Posted on 06/24/2025 1:39:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
After spending decades listening for radio signals, Optical SETI has made a remarkable discovery!
Repeating optical signals have been detected coming, not from one star, but three!
Natural explanations have come up blank, and Aliens are actually being discussed! SETI breakthrough! NASA scientist discovers three repeating ET signals coming from nearby stars! | 19:57
The Angry Astronaut | 195K subscribers | 11,074 views | June 24, 2025
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--> YouTube-Generated Transcript <-- 0:03 · for decades scientific projects like 0:05 · SETI have been looking for evidence of 0:08 · extraterrestrial civilizations but now 0:11 · we have learned that perhaps they've 0:13 · been looking for the wrong thing since 0:16 · the beginning SETI has concluded or at 0:19 · least some scientists at SETI have 0:21 · believed that the most likely way that 0:24 · extraterrestrial civilizations would 0:26 · communicate with one another is 0:28 · utilizing the same technologies that we 0:30 · use that is to say narrowband radio 0:34 · transmissions however in February of 0:36 · this year NASA received a laser message 0:39 · from a spacecraft in deep space spanning 0:43 · 16 million kilometers however this 0:46 · signal did not originate from an 0:48 · extraterrestrial civilization or an 0:51 · alien spacecraft or anything along those 0:54 · lines but a NASA spacecraft on its way 0:57 · to the asteroid belt called Psyche 1:00 · unlike traditional radio signals this 1:03 · transmission came from advanced 1:05 · technology called the deep space optical 1:08 · communications experiment or dock which 1:11 · utilizes near infrared lasers to send 1:14 · data at speeds 10 to 100 times faster 1:17 · than conventional methods that NASA has 1:20 · used in the past so of course it has 1:23 · occurred to SETI and organizations like 1:25 · them indeed it occurred to them quite 1:28 · some time ago that alien civilizations 1:31 · might use a similar technology to 1:33 · transmit information as opposed to using 1:36 · outdated radio communications and thus 1:39 · was born optical SETI and after an 1:43 · extensive survey of the sky well one of 1:47 · several a particular survey has turned 1:49 · up something quite fascinating a 1:52 · repeating signal not from one star but 1:55 · two signals that have completely defied 1:58 · all natural explanation and may finally 2:02 · be definitive evidence that we are not 2:05 · alone in the universe 2:12 · good afternoon alien enthusiasts and 2:14 · welcome to another angry alien bulletin 2:18 · for decades the entire philosophy behind 2:22 · SETI's search for extraterrestrial 2:25 · intelligence that is to say when they 2:28 · have the money to invest in these sorts 2:31 · of searches is to look for radio signals 2:35 · narrow beam powerful radio signals and 2:38 · that tend to only come from artificial 2:41 · sources and also to look for those radio 2:45 · signals on specific frequencies that 2:48 · have to do with scientific principles 2:50 · that just about any intelligent species 2:53 · would understand for example radio 2:56 · frequency associated with hydrogen the 2:58 · so-called hydrogen line this of course 3:02 · is something that any intelligent 3:04 · civilization would understand because 3:06 · hydrogen is the most common element in 3:08 · the universe or perhaps a frequency 3:11 · associated with the hydrogen line say 3:14 · the hydrogen line frequency times pi 3:17 · both of which of course would be 3:19 · concepts that any civilization would 3:22 · understand or perhaps the square root of 3:25 · the hydrogen line something that should 3:29 · be understandable for just about any 3:32 · civilization that understands the basics 3:34 · of the universe and the basics of 3:36 · mathematics but still there's no 3:38 · guarantee that intelligent civilizations 3:41 · would use radio frequencies to 3:44 · communicate i mean sure it makes a lot 3:46 · of sense to us to use these sorts of 3:49 · things but is that the sort of medium 3:52 · that every civilization would make use 3:55 · of might there be other alternatives 3:58 · well this is what a specific project uh 4:02 · associated with SETI known as optical 4:05 · SETI decided to pursue to look for 4:08 · potential laser communications 4:11 · throughout the cosmos as a matter of 4:13 · fact we humans are now using lasers to 4:17 · transfer information over vast distances 4:20 · our current probe that we have heading 4:22 · out to the asteroid belt has been 4:25 · testing this type of technology and so 4:27 · far it's been working out very well 4:29 · however to be able to communicate 4:32 · information over enormous distances 4:35 · light years and light years you would 4:37 · need to have incredibly powerful lasers 4:41 · that can outshine suns and not only that 4:45 · these lasers would also have to be very 4:47 · specifically targeted if you say wanted 