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After getting to know and fully understand the Ukraine/Russia Military and Economic situation and, after seeing the Economic trouble it is causing Russia…
Truth Social ^ | 9/23/2025 | Donald J Trump

Posted on 09/23/2025 12:06:06 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

After getting to know and fully understand the Ukraine/Russia Military and Economic situation and, after seeing the Economic trouble it is causing Russia, I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form. With time, patience, and the financial support of Europe and, in particular, NATO, the original Borders from where this War started, is very much an option. Why not? Russia has been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years a War that should have taken a Real Military Power less than a week to win. This is not distinguishing Russia. In fact, it is very much making them look like “a paper tiger.” When the people living in Moscow, and all of the Great Cities, Towns, and Districts all throughout Russia, find out what is really going on with this War, the fact that it’s almost impossible for them to get Gasoline through the long lines that are being formed, and all of the other things that are taking place in their War Economy, where most of their money is being spent on fighting Ukraine, which has Great Spirit, and only getting better, Ukraine would be able to take back their Country in its original form and, who knows, maybe even go further than that! Putin and Russia are in BIG Economic trouble, and this is the time for Ukraine to act. In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all!

DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA


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To: reasonisfaith
I don’t like choosing between Ukraine and Russia. The people of both are just normal people.

We are not fighting the Russian people. We are fighting (indirectly) an evil regime that controls Russia.

21 posted on 09/23/2025 12:34:32 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: Vermont Lt

Trump said sanctions will come when the Europeans stop buying Russian oil and gas.


22 posted on 09/23/2025 12:34:58 PM PDT by silverleaf (M:“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: silverleaf

Maybe if Russia started sending their sons from Moscow and St Petersburg this would end.

If I were Ukraine, I would be assassinating some Russian Oligarchs and their families in Europe. Maybe sink a few yachts.

Some Russian children need to die in order to get Russian Mothers to wake up.


23 posted on 09/23/2025 12:36:53 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: rdcbn1
Russia thinks they are winning and maybe they are.

Ukraine thinks they can hold out and maybe they can

In 1917, Germany looked pretty strong. They just knocked out Russia from WWI. Britain and France were having trouble holding on. This was before the American intervention in the war.

So at this point, no one knows who will win the war in Ukraine.

24 posted on 09/23/2025 12:37:18 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: marcusmaximus

Trump wants to be perceived as on the winning side, and now he sees that Ukraine can win this war.


25 posted on 09/23/2025 12:46:12 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: marcusmaximus

Where did you read this in either the US or Russian readouts? Yea, right. You’re the Guy who Quotes Gen. Traitor Miley about Kiev in 3 days over and over as if you actually believed it. You almost have to be paid to continue to post such lies and BS in support of Ukraine.

Until this Ukraine debacle, I’d never actually questioned the US involvement but after two coups in Ukraine in four years and Trump’s arming of the AFU to more than double it’s size during his first term, from 500k to 1m, everything coming out of Trump’s mouth is a half truth. The only truth he has spoke in his second term in regards to Ukraine is that now he is making money off the war. That’s not MAGA or conservative values, that’s the devil in the white house.


26 posted on 09/23/2025 12:46:57 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: marcusmaximus

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot


27 posted on 09/23/2025 12:49:54 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: silverleaf

Sounds lIke a subtle message to Russia to stop being a paper tiger and get it finished. No nobody with access to intel can believe the Ukrainians have to manpower to win, even with Europeans sending troops.

Europe can tolerate a lot fewer war dead than Zelensky’s people. Will they think the Donbas and Crimea are worth losing their sons and husbands?


Yes, because Europeans haven’t forgotten the last time a dictator started invading his neighboring countries. We apparently have.


28 posted on 09/23/2025 12:53:40 PM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king
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To: Bob Wills is still the king
Yes, because Europeans haven’t forgotten the last time a dictator started invading his neighboring countries. We apparently have.

Dictators are the norm to the Muslims running Europe.

29 posted on 09/23/2025 1:03:04 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: marcusmaximus

Putin will either see it is time to make a peace, or he will take the comments as a threat, and a threat he has to somehow counter to save face in Russia.

The question is will the Russian mobocracy (the KGB, FSB and the oligarchs) and the generals continue to go along with Putin.


30 posted on 09/23/2025 1:45:31 PM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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To: Lockbox

I agree. This is more than just Trump walking away. Considering unflattering comments about Putin, the Russian military and the Russian economy, it’s a veiled threat to Putin as well as a tacit approval of Europe becoming more directly involved in the fight.


31 posted on 09/23/2025 1:50:54 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Wuli

That’s the real issue for Putin at this point. It’s all about saving face. Trump has figured that out.


32 posted on 09/23/2025 1:52:02 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Translation: WE ARE NOT BALIMG YOU OUT AGAINEUROPE!


33 posted on 09/23/2025 2:19:54 PM PDT by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMEbRICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Jumper

Europe is paying us back, and patience of what we are truly owed for the blood and treasures we spent on there dumb wars.


34 posted on 09/23/2025 2:21:13 PM PDT by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMEbRICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: marcusmaximus

What a crock.


35 posted on 09/23/2025 2:33:21 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Mariner

That clause that stipulates that in case of an attack on one, everyone will pitch in...carries no obligation for military aid of any kind. A “we’re with you” note is sufficient.


36 posted on 09/23/2025 2:42:49 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Jumper

Now he can quote President Trump “Everyone thought Russia would win this war in three days” – “but it didn’t work out that way.”


37 posted on 09/23/2025 4:35:29 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: silverleaf
With our experience in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, we know how real military powers wrap wars up quickly


Vietnam - Hamstrung by congress (Democrats). Ended by Nixon.


Iraq - Hamstrung by Bushite neo-cons (that we're now getting rid of).


Afghanistan - Hamstrung by Bush and Obama (and neocons).

38 posted on 09/23/2025 6:31:28 PM PDT by Negan
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To: Negan

Vietnam: Communist victory. Millions purged reeducated or died trying to flee.

Afghanistan: Taliban Harsh Islamist fundamentalist victory. $80 Billion est US weapons and infrastrucure abandoned by US. Humanitarian situation: Half the population( female) denied basic human rights, Ditto above.

Iraq: Since Bush 43 WMD seek and find invasion: The Economist Intelligence Unit rated Iraq an “authoritarian regime” in 2023.[1] The Regimes of the World index rated Iraq 2024 an electoral autocracy.[2] Major customer for its oil is China.

Medals awarded to US Generals for serving in these wars to save democracy: innumerable. Many are Same Generals now advising Trump on Ukraine.


39 posted on 09/24/2025 8:30:00 AM PDT by silverleaf (M:“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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