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Many Catholics in the U.S. and Latin America Want the Church to Allow Birth Control and to Let Women Become Priests
pew research ^ | September 26, 2024 | Jonathan Evans and Kelsey Jo Starr

Posted on 12/02/2024 2:21:56 PM PST by daniel1212

Most Catholics in all seven countries want the church to allow Catholics to use birth control.

In most of the countries surveyed, majorities of Catholics also say the church should allow women to become priests.

Opinion is more divided on whether the church should allow priests to get married.

Views on whether the church should recognize the marriages of gay and lesbian couples vary among Catholics in the countries surveyed.

Ten years ago, nearly all Catholics surveyed there (98%) expressed a favorable opinion of Francis, compared with 74% today.



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To: Petrosius
Paul says that "God will judge people's hidden works through Jesus Christ." This is aboutbelievers.

Really?

'People' now means BELIEVERS?

261 posted on 12/04/2024 7:56:54 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
It includes believing in all that he taught

INCLUDES???

262 posted on 12/04/2024 7:58:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
But Catholics do not believe that the Law, i.e., the Mosaic Law, or the works of that Law saves anyone.

You are a Catholic. Do you publically admit that you believe the following?

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED. 

Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.
(Leo XIII: Adiutricem populi, September 5, 1895) — [p. 19, no. 44]

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

She says, "He that shall find Me shall find life, and shall have salvation from the Lord.   "Qui me invenerit, inveniet vitam, et hauriet salutem a Domino."

Listen," exclaims St. Bonaventure on these words, "listen, all you who desire the kingdom of God: honor the most Blessed Virgin Mary, and you will find life and eternal salvation."  "Audite qui ingredi cupitis regnum Dei: Virginem Mariam honorate, et invenietis vitam et salutem perpetuam."-psalt. B.V.ps.48.

Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

“The Catholic Church has always and with justice put all her hope and trust in the Mother of God.”

(Leo XIII: Encyclical, Supreme Apostolatus, September 1, 1883.) — [p. 32, no. 104]



"Only She Can Help You"
by Father Nicholas Gruner, S.T.L., S.T.D. (Cand.)
In this letter introducing The Fatima Crusader Issue 38, Father Gruner discusses the growing lies and deception about Russia's errors and the consecration of that nation. He also reminds us that, while it is urgent that we be informed about and fight for Our Lady's cause, we must ask for Her help and intercession.

 

Mary Leads Her Servants to Heaven
by St. Alphonsus de Liguori
In this article taken from The Glories of Mary, Saint Alphonsus explains that there are countless souls in Heaven who are there now only because Mary, by Her powerful intercession, led them there. If a soul persists in true devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary, She will certainly lead that soul to Heaven.

 



The Rosary
by Father Stefano Manelli, S.T.D.
It is greatly important that Our Lady insisted on the Rosary. When at Fatima She spoke of the salvation of sinners, of the ruin of souls in hell, of wars and peace, and of the future of our age. Our Lady indicated and recommended the Rosary as the prayer that saves, that brings peace, that preserves the faith.

Mary, Our Life, Our Sweetness, Our Hope
by St. Alphonsus de Liguori
St. Alphonsus de Liguori explains how Mary is our life, how She is our sweetness, and how She is our hope.

The historical record of the worship of Mary accumulated by St. Alphonsus de Liguori who wrote “The Glories of Mary” in the year 1745, which has been since translated into English and printed again and again and again with the full affirmation and imprimatur of the official Roman Catholic Church.  In this book there is the sum of all the glories of Mary which has been vouchsafe to the Roman Catholic Church and the Church itself calls upon all its constituents to give Mary that honor she is due.  She is identified as Mary, our Queen; Mary, our mother; Mary, our life; Mary, our sweetness; Mary, our hope; Mary, our help; Mary, our Mediatress; Mary, our advocate; Mary, our guardian; and Mary, our salvation.  It is said that Mary delivers us from hell, Mary delivers us from purgatory, and Mary leads us to heaven.  And it should be said that de Liguori, who collected all the Marion dogma and devotion, was himself one of the most celebrated and revered authorities in the Roman Catholic Church.  De Liguori was himself a cardinal in life, and a saint in death.

 

Jesus said "Without Me you can do nothing". In this crisis which looms ahead of us, Our Lady has told us that we need Her help, Her intercession. We must ask for Her help with the Rosary and the Scapular.

At Fatima, Our Lady told us very plainly that "Only I can help you". Today more than ever is this so true.

