor Society, etc.
There is no way that I can understand modern-day slackers, Palestinian supporters, and premature “Noo” Socialists. Really!
That song came out when I was in the 9th grade. Even then, I thought the same. Though I could not articulate back then, I had a gut feeling that a lot of what I was being taught was crap.
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