Astronomers Have Found the First Prime Candidate for Planet 9...
But It's in the Wrong Place | 16:00
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Astronomers Have Found the First Prime Candidate for Planet 9...
But It's in the Wrong Place | 16:00
Territory | 61.3K subscribers | 319,090 views | May 19, 2025
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It started with a speck. Just a faint dot in two separate sky surveys, one from 1983, the other from 2006. At first glance, it's nothing remarkable. But if astronomers are right, this unassuming blip might be a colossal discovery: the elusive, long-hypothesized Planet Nine.
The new candidate object shows a shift of 47 arcminutes across 23 years, an incredibly slow movement that suggests it could be orbiting the Sun from great distance. Its infrared brightness implies a mass possibly exceeding Neptune's.
But there's a catch: its orbital tilt doesn't match predictions. Mike Brown himself reviewed the findings and cast doubt, noting that this object's extreme tilt (around 120 degrees) doesn't align with the expected orbit of Planet Nine.
Still, even if this isn't the planet astronomers have been chasing, it's something. And in the vast, dim reaches beyond Neptune, even a false lead can point us toward deeper truths.
"To Pluto And Far Beyond" By David H. Levy, Parade, January 15, 2006 -- We don't have a dictionary definition yet that includes all the contingencies. In the wake of the new discovery, however, the International Astronomical Union has set up a group to develop a workable definition of planet. For our part, in consultation with several experienced planetary astronomers, Parade offers this definition: A planet is a body large enough that, when it formed, it condensed under its own gravity to be shaped like a sphere. It orbits a star directly and is not a moon of another planet. The Nine Planets search results
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We had nine planets at one time.
I sometimes wonder if things like the retrograde-rotation of Venus, the presence of the Asteroid Belt, the extreme axial tilt of Uranus, and the out-of-plane orbit of Pluto might be artifacts (at least in part) of the passage of another solar system passing through or extremely close by our own.
There are theories that do suggest Venus was a captured planet.
An assembly of astronomers changed the definition of what a planet is before Pluto could complete its first observed orbit.
…But I’m pretty sure you knew that! 🙂
Plan 9 From Outer Space—Evil aliens attack Earth and set their terrible “Plan 9” into action.
As the aliens resurrect the dead of the Earth, the lives of the living are in danger.
Possibly the most benighted movie ever made.
I sometimes wonder if things like the retrograde-rotation of Venus, the presence of the Asteroid Belt, the extreme axial tilt of Uranus, and the out-of-plane orbit of Pluto might be artifacts (at least in part) of the passage of another solar system passing through or extremely close by our own.
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See the Tom Van Flandern [ American astronomer (1940–2009) ] hypothesis where one or two previous planets exploded creating the solar system we see now. [ Which solar system BTW is an anomaly in the observed planetary configurations in other solar systems where the large planets are closest to their suns. ]
There are theories that do suggest Venus was a captured planet.
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See Immanuel Velikovsky who predicted the Venus was ejected from Jupiter and also correctly predicted the conditions of the planet’s atmosphere. [ This at a time when mainstream astronomers were speculating that under its clouds was a tropical world. ]
His ideas were soundly, despite hard verified scientific evidence to the contrary, rejected because mainstream science is based on Gradualism, not the Catastrophism used by Velikovsky.
“We had nine planets at one time.”
Waiting for them to regrade my third grade report on the nine planets and retroactively strip my diploma.
Meanwhile, why don’t we name the new one; I’m thinking Myanus.
A deus ex machina idea in some form has been suggested a number of times, but until more things like Oumuamua are found, resistance to such ideas will *not* be futile.
Until the SL-9 impacts on Jupiter in 1994 (last July was the 30th anniversary), even the energy of large impacts was denied. Hazards from space, actually just the idea of them, makes people in and out of the sciences uneasy and at times irrational.
Aristotle developed the syllogism, which is an important part of the scientific method -- but he also stated flatly that, not only do stones not fall from the sky, but anyone who claimed to have seen one fall was the ancient Greek equivalent of trailer trash.
I suspect that whatever large body is found out there, it'll be well out of the ecliptic, perhaps even well on the way to being perpendicular to it. If so, it probably didn't form there, and hasn't been there all that long.
More and more talk of brown dwarves and such make me think that the “vast voids” of space are actually chock full of drifting planets, planetoids, neutron stars, white dwarfs, etc...which would also make up for all the “missing mass” that requires us to start using things like dark matter, etc
Planets don't explode. They may crash into other celestial objects throwing off debris however, leaving a small remnant to re-accrete.
The ‘dark matter’ and ‘missing mass’ stuff was born of the formation models. But there are rogue planets, wandering around without stars, possibly because their stars went kablooey. :^)
https://freerepublic.com/tag/rogueplanet/index?tab=articles
Planets don’t explode.
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How do you know? Have you inside information as to the composition and make up of this solar system 200 million years ago? Or are you just winging it with wild guesses. TVF had evidence, if you cared to look, but you won’t.
Because gravity doesn't just disappear. Try it some time. Off a tall building.
So you have inside info on how the solar system worked 200 million years ago? No scientist would dare to make such a claim. You should write a paper and publish it in some prestigious scientific journal - you will be famous!! And rich from your books, lectures, TV and podcast appearances. Go for it!!
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