Pray the Rosary and sacrifice yourself for Our Lady.

 

 Jesus and Mary — Our Hope

It is so urgent that we reach as many souls as possible before it is too late. Let us be of good cheer and remember the words of Jesus to each of us, "It's never too late to have recourse to Jesus and Mary." That is why it is so important to reach the many millions of souls who do not know this, and who do not know the grave dangers lying in wait for their souls.

No, we must never lose hope. Mary is our hope. She can obtain for us what we cannot by ourselves. Read what St. Alphonsus has to say regarding confidence in Our Lady's intercession in "Mary Leads Her Servants to Heaven". Father Manelli also reminds us of the importance of devotion to Our Lady. (See "Hail Mary, Full of Grace"). Our Blessed Mother tells us to turn to Her in confidence. She tells us repeatedly to ask Her intercession through the frequent fervent praying of the Rosary. (See "The Rosary"). She tells us we must pray the Rosary every day. She wants us to pray it many times a day.

 

http://fatima.org/crusader/cr38/cr38pg2.asp



O, how many blessed souls are now in Heaven who would never have been there had not Mary, by Her powerful intercession, led them thither. I made that in the heavens there should rise light that never faileth. Cardinal Hugo, in his commentary on the above text of Ecclesiasticus, says in the name of Mary, "I have caused as many saints in Heaven through Her intercession, who would never have been there but through Her ."

...in the words of St. Ambrose, "Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since Thou hast its keys." "Aperi nobis, O Virgo coelum, cujus claves habes." Nay more, the Church says, that "Thou art its gate." 

 


 23.  "Coeleste nobis regnum, suo interventu auxiliis, et precibus, impetravit."—Paciucch. Sup. Salve Reg. exc. I.
 24. "Qui Virgini famulatur, ita securus est de paradiso, ac si esset in paradiso."
 25. "Summus honor, servire Mariæ, et de ejus esse familia; etenim ei servire, regnare est; et ejus agi frænis, summa libertas."
 26. "Gens quæ non servierit illi, peribit; gentes destitutæ tantæ Matris auxilio, destituuntur auxilio Filii et totius curi’‘ coelestis."— De Laud. B. M. I. 4.

St. Antoninus tells us "that this divine Mother has already, by Her assistance and prayers, obtained Heaven for us, provided we put no obstacle in the way."23

Hence, says Abbot Guerric, "he who serves Mary, and for whom She intercedes, is as certain of Heaven as if he was already there."24

St. John Damascene also says, "that to serve Mary and be Her courtier is the greatest honor we can possibly possess; for to serve the Queen of Heaven is already to reign there, and live under Her commands is more than to govern."25

On the other hand, he adds, "that those who do not serve Mary will not be saved; for those who are deprived of the help of this great Mother are also deprived of that of Her Son and of the whole court of heaven."26

 

Cardinal Hugo http://fatima.org/crusader/cr38/cr38pg3.asp 

 

 
 

263 posted on 12/04/2024 8:02:09 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
... sola fide is contrary to Scripture.

Justificatio sola fide (or simply sola fide), meaning justification by faith alone, is a soteriological doctrine in Christian theology commonly held to distinguish the Lutheran and Reformed traditions of Protestantism, among others, from the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Assyrian and Anabaptist churches.

The doctrine asserts that it is on the basis of faith alone that believers are made right of sin (such as their transgressions of divine law); and not on the basis of what Paul the Apostle calls "works of the law", which sola fide proponents interpret as including not only moral, legal or ceremonial requirements but any good works or "works of charity."

264 posted on 12/04/2024 8:09:59 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius

Fifteen times the word FAITH was used in Galatians 3.

I guess that chapter isn’t considered to be Scripture by Rome - or you.


265 posted on 12/04/2024 8:12:55 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
We are thus left without assurance of what is and what is not Scripture.

Well then, can we agree that what we DO have as being 'scripture' is enough to get someone into heaven?

266 posted on 12/04/2024 8:15:25 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
I tend to balance that with a couple of pages of authentic Catholic early church 'father' quotes.

Surely no FR Catholic will complain about them - right?



267 posted on 12/04/2024 8:27:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Heck, all we need in that case is John's writings.

John 20:30-31 Many other signs also did Jesus in the sight of his disciples, which are not written in this book. But these are written, that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God: and that believing, you may have life in his name.

1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.

268 posted on 12/04/2024 11:21:47 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: metmom

1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
 
 
But, but Rome says...
 
