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Linguistic evidence supports date for Homeric epics
Bioessays ^ | May 2013 | Eric Lewin Altschuler, Andreea S Calude, Andrew Meade, Mark Pagel

Posted on 02/10/2026 6:18:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Abstract
The Homeric epics are among the greatest masterpieces of literature, but when they were produced is not known with certainty. Here we apply evolutionary-linguistic phylogenetic statistical methods to differences in Homeric, Modern Greek and ancient Hittite vocabulary items to estimate a date of approximately 710-760 BCE for these great works. Our analysis compared a common set of vocabulary items among the three pairs of languages, recording for each item whether the words in the two languages were cognate - derived from a shared ancestral word - or not. We then used a likelihood-based Markov chain Monte Carlo procedure to estimate the most probable times in years separating these languages given the percentage of words they shared, combined with knowledge of the rates at which different words change. Our date for the epics is in close agreement with historians' and classicists' beliefs derived from historical and archaeological sources.

(Excerpt) Read more at pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; greek; hittite; homer; iliad; markovchain; montecarloprocedure

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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

The Markov chain Monte Carlo procedure — it’s something a Russian proctologist uses at the roulette wheel.


21 posted on 02/11/2026 5:13:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (TDS -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: sopo

Cool. All:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Alter


22 posted on 02/11/2026 5:26:46 AM PST by SunkenCiv (TDS -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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