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How Democrats Can Regain the Upper Hand
The New York Times ^ | Nov. 20, 2024, 5:04 a.m. ET | Thomas B. Edsall

Posted on 11/20/2024 1:54:30 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

There have been repeated clashes between the left and the center of the Democratic Party over the past 50-plus years, especially in the presidential nomination contests of 1968, 1972, 1984, 1992, 2016 and 2020. The post-election debate is now in full flower, with left-wing and centrist Democrats blaming each other for the loss.

The selection of Kamala Harris, a woman of Black and South Asian ancestry as the nominee, might have accentuated the perception of the Democratic Party as more progressive on race and gender and made some voters feel alienated or concerned about the direction of the party.

As my Times colleagues Erica L. Green and Maya King wrote on Nov. 7, in “For Black Women, America Has Revealed to Us Her True Self”:

The worst of what many Black women believed about their country: that it would rather choose a man who was convicted of 34 felonies, has spewed lies and falsehoods, disparaged women and people of color and pledged to use the powers of the federal government to punish his political opponents than send a woman of color to the White House.

The ascendance within the Democratic Party of well-educated white people holding very liberal views has, in fact, pushed the party to the left of the mainstream. This intraparty ideological shift raises another question for 2026 and 2028: Have the forces supporting unpopular progressive policies in the general electorate become strong enough to successfully push back against the calls coming from Democratic pragmatists for centrist retrenchment on such issues as immigration, policing and the promotion of diversity, equity and inclusion?

In a Nov. 15 article, “Trump Broke the Democrats’ Thermostat,” John Burn-Murdoch of The Financial Times wrote:

The data shows Democrats taking a sharp turn leftward on social issues over the past decade. This has...


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Denial; it's not just a river in Egypt.
1 posted on 11/20/2024 1:54:30 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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Erica L. Green, Maya King and Thomas B. Edsall are racist Know-Nothings.


2 posted on 11/20/2024 1:57:17 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

later


3 posted on 11/20/2024 1:57:50 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

More cheating!


4 posted on 11/20/2024 1:59:56 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Hey NYT nutjobs: you can’t. You lost; get over it.

It’s our turn to subjugate you and grind you into dust, so just embrace the suck for a little while.


5 posted on 11/20/2024 2:00:19 PM PST by cross_bearer_02
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They need to make louder and more frequent comparisons to Hitler!


6 posted on 11/20/2024 2:00:20 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: cross_bearer_02

Well said.


7 posted on 11/20/2024 2:01:34 PM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That’s right.


8 posted on 11/20/2024 2:01:46 PM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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We let the Black women down.

I feel bad now.

Nice to see the NYT is not going to let up on the race pandering. Full speed ahead, NYT!


9 posted on 11/20/2024 2:01:51 PM PST by Rinnwald
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And don’t forget Mussolini, the confederates and the Taliban.


10 posted on 11/20/2024 2:02:29 PM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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The worst of what many Black women believed about their country: that it would rather choose a man who was convicted of 34 felonies, has spewed lies and falsehoods, disparaged women and people of color and pledged to use the powers of the federal government to punish his political opponents than send a woman of color to the White House.

Maybe the term "Fellatrix-In-Chief" swirls nicely in the mouths of Erica L. Green and Maya King, like a cold swaller of Chardonnay - but most people had a problem with a mental vision of the back of KamaLOL's head, face down in Willie Brown's lap.

11 posted on 11/20/2024 2:02:38 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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As Candice Owens has shown, Kamala is not black, her bio is a fabrication. Black people know this is true and they resent it when someone lies about their racial credentials. This is a big reason why she lost support in the black community.


12 posted on 11/20/2024 2:04:44 PM PST by Western Patriot (Give me liberty or give me death.)
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Mr. Edsall clearly displays the reliance of the Democrat Party on identity politics and the very reason that America should avoid it. Per Mr. Edsall, Kamala lost because she was a black woman. He offers nothing to support her based on qualification. He ignores the fact that prior to assuming the nomination her approval rating was the lowest in history for any Vice President. He therefore present no basis for her approval ratings significantly jumping based only on the fact that she was assuming the Democrat Party nomination for President. It seems the only element changing was that she was a black woman running for president; identity politics on display.


