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To: DFG

I’d like to know what were the unusual stall characteristics of the Hawker that made recovery so difficult.

It most civilian aircraft, stall recovery is a pretty simple process.


10 posted on 11/14/2025 9:20:13 AM PST by sjmjax
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To: sjmjax

Yes. Remind me to not fly a Hawker biz jet. Of course, I’ve never set foot in any biz jet and, at my age, unlikely to ever do so.


15 posted on 11/14/2025 9:36:06 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: sjmjax

Something else must hwve gone wrong like a flat spin.


21 posted on 11/14/2025 10:16:45 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: sjmjax

If I recall correctly, a high tail horizontal stabilizer makes recovering from a stall very challenging. As I can understand it, the wings prevent the high horizontal stabilizer from getting the air necessary for the elevators to rotate and point the nose down, which re-engages lift from the wings for stall recovery.

In a stall, there is insufficient air across the wings to create lift, so as the plane moves forward and the plane loses altitude the tops of the wings create a turbulent wash of air above and behind them, blocking the high horizontal stabilizer and elevators from “grabbing” air across the control surfaces.

My guess is that in this event, applying rudder would yaw and roll the plane, disrupt the turbulent wash across the tail and assist in recovery, but during the process, the altitude loss would be even faster than the stall. (Spitballing here)
This just my recollection and understanding.

Pilots will have to correct me where I’m in error...


27 posted on 11/14/2025 12:14:51 PM PST by Z28.310 (Overthinkers Annonymous suggestion; "Do not comply with others". ..especially NPD/BPD's)
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