[DFG]

Raytheon Hawker 800XP

[Red Badger]

2 minutes..............

[Texas Eagle]

"Pilots conducting stall checks should have prior experience in performing stalls in the Hawker and must be prepared for unacceptable stall behaviour at any point leading up to and throughout the manoeuvre,” the manual says.

Yyyeahhh. You'd think that would go without saying.

[PGalt]

Condolences to families and friends of those killed.

[Red Badger]

AVIATION ping.................. 😪

[E. Pluribus Unum]

My guess is the aircraft failed the stall test.

[sjmjax]

I’d like to know what were the unusual stall characteristics of the Hawker that made recovery so difficult.

It most civilian aircraft, stall recovery is a pretty simple process.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

You have to perform a stall test after any wing maintenance. What’s the logic behind that requirement?

And you have to hire a test pilot to do that test? Wow.

It’s shocking two experienced pilots could not handle the stall in ideal test conditions. How could they have handled a stall in normal biz jet operation with passengers?

[StACase]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yoj_85MDJc&t=36s

[P8riot]

The jet took off at 17:28 local time from Battle Creek Executive airport and climbed to 15,000ft, then at 17:27 “began a rapid descent”

I guess they shouldn't have installed the flux capacitor

[SkyDancer]

Fifteen K? I’d be up around 30 grand and ease into it Abrupt stall at 15k ????

[libertylover]

I’m surprised they couldn’t recover from a stall at 15,000 ft.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Pilots performing post-maintenance stall test killed as Raytheon Hawker 800XP crashes in Michigan

“After being unable to coordinate the stall test flight with a test pilot, the flight crew elected to perform the post-maintenance stall test themselves.”