Posted on 12/30/2024 8:19:39 AM PST by BenLurkin
Recently released video footage shares the moment Air Traffic Control desperately calls “Stop, stop, stop!” before the taxiing private jet could cross the Delta aircraft’s departing path.
According to an L.A. Times report, the jet had just arrived from Spokane, Wash., and carried the Gonzaga men’s college basketball team.
In a statement obtained by the L.A. Times, the Federal Aviation Administration said when the team’s chartered Embraer E135 jet, operated by Colorado-based Key Lime Air, “proceeded to cross the hold bars, air traffic controllers told the pilots to stop.”
“The jet never crossed the runway edge line,” the FAA, which is investigating the incident, told the L.A. Times.
(Excerpt) Read more at ktla.com ...
Minor incident but found the youtube it links to channel interesting.
Woman driver. VERY IMPRESSIVE by the non-DEI flight controller to catch the woman’s mistake just after she made it...she barely crossed the line when he quickly told her to stop. I wonder how his wife driver?
*drives
DEI, except maybe in a little kids’ sand box, can easily get one maimed or killed.
I’ve always felt more comfortable knowing that the pilots of the planes that I fly in were prior military.
Yup, relieved to hear the non-DEI voice.
The errant pilot was a woman? How do you know?
Urgency dictates that investigation be started with an OBJECTIVE review of the way in which DEI and other such NONSENSE programs have increased the risks to those who travel around the world in airplanes!
I’ve always felt more comfortable knowing that the pilots of the planes that I fly in were prior military.
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You’re one of countless flyers including myself who’s anxiety level increased as the number of former military pilots decreased. And now the DEI nonsense has INCREASED the level of anxiety!
Listening to the tower talk to the aircraft that nearly crossed the runway, the person talking to the tower was a female.
Assume that was the pilot, as is the custom I believe. Other people who have more experience with civil aviation might be able to tell us.
I am one of those as well. When I see an older, silver haired guy, I think military and am comforted.
There are people who scoff at this notion of comfort with an older ex-miliatary pilot, but many of these silver-haired men have experience, and flew in high performance single-seat aircraft that are not only more prone to issues in flight, but they have more experience at handling those issues.
Funny...when I am in a car with someone and they are completely about to do something like go right through a red light, I usually say “STOP-STOP-STOP!”
(probably deriving from “EJECT-EJECT-EJECT!”
And what is it about the filthy airport in LA? There was graffiti all over the place! Is security so lax (hahaha LAX) that people can go up there and spray paint?
Disgusting.
I learned more per minute from my ex-military examiner pilot for instrument, commercial single engine, and commercial multi checkride than my instructors per hour at that point ( after private). He wasn’t so much trying bust you as make you better. He had me plan an instrument departure that went on instruments right after takeoff out of El Paso in a direction that could easily have been a collision with terrain, for instance.
Lesson: get to know the every airport and it unique features, terrain, etc personally. If you hear about an accident near an airport put it in your memory as something important when you think about that airport.
Just like frequencies, make room in your mind to know them personally.
Another thing on the commercial, he told me to descend immediately to xxx altitude and heading so and so, then said the way I did it would scare passengers.
Put me in a spin under the hood on my instrument, which was no problem but good experience.
I consider him a mentor although he was only my flight test examiner.
Also, when you are a looking for a pilot or flight instructor, if you knew enough to pick one you wouldn’t need one! But you can look for some silver hair.
Everything you outlined sounds like just that, something to make you better, rather than busting your chops.
I am a huge fan of Bill Whittle, who is a pilot and aviation enthusiast (not to mention a staunch and vocal conservative with his own podcast) and when he started out early on learning how to fly in a glider, he was practicing breakaways which they were doing at a minimum altitude of 500 feet.
He wondered what would happen if he had to break away at 200 feet, and asked his instructor if he could train for that.
His instructor did a rapid assessment and given the quality of his student, agreed to let him train for it.
I really liked that mindset.
Assume that was the pilot, as is the custom I believe. Other people who have more experience with civil aviation might be able to tell us.
In commercial aviation, there are at least two people in the cockpit, and two are pilots. (Flight engineers aren't needed in the current generation of commercial transport aircraft.) One of the two is the "pilot flying", the other is the "pilot monitoring". While I can't say it's a absolutely firm rule, the radio calls are handle by the pilot monitoring. That means one can say nothing definitive about the pilot who is actually handling the controls. The pilot flying can hear the traffic from ATC; he or she has the pilot monitoring actually do the talking -- most of the time.
I also remember watching stories about how LAX has, over the decades, been experimenting with additional ways to prevent runway incursions. The equivalent of railway crossing gates is not, um, practical. Most of the effort has been to improve ground radar, and installing what amounts to automatic traffic lights. :)
Thank you for that clarification. I was always under the impression that the pilot who was in the process of taxiing or flying was the one who spoke directly to avoid miscommunication (the telephone game).
“The errant pilot was a woman? How do you know?”
The recording - there was at least one DEI in the cockpit, both are responsible for a situation like that.
Delta. Per Indiana Jones, why does it always have to be...Delta?
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