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Mike Rogers (US Senate candidate - MI)
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Posted on 11/08/2024 12:29:35 AM PST by Mozzafiato

My theory is that Democrats steal races by spoiling ballots. For example, in the US President and Senate race in Michigan the discrepancy in votes between President Trump and Senate candidate Mike Rogers is vastly different than between Kamala and Slotkin:

Trump: 2,802,428 votes
Kamala: 2,720,831

Rogers: 2,685,804
Slotkin: 2,705,115

The difference between the Democrats is only 15,000 (reasonable) while the difference between Trump/Rogers is 117,000. Now why would a Trump voter choose to send Slotkin to DC instead of an ally of Trump?

What I think happens is that in nefarious blue precincts there is a concerted effort to spoil Rogers ballots by penciling in the circle next to Slotkin as well, thereby invalidating that voters' Senate selection. After they find out how many ballots to spoil it is easy.

But, since Rogers chose not to request a recount those ballots would never be investigated or reviewed. They would not attempt this with Trump's race this year because it is under extreme scrutiny. Am I off base here?


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1 posted on 11/08/2024 12:29:35 AM PST by Mozzafiato
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To: Mozzafiato
Am I off base here?

A little bit, I think. You underestimate the appeal of individual candidates. Like it or not, charisma is important in politics. Many people don't like Kari Lake's personality. It's why she always loses elections in Arizona.

2 posted on 11/08/2024 12:41:37 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman; Mozzafiato

Michigan is one of the few straight-ticket voting states.

So yeah, shenanigans.


3 posted on 11/08/2024 12:50:52 AM PST by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: Mozzafiato; Right_Wing_Madman
Allow me to drop a little data on ya:














