Posted on 11/14/2024 1:01:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
Well perhaps it would be best not to spread outrageous, disgusting lies on a media platform about people who went through a horrific event in their lives and just expect them not to sue for defamation.
It is ridiculous to paint him as a victim. Defamation is not free speech. Never has been.
I was perusing Free Republic earlier today and I came across your commentary in a discussion with "Fantasywriter" regarding "Pizzagate."
I assume you still think it is absolute nonsense and that there is nothing there that smells bad?
I have noticed over the years, that a lot of "conspiracy theories" have turned out to be correct.
You think a billion dollar judgement against him is rational? That it is the product of a fair and rational system of justice?
He isn't the only victim here. Any nation that tolerates such an out of control court system will also be a victim of it eventually.
Any nation that tolerates such an out of control court system will also be a victim of it eventually.
Amen
I guess, in your opinion, Mr. Robinson was wrong to prohibit links to Jones after he called 9-11 an inside job.
(There is ‘speech’ and then there is falsely yelling fire in a crowded theater.)
Well I think that is nutty too, but the real issue here is a *BILLION DOLLAR* judgement.
That's totalitarian stuff. That's not justice, that's equivalent to a civil death penalty.
Despite what people like to claim this wasn’t the government suing Jones. These were private individuals who claimed to have been harmed by Jones.
The parents sued for damages that resulted from Jones broadcasting stories that he knew were untrue, based upon his own admission.
He had been saying that the parents lied about their children being killed and that that they were involved in promoting a massacre that didn’t happen.
But Jones was the one lying. He was engaged in a wreckless disregard for the truth for the purpose of making a profit. It provided him with a good story to keep his listeners tuned in.
This is a case of FAFO. Don’t publicly defame private individuals and harm their reputations. Don’t put them at risk of personal harm from people who believe your fake story. Most of us would know better than to do that, just out of common decency and a higher regard for honesty than Alex Jones possesses.
The judge overseeing Alex Jones’s Infowars case just ordered a hearing into how the Onion won the bidding after Alex’s lawyers alleged that the trustee overseeing the auction rigged it at the last minute to allow the Onion to win
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4278498/posts
It was lawfare. It had nothing to do with justice. The ambulance chasers even admitted in court that they didn't care if their clients got a single penny, they just wanted Jones "deplatformed" and silenced forever.
The Sandy Hook families didn't even know Jones had spent twenty minutes of his show 3 hours a day 5 days a week show on Sandy Hook until 5 years after the fact when the ambulance chasers recruited them.
I dare you to explain to me how that is worth a billion dollars anywhere but Idiocracy world.
Let me know what that amount boils down to for each of the litigants.
Those buildings are all vertical. Maybe you should try to find a pic of one that has fallen over on its side, like you apparently think is normal, according to your extensive knowledge of building collapse caused by fire.
The day before the “auction” the trustee declared bidding would be sealed and each bidder could only make a single bid and there would be no competitive bidding and the bids would not be made public. IOW, a Star Chamber auction.
Furthermore, it was supposed to be confirmed beforehand that all the bidders had the cash on hand, but evidently nobody confirmed The Onion’s cash position.
Now you are just making siht up. Go away, little girl.
The actions against Alex Jones are of the same character. The lead attorney for the Sandy Hook plaintiffs came from a law firm which has close ties to the Connecticut Democratic Party. That attorney unsuccessfully ran for the Democratic nomination for state attorney general. The law firm was more than an ambulance chaser. After Hillary Clinton's defeat in the 2016 Presidential election, the upper echelons of the Deep State, specifically Obama's "stay behind" networks in the Federal government and the Democratic leadership determined to silence their critics, whom they blamed for spreading "disinformation" that pulled down her candidacy. Jones was denounced by Hillary by name, as were the Russians, James Comey, and others.
The lawsuits against Jones began in Connecticut in 2018, six years after the shootings Another lawsuit was pursued in Texas. Both jurisdictions (Fairfield County, Connecticut and Travis County, Texas) are notoriously leftist. The former is an upper income suburb of New York that Kamala Harris carried by 20 percentage points last week; the latter covers Austin and is home to the state government and the University of Texas, and Kamala carried the county by 39 percentage points. You would be hard pressed to find a more anti-conservative, anti-American environment than these two counties.
The "trials" against Jones, as well as those against Trump, Flynn, Stone, and others, were the equivalent of Soviet or Red Chinese show trials. Their intent was to silence and bankrupt Jones. Their attempts brought about the "Streisand effect" and made him far more prominent than he had been before the trials.
And when Twitter banned Trump, and Facebook banned Trump, and Youtube censored topics that Democrats didn't like, these were all private companies doing what they wanted. The government had nothing to do with it.
The parents sued for damages that resulted from Jones broadcasting stories that he knew were untrue, based upon his own admission.
Let's say I concede all of that. What should the penalty be?
But Jones was the one lying. He was engaged in a wreckless disregard for the truth for the purpose of making a profit. It provided him with a good story to keep his listeners tuned in.
Let's say I concede all that. What should the penalty be?
This is a case of FAFO. Don’t publicly defame private individuals and harm their reputations. Don’t put them at risk of personal harm from people who believe your fake story. Most of us would know better than to do that, just out of common decency and a higher regard for honesty than Alex Jones possesses.
Let's say I concede all that. What should the penalty be?
No. You tell me what is a fair and reasonable price for what he is accused of doing.
I want you to explain how a billion dollars penalty makes sense in your world.
Why shouldn't it be 10 billion? Why shouldn't it be 100 billion? Or is that getting silly?
You tell me how many people sued him. 26 people were killed, 20 of them children.
And your information conforms to bits and pieces I have picked up elsewhere.
“I was perusing Free Republic earlier today and I came across your commentary in a discussion with “Fantasywriter” regarding “Pizzagate.” I assume you still think it is absolute nonsense and that there is nothing there that smells bad?”
Central to one of the Pizzagate crowd’s bigger stories was the claim that a pedo ring was holding children captive in the basement of Comet Ping Pong, a local DC pizza joint with connections to big name Democrats.
Some poor guy from out of state believed these rumor mongers and he showed up, armed, to free the children. But there is no basement at Comet Ping Pong. And there were no captive children. The only thing that the Pizzagate loons managed to do was get Edgar Welch of NC arrested.
So yes, something about Pizzagate smells bad. It’s the willingness of irresponsible people to deal in gossip that ends up getting well intentioned people into big trouble.
Pizzagate was a rerun of the McMartin Preschool hysteria that played out in SoCal back in 1983. That one blew up the preschool and the lives of some innocent people who ran it. The Pizzagate loons often cited McMartin which is no surprise.
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