13 posted on 11/20/2024 2:05:10 PM PST by CMAC51
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How Democrats Can Regain the Upper Hand

Carry a tube of Brylcreem around with them all of the time.

14 posted on 11/20/2024 2:06:09 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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As Candice Owens has shown, Kamala is not black, her bio is a fabrication. Black people know this is true and they resent it when someone lies about their racial credentials. This is a big reason why she lost support in the black community.


15 posted on 11/20/2024 2:06:17 PM PST by Western Patriot (Give me liberty or give me death.)
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“The selection of Kamala Harris, a woman of Black and South Asian ancestry as the nominee”

This is exactly why the dems lost.
1) They selected K. Zero votes/zero following.
2) Her ethnicity is not a qualification.

The majority of voters are not dumb. We saw right through it.


16 posted on 11/20/2024 2:10:46 PM PST by TonyinLA (I have insufficient information to formulate a reasoned opinion said no lefty ever.)
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“34 felonies”

COUNT VERDICT BUSINESS RECORD DATE
1 Guilty Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust Feb. 14, 2017
2 Guilty Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 842457 Feb. 14, 2017
3 Guilty Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 842460 Feb. 14, 2017
4 Guilty Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust Account, bearing check number 000138 Feb. 14, 2017
5 Guilty Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust March 16, 2017
6 Guilty Entry in the Detail General Ledger for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, bearing voucher number 846907 March 17, 2017
7 Guilty Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust Account, bearing check number 000147 March 17, 2017
8 Guilty Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump April 13, 2017
9 Guilty Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 858770 June 19, 2017
10 Guilty Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002740 June 19, 2017
11 Guilty Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump May 22, 2017
12 Guilty Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 855331 May 22, 2017
13 Guilty Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002700 May 23, 2017
14 Guilty Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump June 16, 2017
15 Guilty Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 858772 June 19, 2017
16 Guilty Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002741 June 19, 2017
17 Guilty Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump July 11, 2017
18 Guilty Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 861096 July 11, 2017
19 Guilty Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002781 July 11, 2017
20 Guilty Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump Aug. 1, 2017
21 Guilty Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 863641 Aug. 1, 2017
22 Guilty Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002821 Aug. 1, 2017
23 Guilty Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump Sept. 11, 2017
24 Guilty Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 868174 Sept. 11, 2017
25 Guilty Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002908 Sept. 12, 2017
26 Guilty Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump Oct. 18, 2017
27 Guilty Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 872654 Oct. 18, 2017
28 Guilty Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002944 Oct. 18, 2017
29 Guilty Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump Nov. 20, 2017
30 Guilty Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 876511 Nov. 20, 2017
31 Guilty Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 002980 Nov. 21, 2017
32 Guilty Invoice from Michael Cohen, marked as a record of Donald J. Trump Dec. 1, 2017
33 Guilty Entry in the Detail General Ledger for Donald J. Trump, bearing voucher number 877785 Dec. 1, 2017
34 Guilty Check and check stub, Donald J. Trump account, bearing check number 003006 Dec. 5, 2017

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1848/trump-hush-money-trial-34-counts

Your lawyer sends you a bill and you become a criminal.

What a country!

Your accountants pay your lawyer’s bill and you become a criminal.

What a country!


17 posted on 11/20/2024 2:15:19 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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Faith in Al Gore cost Kamala Pennsylvania and Michigan.


18 posted on 11/20/2024 2:21:27 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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If anything, the Rats will double down on their radical agenda, trying to convince people once again that the people who voted for Trump are just racists, misogynists, Nazis, sexists, bigoted, backwards sister-marrying idiots and that THEY are the enlightened ones.


19 posted on 11/20/2024 2:24:21 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Before you post a nasty, stop and think: "Would that person slap me if I said it in person?" )
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Move to Cuba.


20 posted on 11/20/2024 2:49:34 PM PST by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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