4:50 · to send a communication from some sort 4:53 · of distant star say 50 light years away 4:56 · to Earth let's say that aliens decided 4:58 · that they wanted to try to communicate 5:00 · with us well they would have to be 5:02 · really precisely on target because it 5:06 · would take 50 years for the signal to 5:08 · get from their star to ours and it would 5:11 · have to be a very narrow beam laser 5:14 · meaning that they would have to account 5:16 · for the movement of our solar system the 5:19 · movement of Earth in its orbit around 5:21 · the sun etc if you tried to use a laser 5:25 · with a wider beam that would have a 5:28 · larger area of detection well the amount 5:31 · of energy that would be required to 5:33 · power a beam that bright and that big 5:36 · would be just about impossible to 5:38 · accomplish it would require more power 5:40 · than all of human civilization has 5:44 · combined to generate a laser that 5:46 · powerful so really when it comes down to 5:49 · it optical SETI has been looking for two 5:52 · things number one a laserlike beam of 5:55 · light or just an extremely bright burst 5:58 · of light that can outshine a star but is 6:01 · a very brief thing things in nature you 6:05 · very seldom get something that only 6:06 · lasts a few seconds in nature something 6:09 · that bright supernova or a sudden 6:12 · brightening of a star those sorts of 6:14 · things last for days or weeks not just a 6:18 · few seconds but in addition to that they 6:21 · also want the signal to repeat that has 6:24 · been a frustrating requirement of SETI 6:28 · in order to confirm the artificial or 6:31 · intelligent origin of this sort of 6:33 · signal it has to repeat well guess what 6:37 · just recently that is to say a few weeks 6:40 · ago a paper came out from Optical SETI 6:42 · confirming that they had indeed found 6:45 · something just like that 6:50 · the paper in question concerns the 6:52 · results of a multi-year survey of more 6:55 · than 1300 sunlike stars for optical SETI 7:00 · signals and veteran NASA scientist 7:03 · Richard A stanton was behind this 7:05 · project dr stanton is a veteran of 7:08 · NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory whose 7:11 · work includes participating in the 7:13 · Voyager missions and serving as the 7:15 · engineering manager of the Gravity 7:17 · Recovery and Climate Experiment or Grace 7:20 · mission since retiring he has dedicated 7:23 · himself to the search for 7:25 · extraterrestrial intelligence utilizing 7:27 · the 76.2 2 cm telescope at the Shea 7:32 · Meadow Observatory in Big Bear 7:34 · California and a multi-channel 7:36 · photometer that he designed the paper 7:39 · describing his surveys findings is 7:42 · linked in the description for years 7:44 · Stanton has used these instruments to 7:46 · observe more than 1300 sunlike stars for 7:50 · optical SETI signals and as I mentioned 7:52 · before optical SETI looks for pulses of 7:55 · light that could result from laser 7:57 · communications or directed energy arrays 8:00 · such as project starshot that will 8:03 · utilize an array of high energy lasers 8:06 · to push probes or laser sails that is up 8:10 · to speeds approaching that of the speed 8:12 · of light now this study traces its roots 8:15 · to a 1961 study by Dr schwarz and Towns 8:19 · and they reasoned that the best way an 8:21 · extraterrestrial intelligence or ETI 8:24 · could send an optical signal that 8:27 · outshone their star would be with 8:29 · intense nancond laser pulses other 8:32 · optical SETI searches look for signals 8:35 · in infrared wavelengths high resolution 8:38 · spectra or visible light as Stanton 8:41 · related to Universe Today via email his 8:44 · said he searched differs from 8:46 · conventional optical surveys quote "My 8:48 · approach is to stare at a single star 8:51 · for roughly 1 hour using photon counting 8:54 · to sample the stars light at what is 8:57 · considered to be a very high time 8:59 · resolution for astronomy 100 microscond 9:03 · samples the resulting time series are 9:05 · then searched for pulses and optical 9:08 · tones the instrument uses readily 9:10 · available off-the-shelf components that 9:13 · can be assembled into PCbased systems 9:16 · after years of searching Stanton noticed 9:18 · an unexpected signal on May the 14th 9:21 · 2023 while observing star HD89389 9:27 · an F-Type star slightly brighter and 9:30 · more massive than our sun located in the 9:33 · constellation Ursa Major otherwise known 9:36 · as the Big Dipper according to Stanton's 9:39 · paper this signal consisted of two fast 9:43 · identical pulses 4.4 seconds apart that 9:47 · were not revealed in previous searches 9:49 · he then ran comparisons against signals 9:52 · produced by airplanes satellites meteors 9:55 · lighting atmospheric scentilation system 9:58 · noise and other possible mundane 10:01 · explanations as he explained several 10:04 · things about the pulses detected around 10:06 · HD 89389 10:09 · made