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If I Love the Constitutional Goals, Then What Should I Hate?
8/21/26 | Self + Grok

Posted on 08/21/2026 7:40:18 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew

The Constitution’s stated goals are in the Preamble: a more perfect Union, justice, domestic tranquility, common defense, general welfare, and the blessings of liberty for living and for posterity.

If those are the ends you actually love, the consistent opposites are what undermine them:

Disunion and factionalism that treat the country as a temporary alliance of tribes rather than a single people under one law.

Injustice—unequal application of law, corruption of courts, or rule by status instead of by rules.

Disorder that the government fails to suppress: endemic crime, riots, or private violence that makes ordinary life insecure.

Weakness or neglect of the common defense, whether through under-preparation or through policies that invite attack.

Capture of government by narrow interests that substitute private gain or ideological projects for the general welfare.

Erosion of liberty—concentrated, unaccountable power, whether from the executive, the administrative state, or majorities that treat rights as optional.

Short-term extraction that loads unsustainable debt, institutional decay, or demographic/fiscal burdens onto the next generations.

Those are not partisan labels. They are the direct negations of the six purposes the document itself names. Loving the goals therefore requires opposing whatever actually produces their opposites, regardless of who is doing it or what slogan they use.


TOPICS: Education; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: constitution; hate; love; nobodyaskedyou; usa
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People utterly lacking in discerment proudly declare their abhorrence of hate. They "hate hate." The conflict is list on them. No such people should ever vote or hold public office.

I posed the question to Grok concerning what I should hate if I love constitutional goals. The answer was satisfactory, so I am posting it here as one who concurs.

1 posted on 08/21/2026 7:40:18 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Simple answer: Anything libs support.


2 posted on 08/21/2026 7:47:11 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911/June 14, 1944)
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To: ConservaTexan

It largely comes down to that, perhaps with the exception of certain arts.


3 posted on 08/21/2026 7:50:08 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (/s/)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I personally feel that we need discussion and clarification about exactly what ‘turn the other cheek’ means, what are it’s limits, and how do Christians exist in a world that has people who want the exterminated and who will use Christian charity and tolerance as a weapon against them.

I know what the bible says, but the bible can be interpreted wrongly by those who wish the world harm.


4 posted on 08/21/2026 7:50:48 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Here is party platform that dovetails accurately with the U.S. Constitutional preamble content, and one I would wholly endorse as a citizen of the United States.


The Preamble Platform: A governing agenda derived strictly from the six purposes stated in the Preamble to the Constitution of the United States

:We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

This platform treats the Preamble as the Constitution’s mission statement. Every policy is measured against these six ends. Powers not necessary to those ends remain with the States or the people.

The goal is ordered liberty under limited, constitutional government that serves the living and the unborn generations who will inherit the Republic.

1. Form a More Perfect Union
The Union is a compound republic of free states bound by a common Constitution, common defense, and free internal commerce—not a centralized administrative state or a loose confederation.

Restore genuine federalism: return regulatory, educational, and welfare functions to the States whenever they are not clearly national in character.

Protect the integrity of interstate commerce and the free movement of people and goods among the States.
Require civic education that teaches the actual text, history, and structure of the Constitution rather than competing ideologies.

Reject any policy that treats American citizenship as optional or that deliberately fragments the country by race, ethnicity, or ideology.

2. Establish Justice

Justice means equal protection of the laws, due process, and impartial administration—not engineered group outcomes.

Enforce the law equally without regard to race, sex, religion, or political affiliation.

Guarantee due process and the presumption of innocence in every criminal and civil proceeding.

Secure honest elections: citizenship verification, voter identification, paper ballots or verifiable paper trails, same-day voting where practicable, and transparent chain-of-custody rules. Election integrity is the foundation of legitimate government.

Reform criminal justice to prioritize violent and repeat offenders, reduce wrongful convictions, and ensure proportional punishment while protecting the rights of the accused.

End the use of federal power to favor or penalize private citizens or organizations on the basis of viewpoint.

