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Archaeologists Found Ancient Tools That Contradict the Timeline of Civilization
Popular Mechanics via Yahoo News ^ | 2/25/2025 | Tim Newcomb

Posted on 02/26/2025 8:49:03 PM PST by logi_cal869

Stone tool analysis of sites in Southeast Asia provided evidence that the area was a technological leader in seafaring.

Archaeology supports that, 40,000 years ago, the people living in Southeast Asia were well-versed in boatbuilding and open-sea fishing.

This research puts Southeast Asia ahead of Europe and Africa in technological process.

In the history of studying the proliferation of humanity across the globe, there has long been one question that has stumped researchers: How did the islands of Southeast Asia (ISEA) become so well-inhabited so long ago? It likely required technological seafaring advancements beyond what was considered likely during the Paleolithic era. But those experts may have a surprising new answer thanks to new research that shows the ancient people of the Philippines and ISEA may have mastered seafaring well before anyone else.

The pivotal archaeological evidence comes in the form of stone tools excavated at sites in the Philippines, Indonesia, and Timor-Leste, showing strong evidence that as far back as 40,000 years ago, there was a technological sophistication from these ancient seafarers that rivals much later civilizations. In a study published in the Journal of Archaeological Science, researchers from Ateneo de Manila University challenge the accepted belief that Paleolithic technical progress was centered in Africa and Europe.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Science
KEYWORDS: ancientculture; paleoseamen; seafarers; seamen; southeastasia
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New evidence of how the region - and possibly trans Pacific - were populated (and when).
1 posted on 02/26/2025 8:49:03 PM PST by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

Testing the waters: Plant working and seafaring in Pleistocene Wallacea

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352409X25000525


2 posted on 02/26/2025 8:52:36 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Well I am utterly shocked that people living on islands develop sea travel earlier then people living on massive continents.

Obviously this was Government grant money well spent and isn’t tainted with jingoism at all.


3 posted on 02/26/2025 8:52:46 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: logi_cal869

Clues of advanced ancient technology found in the Philippines and Island Southeast Asia

https://www.ateneo.edu/news/2025/02/21/clues-advanced-ancient-technology-found-philippines-island-southeast-asia


4 posted on 02/26/2025 8:53:05 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

I believe it


5 posted on 02/26/2025 8:53:25 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: logi_cal869

Typical lame useless science writing. The headline states the timeline is challenge but the article never bothers to identify how.

Almost like they want to hide the impact.

My take, once again we get another discovery that significantly shifts dating yet we are to keep trusting they get it right.

Truth is they have no real idea when anything happened and guess wildly imo, the only criteria modern science has is to ensure everything they propose is stated in a way to contradicts the Bible’s history.


6 posted on 02/26/2025 8:55:31 PM PST by Skwor
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When archaeologists dug down and found this ancient relic they were stunned.
7 posted on 02/26/2025 9:01:14 PM PST by BipolarBob (My goal is to lose 10 pounds this year. So far, only thirteen more to go.)
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To: logi_cal869

It’s amazing to me that people 40,000 years ago could master boat design, boat building, sails, oars, hulls, navigation, etc but still not have developed a written language.


8 posted on 02/26/2025 9:02:53 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Democrats who say ‘no one is above the law’ won’t mind going to prison for the money they stole.)
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Maybe they did but no one recognizes it (like the knotted string records of one of the South American civilizations), or it was all scratched onto palm paper or palm leaves that rotted away.


9 posted on 02/26/2025 9:10:02 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustmilents offered here free of charge)
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To: logi_cal869
Contradictions in timelines…Excellent!


10 posted on 02/26/2025 9:10:06 PM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

In one of my past professions I was a Journeyman shipwright.
I can and have built large wood sailboats from scratch.
Those ancient guys may not have had the written word, but they had mentors.


11 posted on 02/26/2025 9:25:33 PM PST by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

...that we know of.

If I had the time, I could cite case after case of orthodox archaeology ignoring evidence, removing access to sites and even destroying evidence which conflicts with the orthodoxy.

I believe that there was an ancient civilization(s) yet unrecognized, evidence of which is on nearly every continent.

It is only a matter of time that it will be demonstrable, and, to that end, I support unimpeded research/study - SCIENCE - absent interference from those who prefer the status quo (hawass among them).


12 posted on 02/26/2025 9:37:26 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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Oh no....not again...

Grant money is forever!!

13 posted on 02/26/2025 9:47:49 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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Maybe they did but no one recognizes it (like the knotted string records of one of the South American civilizations), or it was all scratched onto palm paper or palm leaves that rotted away.

That is true. look at the Dead Sea Scrolls, for example. Hand written on fragile papyrus, they never would have survived 2000 years until they were discovered if they were not stored undisturbed in an arid area in caves, covered with bat guano. As it was, they started to disintegrate after they were removed are now stored in climate controlled containers or displays.

14 posted on 02/26/2025 10:28:40 PM PST by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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To: rellic

> Those ancient guys may not have had the written word, but they had mentors.

Tacit knowledge is the foundation, passed from generation to generation, embodied in the created artifacts.


15 posted on 02/27/2025 12:34:01 AM PST by no-s (Caja de jabón, urna, caja de jurado, caja de cartuchos ... ya sabes cómo va...)
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To: logi_cal869
Open sea fishing?

Color me skeptical.

Did they have a rudder, sails, oars, nets?

If you get more than a mile or two from home port, what is your plan to get home, if the current, or the wind, or day light, is against you?

40,000 years ago is close to Glacial Maximum in the last Ice Age.

My own theory - hundreds, perhaps thousands, of new habitable islands emerged from the Pacific Ocean during Glacial Maximum, which made exploration simpler and safer.

16 posted on 02/27/2025 2:36:34 AM PST by zeestephen (Trump Landslide? Kamala lost the election by 230,000 votes, in WI, MI, and PA.)
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To: logi_cal869

N Vietnamese, Viet Cong...having been bombed all the way back to the Stone Age?


17 posted on 02/27/2025 2:38:44 AM PST by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: rellic

Those ancient guys may not have had the written word, but they had mentors.


Yes, and seaworthy vessels can be constructed from a single tree and outriggers.

It is not a particularly advanced technology. It takes fire and stone and shell tools.

Ancient people were just as smart as us. They were limited by the tools available to them.


18 posted on 02/27/2025 3:56:28 AM PST by marktwain
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To: zeestephen

My own theory - hundreds, perhaps thousands, of new habitable islands emerged from the Pacific Ocean during Glacial Maximum, which made exploration simpler and safer.


A reasonable belief.

However, man powered ships, and large dugout canoes with outriggers don’t take much tech. Navigation using heavenly bodies and knowledge gained over hundreds of years of experience has been used to successfully navigate thousands of miles of open water.

The Spanish encountered American Indians using large *rafts* for ocean transportation and commerce. Yes, they had sails.


19 posted on 02/27/2025 4:03:23 AM PST by marktwain
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Trust the scientist’s hypothesis. A wild assed guess is always something to make children learn as absolute science gospel, but keep the gospel out.

Trust me, I can spread two chips of pottery and a chipped stone like Tarrot cards....


20 posted on 02/27/2025 5:24:46 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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