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From a Saturday morning radio talk show I was listening to this morning. The host found it terribly disconcerting to think ...earth really is all alone...
1 posted on 12/21/2024 8:53:00 AM PST by EBH
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To: EBH

Aliens would be gross and creepy. Glad we’re alone.


2 posted on 12/21/2024 8:54:38 AM PST by HYPOCRACY (Democracy is dead. Long live the Republic!)
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You can’t see them because of their advanced cloaking technology.


3 posted on 12/21/2024 8:57:01 AM PST by BipolarBob (As it was in the days of Noah they were feasting, drinking egg nog and celebrating Christmas.)
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I always thought that the real explanation is that “intelligence” are far more fragile than we expect and may have a very short shelf life. Eventually something happens to sabotage it. Like maybe nuclear war, pandemics, natural disasters (including asteroids), and out-of-control AI. It could also be something more mundane and ideological....Marxism? Or it could be that the race just becomes so nhilistic that it just degenerates into oblivion (e.g., Mouse Utopia).
8 posted on 12/21/2024 9:02:10 AM PST by rbg81
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Space is big. That’s where everybody is. If our very first radio transmission ever was strong enough to remain detectable in space (which it wasn’t, not even close, we weren’t hitting things that hard until early in the 20th century) less than 1% of the Milky Way galaxy could detect we’re here. And we don’t have the technology to be able to detect ourselves from more than about 20 light years away.

It would be sad if were were alone. It’s a big universe, what a waste of space to only have one marginally intelligent species in it.


9 posted on 12/21/2024 9:02:52 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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From a Judeo-Christian perspective, the "whole of creation" is groaning from the curse brought down by Adam (Romans 8:22). That wouldn't be right to have other sentient species suffering from our misbehavior. And the whole of creation will be restored with the return of Christ. So that would seem to rule out sentient life besides our own (and angels/demons).

On a secular side, one can challenge the Fermi paradox by pointing out that interstellar colonization is not so easy as most people assume. One would have to send a large enough vessel to have self-sustaining, technologically advanced population able to replicate everything technological, maintain genetic health and so on, with the energy to go fast enough to reach other stars without being slowly destroyed by high-speed micro-impacts along the way. So far it is a real stretch of faith to imagine such a thing is possible, with all imagined examples involving some level of fiction.

10 posted on 12/21/2024 9:04:44 AM PST by EnderWiggin1970
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Unless aliens reveal themselves to us, we will never know the answer to the question , as to whether there is life in the universe.

With our technology now , there’s no way we could ever travel to other solar systems to explore those planets to see if life is there.


13 posted on 12/21/2024 9:15:10 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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If aliens choose to hide themselves from us and to reveal themselves only to a select few counties in New Jersey, who are we to judge?


16 posted on 12/21/2024 9:19:43 AM PST by edwinland
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Well, if they’re all out there how come we have to send Chuck Berry to them and they’re not sending any Chuck Berry to us?


17 posted on 12/21/2024 9:20:27 AM PST by Stosh
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Life, it turns out, is not all that easy to create. I seriously doubt that there are other worlds out the "teeming with life" much less sentient life.

Meanwhile, we wasted how many billions on a Mars rover looking for signs of life? Haven't found any have we?

Are scientists really idiots?

18 posted on 12/21/2024 9:21:13 AM PST by Chainmail (You can vote your way into Socialism - but you will have to shoot your way out.)
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The difference in travel of a few weeks or months, and years upon years, is immense. Add to that, on our planet, you can assume that the temperature range, and the amount of oxygen and water will be the same from continent to continent. The animals in N America are generally as edible as those in Asia also.

The gamble to travel between stars on a hope and a prayer, is a 100% losing battle. I wouldn’t do it, I would mock those who would.

This planet is all we have, and IMO there is nowhere to go until we are able to travel by the will of our spirit.


23 posted on 12/21/2024 9:27:22 AM PST by Glad2bnuts
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Aliens? Us? Is that one of your Earth jokes?


26 posted on 12/21/2024 9:30:26 AM PST by Billthedrill
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Maybe we were faster than other planets? Imagine how long it would take for other solar systems if they were full of intelligences like Maxine Waters? It would take a while to advance. And then there is also the possibility that other civilizations might self destruct with all their advances so they could never get out of their own solar systems.

