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Oregon paramedics reportedly hit a cyclist, rushed him to the hospital, then sent him a bill for $1,800
notthebee.com ^ | Nov 10, 2024 | Mister Retrops

Posted on 11/10/2024 7:42:36 AM PST by airdalechief

71-year-old William Hoesch was out riding his bike in Ranier, Oregon, when he was struck by a vehicle. Luckily, the vehicle that hit him was an ambulance right outside a firehouse.

The ambulance driver said that he turned right and heard a thump. He and his coworker got out to see what they had hit. The pair-o'-medics found Hoesch's bike under their tire, and Hoesch in bad shape on the pavement.

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The paramedics promptly scooped him up and rushed him to the hospital. When his fractured nose, lacerations, and injuries were treated, Hoesch found himself looking at a ton of medical bills. Included in those numbers was a bill from Columbia River Fire & Rescue for a $1,862 ambulance ride.

They ran him over, and then charged him for doing it.

Needless to say, Hoesch is suing the company. His lawyer Travis Mayor says the ambulance bill is "among about $47,000 in medical expenses that Hoesch has racked up so far and another $50,000 of medical costs he expects in the future."

The lawsuit is also seeking $900,000 because he has suffered "decreased range of motion, reduced grip strength and other issues."

I hope he gets every stinking penny!

1 posted on 11/10/2024 7:42:36 AM PST by airdalechief
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To: airdalechief

It’s Oregon.


2 posted on 11/10/2024 7:44:58 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: conservative_cyclist; ten18; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; ...
If you would like more information about what’s happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me. Please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.
3 posted on 11/10/2024 7:45:00 AM PST by Twotone ( What's the difference between a politician & a flying pig? The letter "F.")
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To: airdalechief

I’m sure the taxpayers are thrilled


4 posted on 11/10/2024 7:46:19 AM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: airdalechief

“They ran him over, and then charged him for doing it.”

Kinda like Portland Antifa/BLM torching an entire community only to have the Biden regime charge $12,000 in interest for emergency catastrophe funds they deduct from my social security checks every month.

Believe me, no one in Oregon gives a damn.


5 posted on 11/10/2024 7:47:58 AM PST by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: airdalechief

They ran him over, and then charged him for doing it.


let’s do a little thinking here of the process.

The paramedics did not send the bill. They wrote a report as required. We don’t know what it says, do reports ever get read?

This is institutional operation at its finest.

We look here and think people and common sense exist.


6 posted on 11/10/2024 7:48:48 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: airdalechief

related story

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4276518/posts


7 posted on 11/10/2024 7:49:49 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Brilliant
Who thinks ambulances operate at no cost ?

How much does an ambulance ride cost in Oregon?
Ambulance Rates
Ambulance Transport - Base Rate
Basic Life Support (BLS)	$1,375.00
Advanced Life Support (ALS)	$1,850.00
Advanced Life Support (ALS 2)	$1,850.00
Specialty Care Transport (SCT)	$1,850.00


Yes, Oregon covers ambulance transport in some cases: 
 
Oregon Health Plan
Covers ambulance transport and air ambulance as part of emergency services. 
 
AirMedCare Network
Offers ground membership that waives the bill for emergency ground medical transports. 
 
FireMed
Offers annual membership plans that cover emergency ambulance transportation for household members. 
 
Pacific West Ambulance
Offers LifeGuard membership plans that cover emergency transport for household members. 
 
Ambulance transport is required when a medical professional deems it necessary for a patient's medical condition. This includes neonatal transports. 
 
OregonHealthCare.gov : What’s included in Marketplace coverage? : Blog : State of Oregon
Oregon Health Insurance Marketplace
Capital FireMed | Salem, Oregon
Capital FireMed was started in the Salem area in 1987 to make ambulance transport more affordable. The concept is simple. Capital ...
Salem, Oregon
Ground - Overview - AirMedCare Network
Even with good medical insurance, a bill will usually follow an emergency ambulance transport. Non-members pay it themselves. With...

AirMedCare Network

8 posted on 11/10/2024 7:52:37 AM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: airdalechief

“71-year-old William Hoesch”

Being that it’s a 71 year old who they hit, I won’t post the comment that was in my mind.


9 posted on 11/10/2024 8:03:54 AM PST by BobL
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To: airdalechief

Sending a Fraudulent demand for Payment through the US Postal Service used to be a FELONY, it’s called Mail Fraud...


10 posted on 11/10/2024 8:06:25 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: airdalechief

With my modest awareness of medical billing systems, I can see how the “system” would do this without it really being intentional on the part of the paramedics. Still, they should have had the awareness and the decency to have offered to the victim to pay any bills that came up.


11 posted on 11/10/2024 8:16:35 AM PST by EnderWiggin1970
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To: Brilliant

Was the driver a DEI hire?


12 posted on 11/10/2024 8:23:06 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT back in 2006ttsee)
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To: EnderWiggin1970

In my experience here’s how it likely worked. Each person entering data has something like a McDonald’s screen. If there isn’t a selection for “we did this and should be responsible” then the next closest thing is selected. “Bill the patient.”


13 posted on 11/10/2024 8:25:25 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: airdalechief

We are told all the time that bicyclists have the same right to use the road as cars. As such, they have to obey the same rules of the road as cars. In this case, it seems to me the issue is who is at fault for the accident. If lights are on, the bicyclist has to give way to the ambulance.


14 posted on 11/10/2024 8:26:27 AM PST by alternatives?
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To: airdalechief

15 posted on 11/10/2024 8:28:55 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: airdalechief
Ladies and gentlemen what we have here is an unforced error. Seen way to often these days making everyone in business look bad. Today we are going to discuss the principle of “You break it, you bought it.”

When you, and this does include any employees, without question, damaged someone or something you take steps make it right immediately. This started out fine with the ambulance taking the person they injured to the hospital. You made a mistake, you applied what remedy you had to hand. So far, so good.

And then you went so wrong. You should have written off the cost of the ride and offered to pay his medical bills. This is why you have insurance.

This does not make you judgment proof but it does look nice in the papers and before the jury if you do get sued.

You made a mistake but all of that is forgivable in the public perception if you try to make it right. You even get bonus points for trying.

The way this shook out you look like jerks. And that is where punitive damages will arise.

Thank you for attending "Common Sense in Business 102". Tune in next week when we will discuss "Keeping your word, why that agreement you made actually is binding".

16 posted on 11/10/2024 8:39:58 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: airdalechief

makes good business sense

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17 posted on 11/10/2024 8:41:53 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: airdalechief

Dems eating their own. The bicycle rider is most likely a liberal fool. No conservative I know rides a bicycle.


18 posted on 11/10/2024 8:43:07 AM PST by nwrep
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To: airdalechief

Around here, the fire department ambulances are out of network with the insurers.

Think twice before calling 911.


19 posted on 11/10/2024 9:05:00 AM PST by PAR35
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To: airdalechief

Well I can’t say how badly he was injured, however as a 67 year old, I can tell you that healing is much slower as you age.


20 posted on 11/10/2024 9:08:57 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (You can vote totalitarians in but you can never vote them out...)
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