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JFK's back brace may have cost him his life, doctor says
CBS News ^ | 11/19/13 | Bob Shieffer

Posted on 03/22/2025 4:34:36 AM PDT by hardspunned

DALLAS Dr. Kenneth Salyer was a 27-year-old resident at Parkland Hospital on call for head injuries when he got word a new patient was being rushed to the ER.

"A nurse ran into the room and said, 'The president's been shot,'" Salyer says.

But nothing prepared him for what he saw. "He was still breathing," he says. "It's sort of agonal, labored, close-to-your-last sort of breaths. But he still was breathing."

When the president's clothes were removed, Salyer was surprised by what he found. Kennedy, who suffered from chronic back pain, was wearing a heavy, corset-like brace that went from his chest to below his waist. He believes it cost Kennedy his life.

He's looked at the autopsy report and studied, frame by frame, the 26-second Zapruder film, which captured the assassination and the wounding of Texas Gov. John Connally.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


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To: MayflowerMadam

Guess you had to be there...


21 posted on 03/22/2025 6:01:19 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. The Dhimmicraps are ALL Traitors. All of them.)
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To: Omnivore-Dan
A family friend who was a Kennedy supporter and a Democrat party local activist in Boston knew both John and Robert early in JFK's political career. She described John as charming and considerate, but Bobby as a driven, demanding SOB.

As President, JFK was wrong about many things but correct on one great issue: not going to nuclear war with the Soviet Union over Cuba. Contrary to Kennedy and good sense, LeMay and the Joint Chiefs of Staff mostly saw nuclear war as inevitable and best fought at a time of our choosing. This was a key point of friction between Kennedy and the US national security establishment.

There is some reason to believe that John Kennedy's compulsive philandering was in part due to his medications, which included injected methamphetamine. In addition, to remedy lost adrenal function, JFK was taking large doses of a broad spectrum steroid that likely weakened his bones and may have contributed to his back problems.

22 posted on 03/22/2025 6:04:19 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Eccl 10:2

How’d they do that? I don’t think Ray Davies was old enough to be in Dallas at the time.


23 posted on 03/22/2025 6:07:00 AM PDT by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months s)
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To: MayflowerMadam; hardspunned
I can’t imagine JFK being anyone’s hero — but I guess he was.

It is impossible to say, but I think the country would have been better off with Kennedy as president than it was with LBJ.

We may not have had the War on Poverty or the Civil Rights Act.

24 posted on 03/22/2025 6:12:54 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: redfreedom

Regardless of who actually made the kill shot, if Kennedy had slouched forward more in those few seconds between the neck wound and head shot, it would have made the shot harder to make. That would be especially true if Oswald didn’t make the shot from above, say if it came from the grassy knoll.


25 posted on 03/22/2025 6:13:17 AM PDT by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months s)
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To: hardspunned

“...could JFK have survived that first shot without the back brace?”

That aligns with the magic bullet theory, something someone pulled out of the thin air to try to establish the theory that Oswald was the lone gunman.


26 posted on 03/22/2025 6:34:00 AM PDT by odawg
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To: MayflowerMadam; hardspunned

JFK pulling off that election is what killed America, just about everything people have been trained to attribute to LBJ was already started under the JFK agenda, and the post death JFK was used against America for generations and is reflected in even the brainwashing of modern anti-left voters into being JFK protectors and worshipers.


27 posted on 03/22/2025 6:37:12 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: lone star annie

Who killed Marilyn Monroe?


28 posted on 03/22/2025 6:37:49 AM PDT by bray (It's not racist to be racist against races the DNC hates.)
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To: Pontiac

We would have definitely had the Civil Rights Act. AS WRITTEN, I’m have no problem with it. Kennedy was doing it to eradicate the state supported racism in the country at the time (yes, it was rampant, I remember). LBJ did it solely to “have those n*****s voting Democratic for the next 200 years”

The Great Society was Johnson’s gift that turned us into a welfare state. The Great Society was not Kennedy’s New Frontier.


29 posted on 03/22/2025 6:41:28 AM PDT by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months s)
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To: bray

When do get a real investigation about who killed Judge Scalia?


30 posted on 03/22/2025 6:46:24 AM PDT by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months s)
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To: Pontiac

*** We may not have had the War on Poverty or the Civil Rights Act.****

Great examples of the myth creating around JFK.
“The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was proposed by President John F. Kennedy in 1963 and later signed into law by his successor, President Lyndon B. Johnson, in 1964.”