If there are others out there who could get here then they likely have mastered respect and learned to control their greed.


29 posted on 12/21/2024 9:31:57 AM PST by Degaston
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They might very well be out there, but with no interest in going on very long space journeys. They might not see any good reason to leave their planet and go exploring other planets. They might see other civilizations as hostile and dangerous.

I don’t know if there’s anybody out there, but it’s reasonable to think that there is intelligent life somewhere in the vast universe.


31 posted on 12/21/2024 9:34:12 AM PST by I want the USA back (Voltaire: To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.)
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My thinking is that civilizations are rare. Being rare, they are widely dispersed. Civilizations end before advancing to the point that they can detect another. Much rarer cases exist where two civilizations end up close enough to one another for detection. Those begin expending resources to destroy the other, but collapse before advancing far enough to do so.


33 posted on 12/21/2024 9:35:17 AM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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I always marveled at the illogic of one of cheezy sci-fi film where an “advanced” civilization - whose inhabitants looked exactly like Japanese earthlings and spoke dubbed-in English - sent a ‘rocket ship’ from their planet of origin to earth, seeking our special formula for - wait for it ...

ROCKET FUEL!!!

It didn’t say, but maybe their elite leaders declared a climate emergency and was forcing the transition from rocket fuel to electric rockets, or something... 🙄😲😉

Guess it proves that the only real constant in the Universe is stupidity.


39 posted on 12/21/2024 9:52:27 AM PST by DJ Frisat (If I said something really stupid, chances are I was under the influence of AutoCorrect. 🙄🫤)
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Earth is the one and only home of life.

All the “aliens” are either demons, or complete nonsense!


42 posted on 12/21/2024 10:13:46 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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I can’t entirely discount the possibility that Earth exists only in the dream, or nightmare, of a sleeping Creator.


45 posted on 12/21/2024 10:26:16 AM PST by PerConPat (The politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.- Mencken)
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The aliens may have decided to keep some planets untouched, like a galaxy park. Some because they are pretty or interesting, some because the inhabitants are just too weird to assimilate.


47 posted on 12/21/2024 10:31:17 AM PST by Doctor Congo
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On this planet, we are so ‘advanced’ that we now allow our doctors to perform “gender affirming care” surgery on our children - turning them into freaks who can’t reproduce.

Those who can still reproduce get ‘abortions’ - meaning they pay doctors to kill their offspring.

The doctors do not go to jail for performing these atrocities - they get paid astonishing amounts. Who goes to jail? Those who object to this insanity.

And it’s not just reproduction that is collapsing - all sorts of crimes are being permitted, and only those who try to stop them get punished.

Who does not think we are self-destructing?
Who needs nuclear Armageddon or global pandemic when we have mind viruses like the trans movement to destroy us?

Maybe this is what became of all the other planets with so-called intelligent life - the very same ‘intelligence’ that would allow them to colonize the galaxy also afforded them the tools for self-destruction.

Sadly, I know an upper middle class couple whose boy, shortly after graduating high school, got the surgery he believes has turned him into a girl. The mother encouraged it saying she always wanted a girl - the father was against it until child psychologists convinced him it was necessary to reduce the likelihood of suicide.

I can’t believe this is really happening but it is.


49 posted on 12/21/2024 10:42:10 AM PST by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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We are constrained by the limits of not our technology but our own thoughts and experiences. Socrates started with the assumption that I know nothing and in that is happiness. This opens our thoughts not to the constraint of our experiences and assumptions but rather to the endless possibilities that exist. But we are eager to find an explanation consistent with our experiences but become engaged in the limits of our thoughts because we have not experienced a fraction of all the experiences out there. Ergo there must be an infinite amount of explanations beside alien life and the drones being extraterrestrial. We must be open to that possibility which will lead us to the truth of which there is only one.

Thus the theory that was a passing thought of Asimov is a very intelligent and Socratic question. If there is intelligent life in our galaxy and given the probable age of our galaxy where is everyone else is a reasonable indirect period of the theorem of there must be intelligent life other than us in our galaxy. Notice it doesn’t say universe. A nuance that is importantly to the philosophical mind


50 posted on 12/21/2024 10:43:23 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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