 
 
They've got to be taught,
before it's too late.
Before they are six,
or seven or eight...

269 posted on 12/05/2024 3:57:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Let’s go a DIFFERENT direction...

https://theconversation.com/ai-jesus-might-listen-to-your-confession-but-it-cant-absolve-your-sins-a-scholar-of-catholicism-explains-244468


270 posted on 12/05/2024 4:25:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
You are still not addressing the clear teaching of Paul. You are arguing from a philosophical assumption, not from Scripture. Do you not accept Scripture?

Because even if you were capable of leading an absolutely pure, sin free life for the rest of your life, you would still not make it into heaven because of the magnitude of the sin debt you already have stacked against you.

Unless you accept Jesus offer of eternal life and have that sin debt canceled.

Which I do every time I go to confession. There I receive forgiveness just by asking for it. I do not have to do anything to earn it. But that does not mean that I can then go and continue to sin with abandon. Again, Paul is explicit, those who continue in sin (remember he is writing to believing Christians) will not inherit the kingdom of God. Are you ever going to acknowledge this teaching?

271 posted on 12/05/2024 10:31:53 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: metmom
Paul never addressed himself as *Father Paul*, nor did anyone else in Scripture.

No, but he did call himself father. Was Paul disobeying Jesus? And if Jesus was just talking about the word, what do you call your mother's husband? What staggers the mind is reducing our Lord's teaching about a relationship to the mere use of a word.

272 posted on 12/05/2024 10:35:44 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Elsie
Did you not read verse 17:
And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
The references to the law here are to the law that came 430 after the covenant with Abraham, i.e. the Law of Moses, not the eternal moral law that precedes it and is binding on everyone, not just those under the Mosaic covenant. Again:
For you were called for freedom, brothers. But do not use this freedom as an opportunity for the flesh; rather, serve one another through love. For the whole lawk is fulfilled in one statement, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” But if you go on biting and devouring one another, beware that you are not consumed by one another. I say, then: live by the Spirit and you will certainly not gratify the desire of the flesh. For the flesh has desires against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; these are opposed to each other, so that you may not do what you want. But if you are guided by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are obvious: immorality, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, rivalry, jealousy, outbursts of fury, acts of selfishness, dissensions, factions, occasions of envy, drinking bouts, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Gal.5:16-21)
Paul is writing to believing Christians. How much clearer does Scripture have to be show that we can loose our salvation through sin?
273 posted on 12/05/2024 10:50:24 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Elsie
Fifteen times the word FAITH was used in Galatians 3.

I guess that chapter isn’t considered to be Scripture by Rome - or you.

And where have ever said that faith was not necessary? But this is quite different than you claim that it by faith alone.

274 posted on 12/05/2024 10:53:46 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Elsie
Well then, can we agree that what we DO have as being 'scripture' is enough to get someone into heaven?

No, because as is clear in our discussion is that we can have radically different interpretations of Scripture.

275 posted on 12/05/2024 10:55:40 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
Did you not read verse ...

Are you off subject?

 
Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

276 posted on 12/05/2024 2:41:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
And where have ever said that faith was not necessary? But this is quite different than you claim that it by faith alone.

So - what have you found in chapter 3 besides fatih that is needed?

277 posted on 12/05/2024 2:43:00 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
... we can have radically different interpretations of Scripture.

Then Rome should have put a concordance in the bible so ignorant folks would know EXACTLY how to interpret the words.

(I know Rome has TRIED to do the job with it's catechism teaching, but, as can be plainly seen on FR, that hasn't worked too well.)

278 posted on 12/05/2024 2:46:05 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I always thought that becoming a Christian was a wonderful experience, but then - what do I know?

https://www.catholic.com/tract/how-to-become-a-catholic


A person who is baptized in the Catholic Church becomes a Catholic at that moment. One’s initiation is deepened by confirmation and the Eucharist, but one becomes a Catholic at baptism. This is true for children who are baptized Catholic (and receive the other two sacraments later) and for adults who are baptized, confirmed, and receive the Eucharist at the same time.


279 posted on 12/05/2024 2:50:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Works of the Mosaic Law. Why do you keep ignoring this point. Paul makes this clear in verse 17, which you seem to ignore. And since he also says that continuing in sin can bar us from the kingdom of God, keeping the moral law is also needed in addition to faith. Another point you keep ignoring.

280 posted on 12/05/2024 5:27:34 PM PST by Petrosius
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