Posted on 10/18/2025 8:43:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Live Science reports that a temple discovered in western Turkey may have been built by the Phrygians some 2,700 years ago. The temple is thought to have been dedicated to the Phrygian mother goddess known as Materan, Matar, and Cybele. Bilge Yılmaz Kolancı of Pamukkale University explained that the site features a cave with twin rock idols carved into the rock face between two structures. Libation bowls and drainage channels were also unearthed, she added. To read about another site in the region that the Phrygians once controlled, go to "Who Is That Masked God?"
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The Dark Age of Greece The Allies of Priam | Immanuel Velikovsky[snip] Phrygians are named as allies of Priam; also Ethiopians are counted among his allies. The identification of both these nations carries indications as to the century to which the most famous war of ancient times needs to be ascribed.
Of the Phrygians it is told that their origin stems from Thrace, north of Macedonia, west of the Hellespont. The time of their migration to Asia Minor is not known. No Phrygian antiquities from before the first half of the eighth century have been found... It seems that in one of the earliest waves of the eighth century migrations the Phrygians moved from Thrace over the Hellespont to Asia Minor...
Altogether the Phrygian kingdom in Asia Minor had a short duration. Already the Körte brothers, the early excavators of Gordion, noted that of the royal mounds (kurgans) only three could be dated before the Cimmerian invasion of the early seventh century which put an end to the Phrygian kingdom, and probably the number of royal successions did not exceed this number. Little is known of its history besides the fact that ca. -687 Gordion was overrun by the Cimmerians. [/snip]New Light on the Dark Age of Greece The Trojans and their Allies | Jan Sammer[snip] The Phrygian kingdom in Asia Minor had an ephemeral existence. As we saw, no Phrygian presence can be recognized in the archaeology till the beginning or even the middle of the eighth century -- and soon after the start of the seventh, about the year -676, the Phrygian kingdom was destroyed in the catastrophic Cimmerian invasion. This is also when Midas met his end and his capital Gordion was burned to the ground. Of the royal tumuli (kurgans) excavated by the Körte brothers, only three are antecedent to the Cimmerian invasion; this suggests that not more than three generations of kings reigned in Gordion from its founding to its destruction. [/snip]
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Any idea on how mutually intelligible phrygian was with ionian greek?
Give me a minor second, and I’ll figure it out.
Given how cheek-by-jowl speakers of different languages tended to live, and how much humans appear to have always engaged in commerce, there was probably a lot more bilingual and multilingual speakers in the ancient world. Both are in the I-E tree, but on different branches. Anatolia also had speakers of Carian (Herodotus grew up with that and Ionian Greek), Luwian, Lycian, Lydian, etc.
https://omniglot.com/writing/phrygian.htm
[snip] Phrygian was an Indo-European language related to Dacian and Thracian and belonging to the Paleo-Balkan branch of languages. It was spoken in Central Asia Minor until about the 5th century AD.
The earliest known inscriptions in Phyrgian date from the 8th century BC and were written in an alphabet derived from Phoenician. The language of these inscriptions is known as Paleo-Phrygian. Later inscriptions, in Neo-Phrygian, were written in a version of the Greek alphabet. [/snip]
https://omniglot.com/writing/greek.htm
[snip] Greek belongs to the Hellenic branch of the Indo-European language family... Today the Greek alphabet is used only to write Greek, however at various times in the past it has been used to write such languages as Lydian, Phrygian, Thracian, Gaulish, Hebrew, Arabic, Old Ossetic, Albanian, Turkish, Aromanian, Gagauz, Surguch and Urum. [/snip]
The History of Herodotus | Book II. The Second Book of the Histories, Called Euterpe | Translated Into English by G. C. Macaulay | Project Gutenberg Ebook 2707Now the Egyptians, before the time when Psammetichos 1 became king over them, were wont to suppose that they had come into being first of all men; but since the time when Psammetichos having become king desired to know what men had come into being first, they suppose that the Phrygians came into being before themselves, but they themselves before all other men.
Now Psammetichos, when he was not able by inquiry to find out any means of knowing who had come into being first of all men, contrived a device of the following kind: -- Taking two new-born children belonging to persons of the common sort he gave them to a shepherd to bring up at the place where his flocks were, with a manner of bringing up such as I shall say, charging him namely that no man should utter any word in their presence, and that they should be placed by themselves in a room where none might come, and at the proper time he should bring to them she-goats, and when he had satisfied them with milk he should do for them whatever else was needed. These things Psammetichos did and gave him this charge wishing to hear what word the children would let break forth first, after they had ceased from wailings without sense.
And accordingly so it came to pass; for after a space of two years had gone by, during which the shepherd went on acting so, at length, when he opened the door and entered, both the children fell before him in entreaty and uttered the word bekos, stretching forth their hands. At first when he heard this the shepherd kept silence; but since this word was often repeated, as he visited them constantly and attended to them, at last he declared the matter to his master, and at his command he brought the children before his face.
Then Psammetichos having himself also heard it, began to inquire about what nation of men named anything bekos, and inquiring he found that the Phrygians had this name for bread. In this manner and guided by an indication such as this, the Egyptians were brought to allow that the Phrygians were a more ancient people than themselves.
That was a peculiar experiment and an unusual finding.
It’s good to be pharaoh. 📜
Humans stay the same.
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