They can't have disappeared. No ship that small has a cloaking device
Posted on 12/21/2024 8:53:00 AM PST by EBH
Is there some evidence suggesting that humans are the Galaxy’s only intelligent species? Enrico Fermi thought so – and he was a pretty smart guy. Could he be right?
In 1950, the famous physicist made a seemingly innocuous lunchtime remark that has caught and held the attention of every SETI researcher since. The utterance came while Fermi was discussing with his mealtime mates the reasonable possibility that many sophisticated societies populate the Galaxy. But somewhere between one sentence and the next, Fermi’s supple brain realized that if this was true, it implied something profound. If there are really a lot of alien societies, then some of them might have spread out.
Fermi grasped that any civilization with a modest amount of rocket technology and an immodest amount of imperial incentive could rapidly colonize the entire Galaxy. Within a few tens of millions of years, every star system could be brought under the wing of empire. Tens of millions of years may sound like a long project, but in fact it’s quite short compared to the age of the Galaxy, which is roughly a thousand times more.
So what Fermi immediately recognized was that the aliens have had more than enough time to pepper the Galaxy with their presence. But looking around, we don’t see any clear indication that they’re out and about. We don’t see any obvious evidence of a galactic empire or a United Federation of Planets.
This prompted Fermi to ask what was (to him) an obvious question: “where is everybody?”
(Excerpt) Read more at seti.org ...
Earth is a nut house.
Earth is the one and only home of life.
All the “aliens” are either demons, or complete nonsense!
They can't have disappeared. No ship that small has a cloaking device
The Bible tells us that God created us because he was lonely, and wanted to share Love. Given that God characterizes Infinite Love, do you see any sense in Him building a universe with billions of homes, and then populating only one?
I don't.
I can’t entirely discount the possibility that Earth exists only in the dream, or nightmare, of a sleeping Creator.
I'd love to see some proof of that statement.
The aliens may have decided to keep some planets untouched, like a galaxy park. Some because they are pretty or interesting, some because the inhabitants are just too weird to assimilate.
No, it doesn't offer such heretical nonsense. God in no sense "needs" His creation. Nor do you engage with the argument I made in the first place. You accuse God of condemning non-humans (whose existence you have no evidence for) to living under a curse they had no part in, purely on speculation that He is incomplete and needy in contrast with His perfect, transcendant, omnipotent nature. If nothing else one could say the Trinity obviates any need for other persons to share love with.
On this planet, we are so ‘advanced’ that we now allow our doctors to perform “gender affirming care” surgery on our children - turning them into freaks who can’t reproduce.
Those who can still reproduce get ‘abortions’ - meaning they pay doctors to kill their offspring.
The doctors do not go to jail for performing these atrocities - they get paid astonishing amounts. Who goes to jail? Those who object to this insanity.
And it’s not just reproduction that is collapsing - all sorts of crimes are being permitted, and only those who try to stop them get punished.
Who does not think we are self-destructing?
Who needs nuclear Armageddon or global pandemic when we have mind viruses like the trans movement to destroy us?
Maybe this is what became of all the other planets with so-called intelligent life - the very same ‘intelligence’ that would allow them to colonize the galaxy also afforded them the tools for self-destruction.
Sadly, I know an upper middle class couple whose boy, shortly after graduating high school, got the surgery he believes has turned him into a girl. The mother encouraged it saying she always wanted a girl - the father was against it until child psychologists convinced him it was necessary to reduce the likelihood of suicide.
I can’t believe this is really happening but it is.
We are constrained by the limits of not our technology but our own thoughts and experiences. Socrates started with the assumption that I know nothing and in that is happiness. This opens our thoughts not to the constraint of our experiences and assumptions but rather to the endless possibilities that exist. But we are eager to find an explanation consistent with our experiences but become engaged in the limits of our thoughts because we have not experienced a fraction of all the experiences out there. Ergo there must be an infinite amount of explanations beside alien life and the drones being extraterrestrial. We must be open to that possibility which will lead us to the truth of which there is only one.
Thus the theory that was a passing thought of Asimov is a very intelligent and Socratic question. If there is intelligent life in our galaxy and given the probable age of our galaxy where is everyone else is a reasonable indirect period of the theorem of there must be intelligent life other than us in our galaxy. Notice it doesn’t say universe. A nuance that is importantly to the philosophical mind
Please forgive the error. Fermi. Not Asimov
Read the article!
Please quote me on that one.
Don’t forget mutating genome, stacking up heritable defects generation by generation, till an unholy combination of all of them yield a catastrophic failure of the host/offspring...or simply the continual loss of telomeres on the genome......on and on it goes...
Have a nice 😃 day.
An article as proof? That is pretty funny.
Never says God was lonely...but His word says he wants fellowship with his creation......as if he couldn’t handle eternity past and was pining away without us...
Freegards.
I see no basis to argue with that. Point taken.
On the other hand, there is absolutely nothing in the Bible that would indicate the lack of other people-types "out there".
Space is a really, really big place.
And our solar system could very well be in a backwater. I am not saying we are like Arkansas…but maybe we are. And I have relatives from Arkansas….they are nice. So its not THAT bad.
I worked at one of the world’s premiere observatories for almost a decade. Most commentors here don’t have a clue just how expansive our observable universe is. There are many more Galaxies out there than the number of stars in our Milky Way.
Given the physical limitations of our time/space eg. speed of light limitation. There is little chance of contact with aliens.
Without getting too religious on you, I’m sure God did not “put all his eggs in one basket”, but we are spread out enough we’ll never interact. in this time/space. When/if we graduate to God’s time/space then we will understand that which we have no capability of understanding now.
I think once you tackle the energy/speed thing, colonization could be easier if you could quickly search for the right place.
I would send out drones to search, kind of like we’ve been doing for 60 years. When a place that looks promising is found, you take a closer look.
But the energy/speed thing is a BIG thing.
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