Trump

Rogers
slutkin





Senate






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Rogers
Slutkintotal


Trump
kamaLOL
Rogers

Trump
kamaLOL
Wayne31.9%267,67863.4%531,614799,292
Wayne33.7%288,77862.7%536,581
21,100
193%
99%
Oakland42.7%325,71554.8%418,362744,077
Oakland43.8%337,59254.3%419,121
11,877
296%
100%
Macomb53.3%265,86543.6%217,649483,514
Macomb55.9%284,63942.2%214,930
18,774
393%
101%
Kent46.3%170,33550.9%187,411357,746
Kent46.5%172,67051.8%192,565
2,335
499%
97%
Genesee44.6%97,97852.4%114,960212,938
Genesee47.2%105,28451.4%114,632
7,306
593%
100%
Washtenaw26.6%58,16070.4%154,043212,203
Washtenaw26.6%58,79871.0%156,964
638
699%
98%
Ottawa59.5%107,82238.2%69,251177,073
Ottawa59.3%108,23139.2%71,573
409
7100%
97%
Ingham32.8%48,06964.5%94,603142,672
Ingham34.2%50,55263.9%94,464
2,483
895%
100%
Kalamazoo39.8%56,65457.1%81,336137,990
Kalamazoo40.1%57,81958.2%83,923
1,165
998%
97%
Livingston59.5%78,18038.5%50,516128,696
Livingston61.2%81,20437.3%49,484
3,024
1096%
102%
Saginaw48.7%49,65448.7%49,65299,306
Saginaw51.0%52,90747.7%49,498
3,253
1194%
100%
Muskegon48.1%43,92948.6%44,36188,290
Muskegon49.9%46,35848.6%45,172
2,429
1295%
98%
St. Clair63.5%59,99633.4%31,50991,505
St. Clair66.6%64,27331.9%30,833
4,277
1393%
102%
Jackson57.7%47,54339.1%32,18279,725
Jackson59.9%50,17838.6%32,327
2,635
1495%
100%
Monroe60.8%54,07936.4%32,41286,491
Monroe62.9%57,40235.7%32,613
3,323
1594%
99%
Berrien53.9%44,80343.3%35,94980,752
Berrien53.3%44,96545.4%38,288
162
16100%
94%
Calhoun55.8%34,96940.7%25,50460,473
Calhoun57.9%36,98240.8%26,078
2,013
1795%
98%
Allegan62.5%41,95134.7%23,27365,224
Allegan63.6%43,07234.9%23,648
1,121
1897%
98%
Eaton48.9%31,61748.6%31,43763,054
Eaton50.7%33,09747.5%31,038
1,480
1996%
101%
Bay53.4%32,08943.7%26,27358,362
Bay56.6%34,73642.0%25,725
2,647
2092%
102%
Lenawee60.2%32,37936.8%19,76752,146
Lenawee60.8%33,45737.8%20,782
1,078
2197%
95%
Grand Traverse49.8%30,85047.5%29,47860,328
Grand Traverse50.1%31,40948.3%30,327
559
2298%
97%
Lapeer66.6%35,20730.7%16,22951,436
Lapeer68.9%36,98229.7%15,921
1,775
2395%
102%
Midland55.7%27,60141.7%20,65648,257
Midland56.8%28,56741.6%20,916
966
2497%
99%
Clinton52.3%25,89945.6%22,58948,488
Clinton53.6%26,74844.9%22,439
849
2597%
101%
Van Buren55.6%22,56941.4%16,79539,364
Van Buren56.9%23,40641.7%17,172
837
2696%
98%
Shiawassee58.6%23,50338.6%15,47338,976
Shiawassee60.8%24,71637.7%15,331
1,213
2795%
101%
Montcalm66.8%22,94229.9%10,26533,207
Montcalm68.8%23,94429.8%10,362
1,002
2896%
99%
Ionia63.3%21,23733.5%11,25332,490
Ionia65.2%22,17533.3%11,338
938
2996%
99%
Marquette43.5%16,34053.9%20,25036,590
Marquette44.2%16,84953.9%20,564
509
3097%
98%
Isabella51.5%15,56445.4%13,72029,284
Isabella53.0%16,31545.5%14,003
751
3195%
98%
Barry64.6%24,67932.2%12,31036,989
Barry66.3%25,64932.0%12,391
970
3296%
99%
St. Joseph64.3%18,54431.9%9,19427,738
St. Joseph66.1%19,40232.2%9,451
858
3396%
97%
Tuscola67.9%20,50329.0%8,74929,252
Tuscola70.8%21,76427.8%8,557
1,261
3494%
102%
Cass66.1%18,12431.3%8,58226,706
Cass66.4%18,50232.5%9,048
378
3598%
95%
Newaygo69.1%19,93028.0%8,06327,993
Newaygo70.7%20,62727.8%8,129
697
3697%
99%
Hillsdale72.9%17,78824.3%5,92223,710
Hillsdale75.1%18,62723.7%5,873
839
3795%
101%
Branch68.2%14,18128.5%5,92220,103
Branch70.4%14,84728.0%5,910
666
3896%
100%
Gratiot62.9%12,27934.1%6,64518,924
Gratiot65.0%12,89233.7%6,679
613
3995%
99%
Sanilac70.8%16,30626.3%6,05322,359
Sanilac73.2%17,08025.5%5,954
774
4095%
102%
Mecosta60.1%13,94932.2%7,46321,412
Mecosta64.1%14,44434.1%7,689
495
4197%
97%
Houghton57.4%10,99039.9%7,63718,627
Houghton57.7%11,17840.6%7,868
188
4298%
97%
Delta63.3%13,60034.1%7,31420,914
Delta64.5%14,10834.1%7,460
508
4396%
98%
Chippewa59.7%10,74937.1%6,69017,439
Chippewa61.3%11,24837.0%6,796
499
4496%
98%
Emmet54.3%12,29643.1%9,76022,056
Emmet54.6%12,46143.8%9,995
165
4599%
98%
Wexford64.7%12,45731.5%6,06218,519
Wexford66.5%12,96831.9%6,223
511
4696%
97%
Huron67.4%12,51029.8%5,54018,050
Huron69.7%13,22529.1%5,521
715
4795%
100%
Clare65.6%11,14031.1%5,28816,428
Clare68.1%11,76630.5%5,276
626
4895%
100%
Mason59.4%10,61337.7%6,73517,348
Mason60.0%10,83038.6%6,969
217
4998%
97%
Alpena62.6%10,56434.5%5,82516,389
Alpena63.7%10,96535.1%6,036
401
5096%
97%
Oceana62.6%9,16834.6%5,06414,232
Oceana64.1%9,54734.2%5,083
379
5196%
100%
Charlevoix57.1%9,93040.1%6,97616,906
Charlevoix57.6%10,18340.7%7,194
253
5298%
97%
Dickinson66.6%10,07530.8%4,66214,737
Dickinson67.3%10,32431.0%4,761
249
5398%
98%
Cheboygan63.5%10,25633.7%5,44115,697
Cheboygan64.9%10,65033.7%5,539
394
5496%
98%
Gladwin67.4%10,23929.9%4,53714,776
Gladwin69.8%10,80929.1%4,501
570
5595%
101%
Iosco61.8%9,54434.9%5,40014,944
Iosco64.2%10,15333.8%5,342
609
5694%
101%
Manistee54.9%8,38142.0%6,40214,783
Manistee55.9%8,62742.4%6,541
246
5797%
98%
Otsego66.3%10,00830.9%4,67414,682
Otsego67.7%10,37130.9%4,740
363
5896%
99%
Antrim60.6%10,13536.9%6,17616,311
Antrim61.3%10,34037.5%6,328
205
5998%
98%
Roscommon63.8%10,11433.2%5,25415,368
Roscommon65.9%10,58132.9%5,290
467
6096%
99%
Menominee65.6%8,33031.8%4,03812,368
Menominee66.2%8,64532.6%4,252
315
6196%
95%
Osceola71.4%9,29125.2%3,28112,572
Osceola73.1%9,63925.2%3,326
348
6296%
99%
Leelanau41.9%6,46553.0%8,18114,646
Leelanau40.3%6,39253.0%8,407
-73
63101%
97%
Ogemaw67.5%8,31229.9%3,68411,996
Ogemaw70.4%8,87928.3%3,578
567
6494%
103%
Benzie52.9%6,73744.4%5,64612,383
Benzie53.7%6,89045.0%5,767
153
6598%
98%
Kalkaska68.6%7,75727.8%3,14510,902
Kalkaska70.7%8,14927.8%3,206
392
6695%
98%
Missaukee75.7%6,82821.4%1,9348,762
Missaukee77.2%7,06621.3%1,945
238
6797%
99%
Arenac66.1%5,97330.8%2,7828,755
Arenac70.1%6,50828.6%2,658
535
6892%
105%
Gogebic55.8%4,05640.9%2,9727,028
Gogebic57.0%4,27441.4%3,106
218
6995%
96%
Crawford64.3%5,36032.3%2,6958,055
Crawford66.2%5,63132.3%2,751
271
7095%
98%
Presque Isle62.7%5,39334.7%2,9898,382
Presque Isle63.7%5,56934.7%3,033
176
7197%
99%
Lake62.9%4,25733.2%2,2506,507
Lake65.4%4,52333.2%2,298
266
7294%
98%
Iron62.6%4,32834.8%2,4046,732
Iron64.0%4,50134.7%2,441
173
7396%
98%
Mackinac60.9%4,32636.7%2,6116,937
Mackinac61.8%4,47636.9%2,673
150
7497%
98%
Alcona68.2%5,04728.8%2,1337,180
Alcona70.3%5,25528.6%2,140
208
7596%
100%
Montmorency71.0%4,45426.4%1,6536,107
Montmorency72.0%4,59926.6%1,700
145
7697%
97%
Alger58.1%3,00239.6%2,0475,049
Alger59.2%3,11639.4%2,075
114
7796%
99%
Oscoda69.0%3,50027.4%1,3884,888
Oscoda71.6%3,71627.2%1,414
216
7894%
98%
Baraga63.5%2,69734.6%1,4684,165
Baraga64.1%2,77834.4%1,488
81
7997%
99%
Schoolcraft63.2%3,03234.0%1,6304,662
Schoolcraft65.9%3,29532.7%1,632
263
8092%
100%
Ontonagon63.2%2,38733.8%1,2793,666
Ontonagon64.5%2,47934.2%1,313
92
8196%
97%
Luce71.1%2,09626.2%7712,867
Luce72.7%2,17025.8%769
74
8297%
100%
Keweenaw55.7%88241.9%6641,546
Keweenaw55.7%89642.8%689
14
8398%
96%