3. Insure Domestic Tranquility

A free people cannot enjoy liberty amid lawlessness, political violence, or uncontrolled disorder.

Enforce existing immigration law and secure the border as a basic requirement of sovereignty and public order.

Uncontrolled illegal entry undermines both Tranquility and the rule of law.

Restore public safety in cities and communities by supporting law enforcement, prosecuting violent crime, and rejecting policies that release dangerous offenders.

Protect the right of peaceful assembly and free speech while prosecuting actual violence, intimidation, and destruction of property.

Reduce the temperature of political conflict by rejecting the weaponization of federal agencies against domestic political opponents.

4. Provide for the Common Defence

National defense is a core, non-delegable federal responsibility.

Maintain the strongest, most technologically advanced military in the world, focused on deterring and defeating peer adversaries rather than endless nation-building.

Treat border security as an integral part of national defense.

Achieve and maintain genuine energy dominance from all domestic sources (including nuclear) so that the United States cannot be coerced by hostile energy suppliers.

Build and sustain alliances that serve American security interests; avoid permanent entanglement in conflicts that do not.

Protect critical infrastructure, including the electrical grid, supply chains, and digital systems, from foreign and domestic threats.

5. Promote the General Welfare

“General Welfare” means the common benefit of the people as a whole, not unlimited redistribution or industrial planning by Washington.

Madison and the First Congress understood it as limited by the enumerated powers that follow.

Pursue policies that expand opportunity through growth: low and predictable taxes, reduced regulatory barriers to work and enterprise, and sound money.

Limit federal spending and debt so that current consumption does not mortgage the future. Long-term unfunded liabilities are a direct assault on Posterity.

Support infrastructure of truly national importance (interstate transportation, ports, air traffic, strategic energy corridors) while leaving local projects to the States.

Protect the conditions for broad prosperity—stable families, affordable energy, and open pathways for work and advancement—rather than managing outcomes by bureaucratic decree.

6. Secure the Blessings of Liberty to Ourselves and Our Posterity

Liberty is the birthright of individuals; Posterity requires that we hand on a free, solvent, and coherent republic.

Defend the full Bill of Rights without hierarchical ranking: speech (including unpopular speech), religion, arms, privacy against unreasonable searches, due process, and the reserved powers of the States and the people.

Protect the right to life of the unborn as the first liberty of Posterity, while recognizing that the Constitution leaves most regulation of abortion to the States after Dobbs.

Require fiscal responsibility so that future generations inherit opportunity rather than crushing debt and diminished sovereignty.

Safeguard the family and parental authority in the education and upbringing of children—the primary transmission belt of liberty across generations.

Practice environmental stewardship that preserves the natural inheritance of Posterity without destroying the economic foundations that make stewardship possible.

Governing Principles

Original meaning and text: Policy begins with what the Constitution actually says and how it was understood at ratification, not with desired modern outcomes.

Subsidiarity: The federal government does only what the States and people cannot effectively do for themselves.

Equal citizenship: One standard of justice and liberty for every American.

Intergenerational duty: Every major fiscal, debt, demographic, and cultural decision must be tested against the interests of those not yet born.

Transparency and accountability: Government that claims to serve the Preamble’s ends must itself be limited, observable, and removable by the people.

This platform does not promise utopia. It promises fidelity to the six purposes the Framers wrote into the opening lines of the Constitution. A government that keeps those purposes continually in view will be more likely to preserve both liberty and Union for the living and for Posterity.


5 posted on 08/21/2026 7:51:03 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (/s/)
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To: neverevergiveup

That comes under “common defense,” where force is a necessary evil for the greater good. “Turn the other cheek” is an attriubute individuals Christians may apply as so moved, but it was not even proposed by Christ as a matter of public policy to be enacted.


6 posted on 08/21/2026 7:56:49 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (/s/)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
It is not the original Constitution. 27 Amendments have been added. The first ten set limits but after that they often added power to Congress. Since the only amendments have come from Congress this is not a surprise .

