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Dammi Israeli: The Genetic Origins of the Palestinians
Times of Israel ^ | 27th December 2025 | Jonathan Kohan

Posted on 05/21/2025 11:05:05 AM PDT by Cronos

The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is being approached incorrectly. This is because Palestinians are not Arab. They are culturally arabized Jews/Israelites.

I am not the first person to hold this position. Both the first President of the state of Israel Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, and the Prime Minister David Ben Gurion, believed that the Palestinians were descended from Jews. David Ben-Gurion wrote several books and articles on the subject and even created a task force with Moshe Dayan to “Judaize” the Bedouins. As war and conflict continued this idea was eventually abandoned. At the time there was no way to really know. However, genetics has progressed incredibly far, and we now know that Ben Gurion was largely correct. Palestinian fellahin are the descendants of the Jews and more broadly Israelites who survived the Roman conquest.

I accidentally fell into this story. I am a Persian-Jew and a few years ago I decided to take a genetic test. Much to my surprise, the test indicated that I was genetically Lebanese. This confused me as I thought Lebanese were Arabs. As a naturally curious person I began to investigate the genetics of the Middle East. Through this process I discovered that most of the Middle East is not Arab, but rather indigenous peoples who are culturally arabized. For example, the Lebanese are largely just arabized Phoenicians. Lebanon is right next to Israel, which is partially why the test plotted me as Lebanese. This then immediately raised the question, what about the Palestinians?

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: arabs; genealogy; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; israel; palestine; palestinians; romanempire

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The English are Anatolian Neolithic Farmer: 47.6% European Hunter-Gatherer: 44.2 Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer: 8.2% (Yes, the English are majority Middle Eastern go figure).

The French are Anatolian Neolithic Farmer: 59.0% European Hunter-Gatherer: 31.0% Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer: 10.0% (French are a supermajority Middle Eastern).

The Persians are Zagros Neolithic Farmer: 36.8% Anatolian Neolithic Farmer: 28.0% Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer: 14.2% Natufian Hunter-Gatherer: 9.0% European Hunter-Gatherer: 8.8% Ancient Ancestral South Indian: 1.6%Baikal Hunter-Gatherer: 1.4% Jomon Hunter-Gatherer: 0.2% (very mixed).

1 posted on 05/21/2025 11:05:05 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Peninsular Arab DNA from Saudi looks like this: Natufian Hunter-Gatherer: 67.0% Zagros Neolithic Farmer: 21.2% Anatolian Neolithic Farmer: 7.6% Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer: 4.2%.

However, Palestinian Christians DNA looks like this: Anatolian Neolithic Farmer: 41.8% Natufian Hunter-Gatherer: 24.8% Zagros Neolithic Farmer: 23.2% Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer: 10.2%.

That is very very different. If the Palestinians were Arab, we would expect their Natufian to be around 67%, but it is not, instead it is below 25%. Palestinian Christians are clearly not ethnically Arab.


2 posted on 05/21/2025 11:05:26 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: Cronos

When Palestine became Islamic around the year 1200 we begin to see some foreign admixture. On the coastal plain the foreign admixture is usually Egyptian. In West Bank near Hebron and Jerusalem the foreign admixture is probably Bedouin. In the North near Tzfat the foreign admixture is minimal and believed to be Kurdish. On balance it is fair to state that Palestinians are in fact ethnically Israelite. The divide between the Israelis and Palestinians is on religious and linguistic lines only.


3 posted on 05/21/2025 11:07:03 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: Cronos

“Palestinians are not Arab”

https://www.lerctr.org/~transit/healy/bull.wav


4 posted on 05/21/2025 11:09:05 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Cronos

No such thing as a Palestinian. Do we really need this “lesson”.


5 posted on 05/21/2025 11:09:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Cronos

I would say that they are probably Jews that were forcibly converted.


6 posted on 05/21/2025 11:09:41 AM PDT by Jonty30 (I have invented a pen that can write underwater. And other words. )
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To: faithhopecharity; Lurker

Ping


7 posted on 05/21/2025 11:10:16 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: Jonty30

Also Jews whi became christian and their descendants became mohammedan


8 posted on 05/21/2025 11:11:47 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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9 posted on 05/21/2025 11:12:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Cronos
When Palestine became Islamic around the year 1200 we begin to see some foreign admixture.

Let's stop there and get the dates correct first.

The siege of Jerusalem (636–637) was part of the Muslim conquest of the Levant and the result of the military efforts of the Rashidun Caliphate against the Byzantine Empire in the year 636–637/38. It began when the Rashidun army, under the command of Abu Ubayda, besieged Jerusalem beginning in November 636. After six months, Patriarch Sophronius agreed to surrender, on condition that he submit only to the caliph. In 637 or 638, Caliph Umar (r. 634–644) traveled to Jerusalem in person to receive the submission of the city. The patriarch thus surrendered to him.

The Muslim conquest of the city solidified Arab control over Palestine, which would not again be threatened until the First Crusade in 1099.

10 posted on 05/21/2025 11:15:33 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Cronos

Informative. Thanks for posting.


11 posted on 05/21/2025 11:18:45 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Cronos

May be a bit of sophistry here. The Jews are descended from Abraham, who was born in Ur of Chaldea, which is near the Mesopotamian river in Iraq. So stands to reason there would be some genetic links here and there between Arabs and Jews, Ishmael and Isaac.


12 posted on 05/21/2025 11:19:45 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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They don’t look like Jews. They look like crazy Arab muslims. They act like them too, which is the whole problem.


13 posted on 05/21/2025 11:23:10 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Sacajaweau

That’s what I had always thought..that today’s “Palestinian” didn’t really exist...but, everybody has to be “something”. Nothing wrong with this; anybody could be considered as they preferred, just so they are not troublemakers.


14 posted on 05/21/2025 11:24:57 AM PDT by oldtech
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I would say that they are probably Jews that were forcibly converted.

And some Jews might be descended from Arab pagans who were forcibly converted to Judaism by the Maccabees in the second century BC.

15 posted on 05/21/2025 11:37:03 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: oldtech

They’re muzzies...


16 posted on 05/21/2025 11:38:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: MtnClimber

Then there’s the glaring fact that most Israelis have high IQs while the average surrounding Muslim is around 85.

Maybe genetics are thwarted by the blood pooling in their heads five times each day for mandatory prayers.


17 posted on 05/21/2025 12:02:25 PM PDT by MikelTackNailer (Free compassion and beer tomorrow.)
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To: MikelTackNailer

Yes, much of the muslim hatred of Israel seems to be jealousy.


18 posted on 05/21/2025 12:05:01 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Best place for an Arab Muslim to live in the Middle East is Israel, as long as you’re not a terrorist supporter.


19 posted on 05/21/2025 12:07:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MikelTackNailer

Much of Africa is tribal and results in inbreeding and low IQ. The muslim tradition of marrying cousins results in the same thing. And they both hate those who are more intelligent, even if libtards.


20 posted on 05/21/2025 12:14:26 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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