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L.A. Fires Show Limits of America’s Efforts to Cope With Climate Change
The New York Times ^ | Jan. 10, 2025Updated 3:44 p.m. ET | Christopher Flavelle

Posted on 01/11/2025 10:12:15 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

California has focused on fortifying communities against wildfires. But with growing threats, that may not be enough.

This week’s fires around Los Angeles present a puzzle: Why is California, the state best equipped to deal with wildfires, seemingly unable to prevent blazes from consuming entire chunks of the country’s second-largest city?

California’s building code for wildfires is among the most protective in the nation. Its local fire departments are backed up by CalFire, the state fire agency, which has a $4 billion budget and some of the best trained firefighters in the world. The state’s huge tax base generates effectively unlimited resources for wildfire protection. And California has mandatory statewide requirements that homeowners in risky areas create “defensible space” around their property — rules that other Western states would like to apply but can’t because it would anger conservative voters.

Yet the events of this week demonstrate the limits of those efforts, raising uncomfortable questions about whether any part of the United States — even the wealthiest, best prepared and most experienced — can truly adapt to wildfires made worse by a hotter climate.

“Climate change, and climate events, are causing us to butt up against that limit,” said Joshua Saks, the adaptation program director for Georgetown Climate Center at Georgetown University Law Center in Washington. “The risk will always grow, and at some point outpace what you’ve done.”

Part of the extensive damage from the fires in Los Angeles may reflect errors in planning or execution. Fire hydrants designed to fight house fires ran dry, as water reserves faced greater demand than officials anticipated. It’s not clear that residents had sufficient warning or that evacuation routes were well planned. The second-guessing and questions about accountability have already begun even as the fires...

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KEYWORDS: algore; biden; bs; california; christopherflavelle; climatechangehoax; dodgingliability; enemieslist; enemyjournalists; fire; gaslighting; gorebullwarming; kamalaharris; manbearpig; nevergiveupthecon; newsom; newyorkslimes; nyslimes
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality."
Ayn Rand

41 posted on 01/11/2025 11:13:03 AM PST by Savage Beast (There's a Light over the Whole World. Fight! Fight! Fight! --President Donald Trump)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Once again, the NYT fits the news to print in its scandal sheet!


42 posted on 01/11/2025 11:13:13 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Climate Change still a steaming pile....


43 posted on 01/11/2025 11:15:22 AM PST by wetgundog
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Using this catastrophe to further the hoax is evil on another level.


44 posted on 01/11/2025 11:18:06 AM PST by iamgalt
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So this is the time for politics then ...


45 posted on 01/11/2025 11:24:14 AM PST by SecondAmendment (The history of the present Federal Government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations ...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Nice try NYTs. Liberal policies contributed to this destruction more than anything else by a long shot.


46 posted on 01/11/2025 11:25:48 AM PST by Jonny7797
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To: Rennes Templar

Insane Green Wokeism.

LOOK AT THE GOOD SIDE OF IT! The Smelt fish are doing well now the reservoirs and dams once used for fire suppression, have been destroyed and drained. and the brush was for nesting birds and ground animals so the Greenies could go out and commune with Mother Nature!
Now Mother Nature has bit them in the butt big time. And where is the LA mayor> In Ghana Africa weeping at the slave pens, wailing at the Door of no Return and blubbering about how terrible the US is. But when her tax payer paid vacation is over she will hop on an air conditioned jet and return to the land she hates.


47 posted on 01/11/2025 11:31:36 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Steve_Seattle

” I read somewhere that the LAPD refused to press charges against a man caught red-handed starting a fire.”

They said they didn’t have probable cause. Caught him with a propane torch.


48 posted on 01/11/2025 11:34:53 AM PST by dljordan (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hockey-stick wielding Penn State Prof Michael Mann has now officially been caught with his pants around his ankles, BITH unwilling to provide his raw so-called “climate change” data for independent scientific scrutiny, and thus pitifully unable to prove reputational harm by his interlocutor Mark Steyn despite a decade or so of accusations and litigation.

Can we please just call all this a sham, and move on?


49 posted on 01/11/2025 11:39:14 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TaEo2suLyM


50 posted on 01/11/2025 11:42:49 AM PST by old school
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

The latest, left wing mantra: “Non functioning Fire hydrants are caused by climate change.”


51 posted on 01/11/2025 11:48:11 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“California has focused on fortifying communities against wildfires.”

That’s another blatant lie. Nothing could be further from the truth... as has just been PROVEN by the ongoing LA fires. And no, it has nothing to do with “”climate change””. So sick of the leftist BS.


52 posted on 01/11/2025 11:50:15 AM PST by Danie_2023
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Why is California, the state best equipped to deal with wildfires, seemingly unable to prevent blazes from consuming entire chunks of the country’s second-largest city?

Answer: leftist Democrats

53 posted on 01/11/2025 11:54:17 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’ve said this before. If the winds you are fighting against have “names” and people know them…then this is not a recent phenomenon. The winds have been tearing through these places for ten thousand years or more.

The difference isn’t “climate change”…it’s people and poor land management.


54 posted on 01/11/2025 12:02:28 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The New York Slimes BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARFs up more bullshit.


55 posted on 01/11/2025 12:11:57 PM PST by antidemoncrat ( )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Massive massive name shifting there, almost unbelievable but it is the left so up is down and exercising caused by climate change
Oh and kamel toe ran a flawless campaign


56 posted on 01/11/2025 1:33:44 PM PST by blitz128
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To: Cobra64

A +


57 posted on 01/11/2025 1:57:14 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: All

Editorial Shows Limits of Liberals’ Efforts to Cope with Logical Reasoning


58 posted on 01/11/2025 2:08:35 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (For two countries with so many lawyers, there ain't much justice in Canada or America (yet))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
ROTFLMAO!!!


59 posted on 01/11/2025 2:35:17 PM PST by Dick Bachert (=)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The con OR LYING CLOWNS ?


60 posted on 01/11/2025 2:39:52 PM PST by Pearfect (Ou can't beat the competition lock-)
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