Posted on 12/31/2024 7:20:05 AM PST by Red Badger
An aviation expert said that a bird strike alone would not sufficiently explain why a South Korean airline jet skidded off a runway and crashed, killing nearly every passenger on board.
On Sunday, Jeju Air Flight 2216 was landing at Muan International Airport about 180 miles south of Seoul when the incident occurred, according to the Wall Street Journal. The crash killed 179 of the 181 passengers and crew members onboard.
WARNING: The following post contains video of the crash, which may be disturbing for some readers.
VIDEO AT LINK.................
“There are a million backups on this airplane. It’s extremely safe, and that’s what a lot of people are saying. They can’t understand why this airplane was landed on that runway at that speed with no flaps, with no gear. There might have been something else involved,” aviation consultant Mike Boyd told Fox News on Sunday.
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AVIATION PING!................
Strange indeed - this will have the experts stumped for some time; backups plenty, no gear, no flaps.....
From my expert:
Bird strike likely, but was NOT the cause of the crash.
The cause was the loss of ALL THREE independent hydraulic systems and/or pilot error. The pilot error was to try and land so quickly before having time to assess the problems and go through all the proper check lists.
The gear can be lowered manually, so why didn’t they? TIME, panic.
“I MUST get back to the airport NOW!” itis.
It could be totally unrelated but maybe the “birds” were these:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgw8vq2xxyo
What the hell kind of bird did it hit?
a dead bird
A CONCRETE one..................
The bird strike had to have occurred at an altitude and distance from the airport that would have been before the flaps and landing gear was down. Typically a couple of miles before landing. The only explanation was that the plane was put into a descent mode on the flight director (which is liked directly to the autopilot) and allowed to crash.
The 737-800 is sophisticated enough to follow the ILS to a spot near the beginning of the runway. If the landing gear and flaps were down and the spoilers were armed, the aircraft would nearly land itself, only requiring the thrust reversers to be actuated manually and brakes applied.
For these reasons, I believe that one or both pilots were dead and the plane as deliberately allowed to crash.
SK government is having a lot of problems lately and is trying to fend off the inevitable avalanche of criticism and lawsuits by suggesting Boeing is somehow at fault. The government will fall over this - unfortunate because the ruling party is at least nominally the conservative anti-Communist faction.
“”For these reasons, I believe that one or both pilots were dead and the plane as deliberately allowed to crash.””
I understand and can definitely see why that might be a conclusion...pretty scary if true!
BUT also, what two members of the crew were pulled from the wreckage? I was thinking it would be those in the cockpit, Captain and FO but that would put a different slant on things. I assume there’s an FE on board a B737....
I am thinking complete HYDRAULIC FAILURE.
I’ve read that the 2 survivors were flight crew sitting at the very rear of the plane (probably on jump seats).
Was there any sign of damage to the cockpit area or smoke/fire indicated there before landing? I know some have viewed the crash frame by frame.
They are relatively low and no longer had any thrust due to shutting down the wrong engine.
Panic then happens in the cockpit and pilot judgement is poor.
No time to get in landing configuration thus comes in hot, fast and clean. The pilots think they have just one chance to land regardless of not being in landing configuration. Lands long and fast and hits obstruction.
This is just supposition and the pilots may not be at fault.
Okay just watch that video and read on this This makes absolutely no sense... No gear down no flaps down coming in at full power skitting on its belly into a concrete abutment
This is just pure craziness....
I’m going to say massively incompetent pilots who really were just trained monkeys for automation
And when the automation didn’t work they had no clue what the hell they were doing
I saw a video in which an an aviation expert pointed out that one of the pilots had his arm outstretched to the cockpit front window, as if to protect himself from the inevitable crash . You can see the arm outstretched . I think the pilots were alive.
“”I’ve read that the 2 survivors were flight crew “”
Then it’s true that the safest place to be in an airplane is in the back - last to go down...I know not funny.
I wasn’t thinking when I thought it meant the “cockpit” crew...not the way that plane hit that wall - impossible!
I don’t know if anyone could tell if there was sign of damage before landing. I don’t suppose anyone was watching it..I don’t know if there was a crowd at the airport waiting for family/friends or was it an alternate airport due to problems enroute???
This will be talked about as long as the Malaysian missing plane and TWA 800...I worked for a ground school that held prep classes for FAA exams in OC, CA whose owner flew for TWA. He never talked about that crash!!!
It appears they didn’t throttle back the engines but I honestly know nothing about aircraft.
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