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The Great Christmas H1B War of 2024
Postcards from the Barsoom Substack ^ | December 30, 2024 | John Carter

Posted on 12/30/2024 6:42:14 PM PST by packagingguy

For the last week the only thing anyone on Twitter – and, by extension, the rest of the Internet – has been talking about is the H1B visa.

The fun started when Sriram Krishnan, brought on by the incoming Trump administration as an Artificial Intelligence policy advisor, mused about lifting country caps on the widely reviled H1B visa. This elicited enthusiastic support from a chorus of tech CEOs, who insisted that there is a severe shortage of skilled engineers in the United States and, presumably, the West more generally, which can only be met by poaching the ‘best and brightest’ of the world’s ‘elite human capital’ and importing it by the imperial ton.

Predictably – predictable to anyone who’s been paying attention, which apparently does not include tech CEOs – the tech bros running with this sentiment slammed face-first into a hard granite wall of No!

… It turns out, for example, that despite being capped at around 85,000 per year, the Biden administration was routinely bringing in ten times this number...

Economics and legality are distractions, chaff thrown up by one side or the other to keep attention away from the primal psychological forces that are actually at work:

The territory of one people being given to others.

In particular, the white peoples of the world being displaced and disinherited, as their lands, their institutions, and their infrastructure are taken from them lot by lot and job by job by colonizers from the global south.

That is, in the end, what it comes down to.

(Excerpt) Read more at substack.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Education
KEYWORDS: h1b; h1b4india; h1bobsession; maga; oligarchs; troll
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To: packagingguy

Listen, white people can’t protest. They have no one looking out for them. Elon stepped in it and they are going to make the most of it. H-1B visa program is a GREAT INJUSTICE.


81 posted on 12/31/2024 1:15:25 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va
Neither are true.

O-1s are "genius Visas." Yu don't qualify by being "best and brightest." You have to win a Nobel Prize, or something.

L-1's are not for the "best and brightest." Quite opposite. They are like serfs.

The only requirement for an L-1 Visas is that you worked for the same company outside U.S. for one year. That's all.

And L-1's can't just jump to another job like H-1Bs. They can't go anywhere else, unless they find another company that would sponsor a new H-1B. And for most of them, that isn't an option.

But I can't find any info on how many there are in the U.S. They deliberately hide this info.

82 posted on 12/31/2024 1:22:46 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

At the center of the debate is the H-1B visa program, L-1s and O-1s are an interesting side debate but I’ve never worked with any. But I am ok with ditching those. I am sure an abused visa too.


83 posted on 12/31/2024 1:30:47 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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L-1s are much worse. There's no competition.

A lot of companies won't even sponsor H-1B's because the up front cost is so expensive. We need a study to see how these Visas are impacting wages.

84 posted on 12/31/2024 1:56:11 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: packagingguy

Lol the delusions of relevance coming out of the Twitterverse and Conservative Inc are pretty amusing to watch

The 10s of millions of voters who are on their third or 4th career due to lay off, downsizing, outsourcing etc over the years really don’t have a whole lot of sympathy for this entitled attitude among a few thousand IT types that they should all some how be immune to this.

Voters are much more interested in what Trump and the GOP are going to do to control inflation fix the US economy, end the Biden Wars, fix illegal immigration etc then they are about what Conservative INC and the Twittervese are squealing about today.

When all the Whiner Choir in Conservative Inc do everyday is rush to find new thing to scream about, everyone else simply stop listening to their daily temper tantrums


85 posted on 12/31/2024 2:03:29 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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That’s right. With all the jobs sent to other countries, automated, held by ‘guest workers’ here on visas (H1B, H2B, J1, etc.), and held by people in this country illegally, how many jobs are left for Americans?

For the record, I don’t use the word “American” as some kind of code word. I’m talking about jobs for Americans of all backgrounds. Many people are working gig jobs, just to make ends meet. Many students are graduating with STEM degrees but unable to find work in their field of study. The U.S. doesn’t need ‘guest workers.’


86 posted on 12/31/2024 4:18:39 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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Nick, Even if the USA's education system was number one in the world in math and science thugs like Gates and Musk wouldn't hire them because they are “too expensive” when compared to imported indentured servants. WE HAVE TO TAKE AWAY THE H-1B and L-1 COOKIE JAR!!!!
87 posted on 12/31/2024 8:00:55 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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