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The British Used to Sound Like We Did
New York times ^ | 4th June 2026 | John McWhorter

Posted on 06/04/2026 9:49:12 PM PDT by Cronos

You might think that early Americans sounded like Anthony Hopkins and Helen Mirren, and that the American accent developed after independence. It was probably the other way around. Up until the early 1800s, you couldn’t tell whether a person was British or American from their accents. When naval officers tried to free sailors who had been shanghaied into service in the War of 1812, they said they couldn’t tell for sure who was American or British by the way they spoke.

The hallmark of the British accent — pronouncing words like “path” and “fast” as “pahth” and “fahst” or “fah” for “far.” — developed only at the end of the 18th century. English in the United States and Canada sound so much alike because their language started as British English in the 1700s. Australian English sounds much like today’s British English because by the time British people were sent there after the 1820s, what we know as a British accent had emerged.

All of this allows some informed guesses on what the American language will be like in the future. Plenty of words are teetering into new meanings, the way “sensible,” which once meant “sensitive,” now means “having good sense.” Usages that were once derided as misimpressions become so common that we come to accept them and admit that the horse is out of the barn. For Americans in 2076, the first meaning of “aesthetic” that comes to mind may well be “attractive,” the way many young people use it today. Any sense that “nonplussed” means “perplexed” will be forgotten in favor of the common impression today that it means “unimpressed.” And the most intuitive meaning of “swipe” will relate to computer screens rather than stealing or a movement of the hand.

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To: alexander_busek

Yeah, I despise that “I’m good” crapola too. And all the other examples you gave.


21 posted on 06/05/2026 4:05:35 AM PDT by yldstrk
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To: yldstrk

For me, the most annoying trend these days is every young person starting a sentence with the word “so”.


22 posted on 06/05/2026 4:10:35 AM PDT by sgt_lau (Islamophobic? No. I reject a 7th century death-cult that demands non-believers like me, dead.)
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To: Cronos

Iirc the western mountains of Maine and New Hampshire had the purest settler accents and words even 30 years ago.


23 posted on 06/05/2026 4:12:53 AM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: Cronos

The latest New International Version of Scripture turned the normal use of “he” to “he or she,” but even more egregiously, turned the individual use of “he/he or she” to corporate “they” - for no other reason than to be counted politically correct (while being unashamedly grammatically incorrect). The world is being dumbed down in so many ways; language is one facet of that.

We notice it, but can we stop it?


24 posted on 06/05/2026 4:21:19 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: Chickensoup
the western mountains of Maine and New Hampshire

That would be Vermont. (;

25 posted on 06/05/2026 4:23:10 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: sgt_lau

And saying, “of course”, or, “no problem” instead of “you’re welcome” when responding to a “thank you”.


26 posted on 06/05/2026 4:23:11 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: sgt_lau

Or “like.”


27 posted on 06/05/2026 4:24:08 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: Cronos

Eventually all black people will talk like Idris Elba.


28 posted on 06/05/2026 4:30:10 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (There is no gravity. The earth just sucks. )
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To: Cronos

Why have the letter “R” if you’re not going to use it?


29 posted on 06/05/2026 4:32:13 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: Cronos

I have one or two of Krugman’s early journal articles on economics. While I am not an economist, I have done quite a bit of work on urban environments. Krugman’s work from back then is often cited in that field.


30 posted on 06/05/2026 4:33:23 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: Cronos
Frankly, finding fault for freepers following flowery, fantastic, fascinating forms feels foolishly fussy.

Fabulous, fellow Freeper!

31 posted on 06/05/2026 4:36:59 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: sgt_lau
For me, the most annoying trend these days is every young person starting a sentence with the word “so”.

Me too. Sentences are supposed to start with "Hey..." Unless I'm asking a favor, and then it's "Say..."

32 posted on 06/05/2026 4:39:28 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: Cronos

I remember that some of the movie stars of the mid-century, like Katharine Hepburn, had more british-sounding English than we do today. My presumption was that the upper classes in the eastern cities took longer to lose the British accents than the rest of us did.


33 posted on 06/05/2026 4:50:32 AM PDT by NorthernDancer (“There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”)
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To: Cronos

Sometimes the British tendency to add the ‘fah’ sound makes listening almost impossible. There is a chick on the Formula One broadcasts that adds so much ‘..ah’ sound to her vocabulary as to make her vocalizations nearly unintelligible.


34 posted on 06/05/2026 4:56:37 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Election 2020 was stolen by mail-in voting. Mail-in voting and RCV counting should be abolished.)
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To: Cronos

I’m glad we don’t sound like the nutless cowardly retarded Brits now. What they let happen to their country is disgraceful. I can’t even listen to a British accent on TV anymore.


35 posted on 06/05/2026 4:57:52 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Death to the DEATH TO AMERICA, Democrats.)
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To: Cronos; Mears

Not finding any explication of the ebonic language spoken by the natives of Massachusetts.


36 posted on 06/05/2026 5:00:43 AM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: alexander_busek

Like, how are you handling it now? ;-D


37 posted on 06/05/2026 5:03:43 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: .30Carbine

“The latest New International Version of Scripture turned the normal use of “he” to “he or she,” but even more egregiously, turned the individual use of “he/he or she” to corporate “they”

Our pastor calls that the “Not Inspired Version”.


38 posted on 06/05/2026 5:04:05 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Deaf Smith

And don’t even get me started on how they say “zed” instead of Z. Glacier, aluminum, garage, advertisement, vitamin, controversy, and many others. Stop it!


39 posted on 06/05/2026 5:05:08 AM PDT by sgt_lau (Islamophobic? No. I reject a 7th century death-cult that demands non-believers like me, dead.)
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To: NorthernDancer

You’d be correct.

Both my NH Grandmother and my Prom date of 1961 used “cahn” and “cahn’t”. Grammy also used “shahn’t”. (shall/should not).

Then there’s “twenny”. (20).

And “Bea’ulls”, British singers with funny haircuts from the 60s.

Don’t rely on Vermont’s Senator (I-VT) for a Vermont accent.


40 posted on 06/05/2026 5:12:45 AM PDT by Does so (Book:"The Party of Death"...Dem☭he 4wed the ay¢rats ™ ® © ≣ ½da⅓⅔¼¾ ⅛⅜⅝⅞ ⅓ ⅕ ⅖ ⅗ ⅘ ⅙ ⅚)
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