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Posted on 07/20/2025 6:46:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Not buying it.
The next theory is that it was either set in Africa, or based on an African tale.
Egg heads being egg heads.
https://faimao.blogspot.com/2024/09/i-watched-documentary-on-illiad-and.html
Knowing the braindead lefties, that won’t be so far off.
Years ago I remember reading a similar article but only remember one point. There was something about floating rocks in the Odyssey actually being ice. I read the Odyssey 65 years ago so I don’t remember details like that. It was one of my favorites.
Next they’ll claim Hamlet was set in Denmark.
If the passage is taken as referring to a solar eclipse, Scandinavia had them in 1169 BC, then not another for another century. They had had them in 1185 BC, 1230 and 1239 BC.
I’m not sure if any of them fit the other clues.
Whoever believes that will also have to believe that the Baltic was much warmer in ancient times than today.
Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
Nobody ever mentions Homer's last name, either. It was Simpson. And the only place I can see matching all of his geographical descriptions is Texas. Ulysses was really from San Antonio. If you've ever staggered along the River Walk there you'll agree.
Edo Nyland (sp?) advocated this waaaaay back in the 1990s. Spoiler alert, the answer's no. If memory serves, I first learned of this thanks to a different guy who claimed Homer's events had actually happened in Scotland instead.
What the article fails to mention is some recent evidence of climatic differences at that time. If we presume the Trojan war to be around 3200 BC, there is recent evidence that prior to that time there was significantly more rainfall in and around Anatolia, which would have resulted in much more vegetation. Historians looking at events leading up to the Bronze Age Collapse now believe that rainfall-driven agriculture was much more widespread and relied-upon due to the greater rainfall at that time.
From sediment cores in the Mediterranean, there’s also recent evidence of a sharp cooling trend right before the Bronze Age Collapse, which would have resulted in a sudden drop in rainfall due to much lower evaporation from the seas. There are Cuneiform tablets detailing pleas for food shipments from places in Anatolia (i.e. Hittite Empire) because of crop failures. It’s now thought that famines from that cooling trend might have precipitated the warfare that led to the collapse. Only the Egyptians managed to survive it, mainly because they had the Nile river to rely upon, but there’s evidence that even the Nile was affected by the sudden drop in rainfall and it resulted in Egyptian civil unrest. The Egyptians never fully recovered.
As for the Trojan War, my thinking is that if it actually happened, perhaps it was one of the first symptoms of the impending Bronze Age Collapse. If the cooling trend had already begun and rainfall had dropped off, it’s not a great stretch to envision Myceneans warring with one another when lack of food began to stress their civilization, the first ripples in a tide that eventually consumed nearly everyone in the eastern Mediterranean.
Correction: 1200 BC, 3200 years ago.
You're probably thinking of the "planctae" ("drifting" or "clashing" rocks) - Odysseus encounters them after passing Scylla and Charybdis.
Circe warns Odysseus, explaining that they're the same ones which Jason and the Argonauts encountered during their (earlier) adventures.
The Symplegades .
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King David (around 1000 BC) used the famed cedar trees of Lebanon to build the temple. I just read that some king in 200AD noticed the depletion of the trees and decreed a ban on cutting them. (It didn’t last long). The forests were huge at one time.
Like trying to figure out where the Hobbit takes place.
On a side note, just re-read the Odyssey earlier this year - more fun than when I had to read it in high school 50+ years ago.
Um, not exactly so. They once thought Troy was fiction. It’s something like historical fiction, but that is an anachronistic category.
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