them unique from anything else seen 10:12 · previously first of all the star gets 10:14 · brighter and fainter and brighter and 10:17 · then returns to its ambient level all in 10:20 · about 2 seconds this variation is much 10:24 · too strong to be caused by random noise 10:27 · or atmospheric turbulence how do you 10:30 · make a star over a million kilometers 10:32 · across partially disappear in a tenth of 10:35 · a second the source of this variation 10:38 · can't be as far away as the star itself 10:41 · number two in all three events two 10:45 · essentially identical pulses are seen 10:47 · separated by between 1.2 and 4.4 seconds 10:51 · a third event found in an observation on 10:54 · January 18th of this year was not 10:57 · included in this paper but it adds even 10:59 · more fascinating data to this study but 11:02 · in over 1,500 hours of searching no 11:06 · single pulse resembling these has ever 11:09 · been detected number three the fine 11:12 · structure in the stars light between the 11:14 · peaks of the first pulse repeats almost 11:17 · exactly in the second pulse 4.4 seconds 11:20 · later no one knows how to explain this 11:23 · behavior and number four nothing was 11:26 · detected moving near the star in 11:28 · simultaneous photography or in the 11:31 · background sensor that easily detects 11:33 · distant satellites moving close to a 11:36 · target star common signals from 11:38 · airplanes satellites meteors birds etc 11:42 · are all completely different from these 11:44 · pulses now of course all of this is 11:47 · pretty interesting an F-class star is 11:50 · bigger and hotter than our G-class star 11:53 · but located about 100 light years away 11:57 · so sort of a promising area to look for 12:00 · an intelligent civilization but not 12:02 · necessarily perfect but Stanton decided 12:06 · that it would be a good idea to 12:08 · re-examine historical data for similar 12:10 · signals and guess what he found another 12:13 · pair of pulses detected around star 12:16 · HD217014 12:19 · which is also known as 51 Pegasy on 12:23 · September 30th 2019 12:26 · this is a much closer main sequence 12:29 · G-type star this isn't just a similar 12:33 · star to ours it's almost precisely the 12:36 · same and it's located about 50.6 light 12:39 · years away as I said similar in size 12:42 · mass and age in 1995 12:46 · astronomers at the Oservatto de Hal 12:49 · Province detected an exoplanet orbiting 12:52 · this star a hot gas giant that has since 12:55 · been named Deidium this is one of the 12:58 · first exoplanets ever detected and was 13:01 · the first time an exoplanet was 13:03 · discovered around a main sequence star 13:06 · and of course where there's one planet 13:08 · there's probably more and at the time 13:11 · incredibly enough the signal was 13:13 · dismissed as a false positive caused by 13:16 · birds however a detailed analysis ruled 13:19 · out this possibility completely for all 13:22 · of the pulses observed other 13:24 · possibilities that Stanton explored 13:26 · included refraction caused by Earth's 13:29 · atmosphere possibly due to some kind of 13:31 · shock wave however this is highly 13:34 · unlikely since shock waves would have to 13:36 · occur with perfect timing to coincide 13:39 · with all three optical pulses and three 13:43 · identical optical pulses by the way with 13:46 · three identical shock waves in the 13:48 · atmosphere not very likely other 13:51 · possibilities include starlight 13:53 · defraction by a distant body in the 13:55 · solar system partial eclipses caused by 13:58 · Earth satellites or distant asteroids an 14:01 · edge defraction by a straight edge as 14:03 · described by the so-called Somerfeld 14:06 · effect and there's also the possibility 14:08 · that a gravity wave could have generated 14:10 · these pulses although this is a 14:12 · phenomena that we don't really 14:14 · understand but it still requires 14:17 · additional consideration but of course 14:19 · another interesting possibility and it's 14:22 · amazing to hear mainstream scientists 14:25 · talk this way is that it could be the 14:27 · result of extraterrestrial intelligence 14:30 · as Stanton indicated whatever modulated 14:33 · these stars light must be relatively 14:36 · close to Earth indicating that any ETI 14:39 · activity must be within our solar system 14:42 · moreover similar pulses have since been 14:45 · observed from another sunlike star 14:47 · located 81 light years from Earth 14:50 · HD12051 14:53 · and January 18th 2025 14:56 · to explain all three occurrences stanton 15:00 · stresses that more data is needed quote 15:03 · none of these explanations are really 15:05 · satisfying at this point we don't know 15:08 · what kind of object could produce these 15:10 · pulses or how far away it is we don't 15:13 · know if the two pulse signal is produced 15:15 · by something passing between us and the 15:18 · star or if it's generated by something 15:20 · that modulates the stars light without 15:23 · moving across the field until we learn 15:26 · more we can't even say whether or not 15:28 · extraterrestrials are involved but once 15:30 · again I find it very very interesting 15:33 · that they're talking this way at all but 15:36 · after exploring many many mundane 15:39 · explanations and coming up blank across 15:42 · the spectrum the paper concludes thusly 15:45 · quote "How are two nearly identical 15:48 · pulses generated separated by a 15:50 · relatively long interval of unaffected 15:53 · starlight the fact that these pulses 15:56 · have been detected only in pairs must 15:58 · surely be a clue as to their origin how 16:01 · can the two detected events separated by 16:04 · years and from seemingly random 16:07 · directions in the sky be so similar to 16:10 · each other whatever is found those 16:12 · speculating that our best chance of 16:14 · finding evidence of extraterrestrial 16:16 · intelligence lies within our own solar 16:19 · system might have much to ponder and 16:22 · when we're talking about our own solar 16:24 · system what if these pulses coming from 16:27 · seemingly random directions in the 16:29 · universe are not coming from random 16:32 · locations at all what if there's 16:35 · something about these signals that are 16:38 · specifically targeted towards us and 16:41 · further examination might reveal what 16:44 · they're actually trying to say and if 16:46 · they're expecting some sort of reply not 16:49 · necessarily from us 16:55 · intriguing stuff isn't it but 16:57 · unfortunately I have a feeling that like 17:00 · so many intriguing discoveries that have 17:02 · been made over the last several decades 17:05 · the scientific community is just going 17:06 · to let this one go they're not going to 17:08 · be able to find any sort of rational 17:12 · logical natural explanation for it so 17:15 · they're not of course going to say that 17:17 · this seems to be a really good candidate 17:20 · for something that originates from an 17:22 · extraterrestrial civilization instead 17:25 · they won't come to any solid conclusion 17:27 · they'll simply say "Oh most probably 17:29 · it's some sort of natural phenomenon 17:31 · that we don't understand." and then 17:32 · they'll just move on to something else 17:35 · instead of dedicating the necessary time 17:38 · the observation time focusing on these 17:41 · relatively nearby stars for a long 17:44 · period of time to confirm whether or not 17:46 · these signals might reappear again and 17:50 · again and interestingly enough if we 17:53 · spot these sorts of signals happening 17:55 · repeatedly what are they doing they 17:58 · trying to get our attention or might 18:01 · they be communicating with somebody else 18:04 · within our solar system somebody that 18:07 · they dispatched decades ago to check us 18:09 · out and now they're trying to get more 18:12 · information or issue instructions to 18:15 · their colleagues who are already here by 18:19 · the way folks in case you haven't 18:21 · noticed we got a new shirt here although 18:23 · this shirt has been around for a while 18:25 · check it out it is our Amua Mua merch 18:33 · i love this design guys it's absolutely 18:37 · fantastic and finally got it delivered 18:39 · to me personally but unfortunately the 18:41 · store closes on the 26th and although 18:45 · there has been an increase in Amuam Mua 18:47 · sales lately so I have a feeling that we 18:49 · probably will be able to offer it again 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All righty then...
No “Drink you Ovaltine” posts yet. This place is slacking.
They just decoded the messages. All they say is “Its a Cookbook”!
Whatever they want, the answer is No.
Hypothesis — The signal is coming from inside the house. ;)
CRYSTALLINE_STRUCTURES_ACTING_AS_CORNER_REFLECTORS_PING!
All your base are belong to us.
A good friend of mine, an astrophysicist specializing in radio astronomy, ran the big telescope in Puerto Rico that was in the James Bond movie.
He did this for the Seti project.
He explained to me that they often recorded unusual signal patterns, but the problem was that they did not repeat with consistency.
Unfortunately, we buried him this past year as he would love to hear this news release.
Ping me when they are transmitting prime numbers...and transporter plans on the sub harmonic.
Whatever they are selling, the answer is No!
If it is intelligently based, it is more likely some sort of GPS system.
I cannot imagine an interstellar civilization using a system of radio waves to communicate across large distances. The effectiveness of such systems would quickly diminish as the recipients get farther apart.
My bet is that it is some kind of natural thing.
They want to serve us - that’s good, right?
It’s a Burma Shave advert.
(I cannot imagine an interstellar civilization using a system of radio waves to communicate across large distances.)
Vger used radio waves searching for its creator.
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