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On this date in 1812
https://www.history.navy.mil/today-in-history/august-8.html ^

Posted on 08/19/2025 5:42:02 AM PDT by Bull Snipe

The frigate Constitution, under the command of Captain Isaac Hull, engages the British frigate Guerriere in the waters off the Gulf of St. Lawrence, Canada. The British vessel opens fire first and many of its shots bounce off the side of the American frigate, whose crew bestows upon it the famous name “Old Ironsides.” Drawing abreast of one another, the two ships exchange broadsides. Within 30 minutes, Guerriere is a dismasted hulk. Her captain strikes its colors, giving Constitution and the young nation of the United States a stirring victory.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: captainisaachull; georgialiveoak; godsgravesglyphs; guerriere; oldironsides; ussconstitution; waron1812

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1 posted on 08/19/2025 5:42:02 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xCl2WnbIeSI&pp=0gcJCf8Ao7VqN5tD


2 posted on 08/19/2025 5:45:43 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Bull Snipe

When I’m up in the northeast I sometimes drive to Boston just to walk on the USS Constitution. Imagine how much havoc the Constitution would have done if Decatur had commanded it for more than a few days.


3 posted on 08/19/2025 5:54:03 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Bull Snipe

On this date in 1812...it was August 19th...............


4 posted on 08/19/2025 5:56:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Bull Snipe

The War of 1812 is sometimes called the second American revolution.


5 posted on 08/19/2025 5:59:22 AM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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To: Bull Snipe
"Ships of Oak, Guns of Iron" by Ronald Utt is a must-read.
6 posted on 08/19/2025 6:24:57 AM PDT by Captain Walker ("Justice exalteth a nation: but sin maketh nations miserable." – Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Bull Snipe

“shots bounce off .... named Old Ironsides.” It was made of Live Oak which is in neither the white oak family nor red oak family. Live oak is about 50% more dense than either the other two oak families. It grows in the southern US.


7 posted on 08/19/2025 6:46:17 AM PDT by jimfr
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To: SunkenCiv

PING


8 posted on 08/19/2025 7:08:45 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Bull Snipe

bttt


9 posted on 08/19/2025 7:43:35 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: Tennessee Nana; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks Tennessee Nana. Sometime back when I was still young and pretty, I toured it, walked the deck. listened to the guide describe some of the nicknames given to the guns, visited the capt's quarters. I think the restoration and refit was done after that, so I'd like to visit again.

10 posted on 08/19/2025 7:54:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: Bull Snipe

Later, Constitution would sink the frigate HMS Java as well.

Constitution was called a frigate, but her scantlings and weight of metal (44 x 24 pounders) were more like that of a ship-of-the-line.


11 posted on 08/19/2025 8:14:27 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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12 posted on 08/19/2025 8:53:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: Bull Snipe

The first shots from the Guerriere were undercharged, so, of course they bounced off. Against a European frigate, an undercharge would have the shot go through the first bulkhead, and then bounce around inside causing mayhem and death. A full charge even at distance would go through one side and then out the other, causing damage, but, not as bad.

It was too late after that, the Consitution’s Oak was better than the Brits at close range and the American Frigate, being a bigger ship, with more guns, won the day. Even after a fierce boarding action!


13 posted on 08/19/2025 9:29:27 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (Conan the Sailing Librarian)
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To: Conan the Librarian

Also, the Americans followed the French tactic of firing on the up roll into the rigging. The RN practiced firing on the down roll into the hull.


14 posted on 08/19/2025 9:57:54 AM PDT by Bull Snipe (girls)
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To: Bull Snipe

100%


15 posted on 08/19/2025 11:24:30 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (Conan the Sailing Librarian)
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To: SunkenCiv

Years ago my 10 yo granddaughter and I toured the Constitution

She had a blast and it was fun just watching her understand we had such a history

The Constitution is still a commissioned ship and to keep that status she has to move at least once a year

Every 4th of July they take her up the river and back

People used to be able to apply for a lottery ticket to be a passenger


16 posted on 08/19/2025 5:05:37 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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