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The Unpopular Truth About Electric Vehicles
Youtube ^ | 30 Nov 2024 | Mark P. Mills

Posted on 12/07/2024 6:01:22 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT

It is often taken as a given that electric vehicles are friendlier for the environment and that we will all inevitably be driving them in the future. In this short video, Mark P. Mills of the National Center for Energy Analytics questions the government’s push towards EVs, and whether these “givens” are true.

500,000 pounds of rock to produce ONE batter for one EV.

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500,000 pounds of rock to produce ONE batter for one EV.

And more fun stuff.

Mark Mills is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute and a Faculty Fellow at the McCormick School of Engineering and Applied Science at Northwestern University.

1 posted on 12/07/2024 6:01:22 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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2 posted on 12/07/2024 6:14:21 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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One batter?

Car or cake?


3 posted on 12/07/2024 6:14:36 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Are you on the right thread?


4 posted on 12/07/2024 6:18:30 PM PST by citizen (Political incrementalism is like compound interest for liberals - every little bit adds up.)
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To: citizen

Yes. Look at the last quoted line in the OP.


5 posted on 12/07/2024 6:19:51 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

... or is this the first government-pushed technology change that is not designed to line the pockets of our political leadership?


6 posted on 12/07/2024 6:20:18 PM PST by The Duke (Not without incident.)
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To: The Duke

LOL!

Ten percent for The Big Guy.


7 posted on 12/07/2024 6:21:31 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: citizen

Well, it is a batter isn’t it?


8 posted on 12/07/2024 6:21:39 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

500,000 pounds = 250 tons!

It takes a LOT of energy to excavate, transport, process and dispose of the remainder of 250 tons of anything.


9 posted on 12/07/2024 6:21:45 PM PST by citizen (Political incrementalism is like compound interest for liberals - every little bit adds up.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Oh, I see. The poster misspelled battery. My mistake.

I thought maybe the Yankee was named Mark Mills.


10 posted on 12/07/2024 6:24:28 PM PST by citizen (Political incrementalism is like compound interest for liberals - every little bit adds up.)
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To: Olog-hai

An unfortunate error, as it’s gauranteed to misdirect the thread comments lol


11 posted on 12/07/2024 6:26:12 PM PST by citizen (Political incrementalism is like compound interest for liberals - every little bit adds up.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The flaw, as I see it, is that batteries make a lot of sense - when stationary. Dragging one or more around with you is where they become stupid.

The “battery” for your ICE car is actually the atmosphere. Oxygen is a tremendous energy source and is continually renewed in the atmosphere by the Earth’s plants. It turns out that oxygen can produce usable energy with a large number of easily accessible carbon compounds. Your ICE car carries one of these around with it. What it carries around with it is liquid, reasonably dense and reasonably safe. It can even afford to be grossly inefficient in utilization, since the atmosphere is helping to produce energy. When the energy is used up, so is the liquid.

An electric battery turns out to weigh the same, whether it is charged or empty. Everything needed to produce energy has to be carried. They are a terrible idea for a mobile power source, in my opinion.


12 posted on 12/07/2024 6:30:39 PM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: DUMBGRUNT

From the video:

1. Expensive (and will be for forseeable future)

2. Inconvenient (for most)

3. Make us MORE DEPENDENT on China

If half of all cars ON THE PLANET were EVs, it only would reduce oil consumption bu 10%.

To make a 1000-lb EV battery requires the minimg of 500,000-lbs of earth.


13 posted on 12/07/2024 7:02:25 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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I tried baking an EV once, but the batter weighed a ton.


14 posted on 12/07/2024 7:04:10 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: citizen

Not to mention the social and morality issues.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4764208/Child-miners-aged-four-living-hell-Earth.html

Thankfully Tesla is coming out with a battery that uses little or no cobalt.


15 posted on 12/07/2024 7:15:36 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Before you post a nasty, stop and think: "Would that person slap me if I said it in person?" )
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If I read this correctly, really only batters should be buying/using EVs. The rest of us should stick to ICE automobiles.


16 posted on 12/07/2024 7:23:50 PM PST by BipolarBob (Enough of this talk about narcissists, let's get back to talking about me.)
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To: citizen
An unfortunate error, as it’s gauranteed to misdirect the thread comments lol

That can be fun...

17 posted on 12/07/2024 7:32:24 PM PST by GOPJ (Should a 30 year old man self-identified as being ten, be allowed to play little league baseball?)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

You explained your point of view very well. I agree with it.


18 posted on 12/07/2024 7:44:03 PM PST by Glad2bnuts
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Tesla is a beautiful scam, as is Elons rocketing skills. All of this for a net loss to Earths resources, and peoples money.


19 posted on 12/07/2024 7:45:49 PM PST by Glad2bnuts
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To: logi_cal869

From what I’ve seen, they’re self- baking.

CC


20 posted on 12/07/2024 10:06:56 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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