2,684,739
2,704,7575,389,496


2,807,719
2,728,417







4 posted on 11/08/2024 12:51:40 AM PST by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: Mozzafiato

sorted by county population - population rank on the right, just after “Trump minus Rogers” column.


5 posted on 11/08/2024 12:53:38 AM PST by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: Mozzafiato

You can copy and paste that post into a spreadsheet.


6 posted on 11/08/2024 12:59:09 AM PST by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

๐˜ˆ ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ต๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ช๐˜ต, ๐˜ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฌ. ๐˜ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ถ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ญ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ท๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜ถ๐˜ข๐˜ญ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ด. ๐˜“๐˜ช๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ช๐˜ต ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต, ๐˜ค๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ฎ๐˜ข ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ต ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ด. ๐˜”๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜บ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ’๐˜ต ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ ๐˜’๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ช ๐˜“๐˜ข๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ’๐˜ด ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜บ. ๐˜๐˜ต’๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜บ ๐˜ด๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ธ๐˜ข๐˜บ๐˜ด ๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ด ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ˆ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ป๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ข.

Rogers was not appealing. I didn’t vote for him in the primaries, and held my nose as I filled out my absentee ballot. Looking into his life, and government service, he did time four years (1985-1989) in the Army, went into the FBI (1989-1994), MI State Senate (1994-1998), then US House of Reps (2001-2015). In October of 2020 he was on Guy Gordon’s show on WJR, talking about the Whitmer kidnapping plot; he talked nice, generic game about extremism and anti-government sentiment, not once mentioning some of the despotic crap Governor Whitmer pulled a few months prior.