Despite that the thought of the states getting together and offering their own amendments to bring back power to the states is so frightening to both sides that even an impending Civil War was not enough of an incentive to get it done. The Constitution was amended by war instead.

The debt now at 40 Trillion dollars. Interest payments are now over a trillion a year. A Convention Of States for a Balanced Budget Amendment is needed before hyperinflation becomes the solution.

7 posted on 08/21/2026 8:02:22 AM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
People who don't show up to keep the system running.

People often regard that as not voting or serving in the military or on a jury and that is a part but only a part.

You are suppose to show up at government meetings both to talk and to listen. You are suppose to keep things like libraries, parks, animal shelters, fire departments, museums and schools running with minimal government involvement. You are suppose to be part of civic minded groups, churches and clubs that do these things and show up for the work, not just the cook outs.

If you do not do those things you are not promoting Constitutional goals.

Yes, that means you have to actually leave your house. It means you have to give up leisure time to work. But that is part of promoting the general welfare.

Or you can leave it all to the government and people who work for the government. That does not end well.

8 posted on 08/21/2026 8:03:22 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I just want FReepers to READ THE ARTICLE. And then think 30 secs before pounding keyboard.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Thanks. That’s very helpful, and is exactly what I meant when I said we need discussion and clarification.


9 posted on 08/21/2026 8:06:06 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: ConservaTexan

I think you covered it.


10 posted on 08/21/2026 8:12:41 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Let me nutshell it: The Deep State.


11 posted on 08/21/2026 8:14:39 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Unconstitutioal tyranny.


12 posted on 08/21/2026 8:14:41 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA "by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: neverevergiveup

“clarification about exactly what ‘turn the other cheek’ means”

It means to swivel your butt around 90 degrees.


13 posted on 08/21/2026 8:33:03 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Nateman

The Preamble states the spirit and intent of all that follows. If there are amendments in violation they should be repealed.

One thing that really bugs me is that the right to life has not been established as an enumerated power, as if it is not explicit enough when our Posterity is clearly an objective.


14 posted on 08/21/2026 9:26:24 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (/s/)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Force is not evil, necessary or not.

force is necessary to implement anything, even raising your kids. It is a physics issue, a natural law.

More force than is necessary is crossing the line into bullying, which is where liberals get their power. Yes, all bullies have always been liberals — those who have, from birth, never faced the consequences of their actions.


15 posted on 08/21/2026 9:55:30 AM PDT by bobbo666
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To: neverevergiveup

In Prov. 6:16-19 the Bible lists 6 things the Lord hates, and a 7th that is an abomination. So, Christians are NOT supposed to just tolerate everything (as the left demands of us).


16 posted on 08/21/2026 9:56:22 AM PDT by BuchananBrigadeTrumpFan (If in doubt, it's probably sarcasm)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

“promote the general Welfare” doesn’t mean what modern commies think it does.


17 posted on 08/21/2026 10:15:57 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Dalberg-Acton

It fairly well means the opposite.


18 posted on 08/21/2026 10:31:28 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (/s/)
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To: bobbo666

In this context the use of force apolies to inflicting bodily harm upon another person or persons as a means ofcself-defense. The physics aspect is neutral, but the objects are not, namely human lives. That is why ethical import attaches, good vs. evil.

Just as it is not always wrong to hate, it is not always wrong to hurt. Both are tempered by a discerning what is at stake, and both are necessary as a result of our creaturely status.


19 posted on 08/21/2026 10:36:45 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (/s/)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

<>the right to life has not been established as an enumerated power, as if it is not explicit enough when our Posterity is clearly an objective.<>

Yep. Roe constitutionalized a “right” to murder the next generation, our posterity.

Preposterous.

No posterity means no republic.

Clearly at odds with the Preamble and common sense.

Despite Dobbs, Scotus has inflicted enormous harm upon these United States.


20 posted on 08/21/2026 1:53:11 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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