Posted on 06/18/2026 8:54:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
According to a statement released by the University of York, analysis of grape seeds recovered from mud at the bottom of wells carved into the rock at the Etruscan and Roman site of Cetamura del Chianti suggests that vintners there cloned vines that produced white berries. Oya Inanli of the University of York said that a majority of the seeds in the study were dated to between 300 B.C. and A.D. 300 and belonged to this single variety of grape. After the Romans conquered central Italy, new varieties of grapes were introduced to the site. The study also showed that the Etruscan's white-berry variety was related to grapes grown in southern France, indicating that the Romans developed an agricultural trade network to standardize wine production. Another 2,000-year-old grape variety identified at Cetamura has been linked to grapes still grown today in Central and Eastern Europe, including a 400-year-old vine still producing fruit in Slovenia. Go the Journal of Archaeological Science to read the original academic paper describing the research. To read in-depth about Roman rites celebrating the god of wine, go to "Pompeii's House of Dionysian Delights."
(Excerpt) Read more at archaeology.org ...
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Grape pips, Cetamura del Chianti, ItalyCourtesy Nancy Thomson de Grummond
Swill the wine, date that girl. Wait, that doesn't sound quite right...
Just a note of thanks. Your posts show that FReepers aren’t just about politics and nothing but politics. You manage to find several interesting and out-of-the-way stories every day. You just hit a twofer with the Spanish helmets AND ancient Etruscan grapes.
Rush Limbaugh used to have a regular caller from “The Keepers of Odd Knowledge”. Your posts put you in that bracket, and we are all the better for it.
Show me the heavily oaked Bordeauxs....
If you can’t trust an Etruscan who can you trust?.........
I first encountered the Etruscans in the high school library in the early 70s, an article "The Etruscans: An Historic People Who Left No History". As I've gotten older and chubby, the old Roman pejorative *obesus Etruscus* has been resonating with me. 😊
Brigette Bordeaux might make a good screen name.
Thanks for the kind remarks! I managed to get a bit behind the past couple of weeks, what passes for regular life etc. I konked out in the recliner last night, fairly early, having the presence of mind to put the old (now a backup) CPAP on, and waking about 2 AM. Seemed like a good time to catch up with the Archaeology website, they had tons, including the two Etruscan articles. There's about three others about various tombs, a couple of Neolithic finds, and much more.
I don’t think they just disappeared, they were absorbed into the Roman culture early on................
Rome have been founded as a Etruscan settlement among Latins and Sabines. An introduced Etruscan line of kings suggests this, as do institutions and religious and other cultural elements of apparent Etruscan origin.
Etruscan stuck with what works. I do this but also try other ways. The Romans were growing wine grapes in England. Which is tricky these days.
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The pips without Gladys are just seedy...
“The pips without Gladys are just seedy...”
Here they are, w/o Gladys, on an old Richard Pryor show. Starting a little before Mark 2:50 is very funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP0bot4-qmM
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