“Frances Fox Piven and Richard Cloward have probably been most widely read. President John F. Kennedy and President Johnson, they argue, launched the War on Poverty in order to attract a high percentage of black votes in the 1964
election.”


31 posted on 03/22/2025 6:48:25 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

See post #29


32 posted on 03/22/2025 6:55:24 AM PDT by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months s)
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To: ansel12
“The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was proposed by President John F. Kennedy in 1963 and later signed into law by his successor, President Lyndon B. Johnson, in 1964.”

Proposed by Kennedy, yes.

But would it have passed without Kennedy's death?

Kennedy's assassination generated a great deal of sympathy towards his goals.

33 posted on 03/22/2025 6:56:20 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: SloppyDrummer
He might have survived the first shot through the neck if he had bent over to lower his head into the car’s interior. The back brace prevented that and left him open for the head shot.

There's a book called "Conspiracy of One" by Jim Moore, in which he makes a very compelling case that the first shot was fatal (even as Kennedy had a few moments to reflexively reach for his neck).

34 posted on 03/22/2025 7:01:17 AM PDT by Captain Walker ("It is infinitely better to have a few good Men, than many indifferent ones." - George Washington)
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To: hardspunned

Yes, I’m sure that he would have survived without the brace...

...and all the brain matter.

/s

Seriously, LBJ, CIA & USSS cost JFK his life.

Conspiracy & incompetence. And no accountability.

And a nearly dead DJT. Twice.

Wave that flag. /s


35 posted on 03/22/2025 7:01:50 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: SloppyDrummer

Why would he have bent over? Like so many JFK assassination discussions this is just silly. While it’s not a supersonic bullet the time frame between the sound hitting his ears and the bullet hitting him wouldn’t even be long enough for him to think “gun shot” much less bend over.


36 posted on 03/22/2025 7:02:56 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: hardspunned

Kennedy’s regardless of what JFK and his veep called it, it was going to become law since the dems controlled all three parts of gov.

Now imagine Eisenhower’s veep winning.

The black vote switched to the Dems in 1936, not 1965, it went from always GOP by about 70% including 1932, to suddenly always democrat with about 70% in 1936, it reversed instantly and never went back.


37 posted on 03/22/2025 7:03:46 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Pontiac

It would have passed, and so would the immigration laws that JFK ran on and which were his long time dream.


38 posted on 03/22/2025 7:06:30 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: hardspunned

I think it may have had more to do with the back of his head being blown off, but what do I know.


39 posted on 03/22/2025 7:10:04 AM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: MayflowerMadam

****I can’t imagine JFK being anyone’s hero — but I guess he was.****

The left turned him into one of our most athletic presidents, athletic and exuding health and one of our greatest WWII heroes. No one can name what combat award for heroism he was awarded, but they know that he was a great WWII hero.

In 1960 4 veterans were on the ballot, JFK and Nixon, and their veep candidates.

Nixon was a respected Navy Lt. Commander in the Pacific.

LBJ as a Navy Lt. Commander was awarded a silver Star.

Henry Cabot Lodge was a big-time hero and Nixon’s running mate.

“Lodge was a major in the 1st Armored Division. That tour ended in July 1942, when President Franklin D. Roosevelt ordered congressmen serving in the military to resign one of the two positions, and Lodge, who chose to remain in the Senate, was ordered by Secretary of War Henry Stimson to return to Washington.

After returning to Washington and winning re-election in November 1942, Lodge went to observe allied troops serving in Egypt and Libya, and in that position was on hand for the British retreat from Tobruk.

Lodge served the first year of his new Senate term, but then resigned his Senate seat on February 3, 1944 in order to return to active duty, the first U.S. Senator to do so since the Civil War. He saw action in Italy and France.

Promoted to lieutenant colonel, in the fall of 1944 Lodge single-handedly captured a four-man German patrol. By March 1945 he was decorated with the French Legion of Honor and Croix de Guerre with palm. His American decorations included the Legion of Merit and the Bronze Star Medal. At the end of the war in 1945 he served as a liaison and interpreter to U.S. Sixth Army Group commander General Jacob Devers in Devers’ surrender negotiations with the German forces in western Austria.

After the war Lodge returned to Massachusetts and resumed his political career. He continued his status as an Army Reserve officer and rose to the rank of major general.”


40 posted on 03/22/2025 7:13:08 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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