Posted on 02/28/2025 10:31:32 AM PST by nickcarraway
Ten years ago, workplaces were complaining about entitled millennials who pleaded poverty and an inability to get ahead financially — all while eating $10 avocado toast. But now these workers are no longer the office's biggest brat pack.
Meet the zoomers or Generation Z. Born between 1997 and 2012, zoomers are shaking things up at work — and in all the wrong ways according to baby boomers, Gen Xers, and millennials.
Here are 14 reasons bosses complain that Gen Z is the worst generation to manage and the reality of what Gen Z has to offer.
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
My son is Gen Z. He’s well into an electrician’s apprenticeship and testing far above his classmates. He’s hoping that after his apprenticeship he can go for an Engineering degree to be able to design the things he’s working on now rather than running conduit and pulling wire. I think he’ll be fine.
There are well known laws that prohibit firing or not hiring for certain reasons. Outside of those laws in most states there are no laws that prevent firing for any reason at anytime. There are some civil and even common law practices that may come into play but for the vast majority of jobs it is “employment at will”.
I suppose the devil is in the details, but these two could almost be seen as contradictory:
"So, like, look, I know you have these traditional workplace norms, and stuff, but I wanted to show some initiative, so I have worked up some alternate approaches, like, so we don't have to keep doing everything the old fashioned way. I figured you wanted a go-getter, and a self-starter, so these are my suggestions ..."
Damned if you do, damned of you don't.
Yeah, it read like it was written by a Zoomer apologist. Every issue that was mentioned somehow in their mind was a positive and if the old Boomers and Xers would just shut up and listen and kowtow to their demands the world would be a wonderful place.
If this is how the world is going, we are screwed. My experience has been that they, as a group, are lazy, entitled and not well equipped by education, experience or temperament to work in a functional, productive organization.
MSN’s 14 reasons Z’s are being fire, along with MSN’s 14 excuses for bad Z behavior, plus 14 MSN “suggestions” for bosses about how bosses should adapt their company to the bad behavior of their wretched, entitled Z employees, you know, instead of just firing them ...
> Complaint: Gen Z doesn’t take initiative
> Complaint: Gen Z challenges traditional workplace norms
> The one really disturbing thing about younger generations
> in the workplace is the inability to NOT share EVERYTHING
That tracks with my experience. Gen Z workers can be absolutely great: smart, dedicated, highly productive. But some are definitely bottom 10% material: highly educated, well-credentialed, but unreliable, argumentative, and eager to take the initiative, but not in any ways that have anything to do with what the company is supposed to be doing. A department meeting is NOT the time to “challenge workplace norms” by delivering a harangue on your pet social justice issue, nor is a group lunch the time to start talking about how much you love your new anal beads. (I am not making this up.)
I blame HR, for not merely not filtering these people out early in the recruiting process, but for seeming to think we need *more* people with anger issues, hair colors not found in nature, and an inability to decide which gender they are this week.
Same. He has an Accounting degree and is doing electrical work. He likes the finality of building as opposed to open-ended nature of Accounting where you have to keep doing the same thing over and over. He also didn’t like working with mentally-ill women. Offices are full of them.
I'm still working full time. Age 68. Generated over 900,000 lines of network interface code last night. Got a clean compile in Java after adding some dependencies to the gradle build file. I'll be cobbling up the network services code this afternoon. I could probably be a bit more productive, but 12 hours was enough for me yesterday. I wrapped up around midnight. I've been a software engineer since 1980.
My employer does lots of business with the fed gov. If Elon torches our contracts, I'll just do my retirement paperwork and enjoy my remaining time.
Zoomers collect mental illnesses like we collected baseball cards. Then they want accommodations. They are also very hive-minded. They hate things like Republicans because their friends all hate Republicans. They know so little that they have to immediately resort to snarkiness. Their #1 response to a question about why they believe something is “Maybe you should watch the news sometime”, arguing from ignorance disguised as authority
Yup. Age 68 and saving some typing with ChatGPT code generation. It won't do the whole job, but when prompted appropriately, you get a useful bit of functionality. ChatGPT isn't leading edge either. It fails nuances in configuration of keycloak that emerged after the language model training occurred.
No, they had mental illnesses dumped on them like rain.
I have 7 Gen Z grandkids. One is a recent college grad , one is about to graduate, another in college, two about to graduate high school an two in high school. The recent grad is working his ass off. He often works 12 hour days and he’s no slacker. His brother who is about to graduate is the same… worked all through college.
My 15 year old granddaughter held down 2 jobs during the summer and really doesn’t need to work but she enjoys it.
From the 70s onward, college students and everyone else - businesses, too - were offered the "You're pre-approved!" credit cards.
Hello, $37 trillion national debt.
MSN is a waste. I never go there now
“Articles” like this are so non-productive. Just clickbait, IMO.
What an absolute ridiculous web site that is... I scrolled for a good length of time and seen 2 of the reasons i think. all the ads and BS!! Thanks nick, but its too much trouble for what its probably worth....
Our 24 year old Gen Z'er is project leader on a million dollar automation project using lasers and robots.
Articles like this are Boomer Propaganda, to make them feel better about themselves and how they are screwing over the younger generations.
I worked with and hired many Gen-Z, they are fine. Give them a task and they do it as efficiently as possible. I love working with young people.
It’s these Psycho Boomers who won’t die/retire that are the problem in the work place. I don’t blame younger generations for not wanting to work with them and put up with their Boomer BS.
No, I won’t help you format your word document and why do we have to have another meeting to discuss how to make a table in excel.
Be gone already
I would not hire several of those who looked like those in the photos
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