Rogers spent the majority of his adult like in government, and was seeking another government job. He was also part of the FBI, and I can’t say I really trust the FBI, or former agents. When it came down to the 2024 election is was a former FBI agent (Rogers) vs. Elissa Slotkin, who after grad school was recruited into the CIA. Fed vs. a Spook, and it looks like the Spook won it. Two parasites with lives lived in government. Whether it’s shenanigans, or it’s legit, Rogers didn’t exactly fit the bill of someone who would be fully onboard with shrinking the size and scope of government. I will admit I have yet to do a deep dive on the man’s voting record.


7 posted on 11/08/2024 1:01:42 AM PST by Antihero101607
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To: Mozzafiato

bookmark.


8 posted on 11/08/2024 1:14:02 AM PST by dadfly
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To: Antihero101607; Right_Wing_Madman

Do either of you guys understand how the US Senate works?

The DemoCommies certainly do.


9 posted on 11/08/2024 1:16:09 AM PST by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: kiryandil
Do either of you guys understand how the US Senate works?

Yes. Don't nominate guys like Oz for US Senate.

10 posted on 11/08/2024 1:18:10 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

The democrats understand the phalanx concept.

The repukelickings understand the herd of cats concept.

The democrats also understand the number “50”. The repukelickings don’t.


11 posted on 11/08/2024 1:21:49 AM PST by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: Mozzafiato

It’s maddening, but there are a lot of ticket splitters for reasons we can’t comprehend. Ohio has been a red state for a while and look at how long it took to finally get rid of Brown - better example is Tester in Montana. Ridiculous that they were in the Senate this long.


12 posted on 11/08/2024 1:25:44 AM PST by MountainWalker
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To: kiryandil

๐˜‹๐˜ฐ ๐˜ฆ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜จ๐˜ถ๐˜บ๐˜ด ๐˜ถ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ๐˜ธ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜œ๐˜š ๐˜š๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฆ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฌ๐˜ด?

It’s a complex system of ropes and pulleys, isn’t it?

I held my nose, and voted for the jackass, but I knew that he wasn’t a good choice on primary day. Apparently a lot of my fellow Michigan residents didn’t think so.


13 posted on 11/08/2024 1:31:27 AM PST by Antihero101607
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To: kiryandil
The democrats also understand the number โ€œ50โ€. The repukelickings donโ€™t.

It looks like the number will come up 53-47, which is good enough. Republicans will control the Senate's committees and legislative agenda. And thanks to Harry Reid, almost all the judicial nominees will sail through, which is actually huge and series.

14 posted on 11/08/2024 1:47:27 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
And thanks to Harry Reid, almost all the judicial nominees will sail through, which is actually huge and series.

Yes, thanks be to Harry Reid.

I post most of the follow-up information on FR articles about Article III judges.

Pedo Joe's handlers did a lot of damage with their appointments of DEI stooges into the federal courts.

A number of of RINO "judges" collaborated with the Demoscum.

15 posted on 11/08/2024 2:11:18 AM PST by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: MountainWalker

Michigan is one of the rare straight-ticket states.

Think about the implications of that.


16 posted on 11/08/2024 2:12:31 AM PST by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Might get Fetterman on a few things would be my guess. I the Rats really going to vote against EVERYTHING for 4 years again? I think the mood of the country is different this time.


17 posted on 11/08/2024 2:13:01 AM PST by wiseprince (Me)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
It looks like the number will come up 53-47, which is good enough.

Murky and Susie will give us trouble if we have a outbreak of Mutt Dumbneys as a follow-on to that retiring POS.

18 posted on 11/08/2024 2:15:02 AM PST by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: Antihero101607
Apparently a lot of my fellow Michigan residents didnโ€™t think so.

You're aware that the Commie female dog "Dirty Josey" Benson is an "election"-rigger par excellence, aren't you?

The Michigan Commies get by with a little help from their Assistant Democrat friends, like Ed McBroom.

I'm surprised that some of the Michigan Republicans grew a spine and took back the Michigan House, at least.

19 posted on 11/08/2024 2:19:58 AM PST by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

I dunno where you live but most of my family is in Arizona, where I was born and raised.

Everyone likes Kari. Two years ago they were calling it “Karizona” and the polls had her up by 8% against Hobbs going in to the election.

Rueben Marinelerina “Gallego”? He’s a low rent foul mouthed Mexican thug and everyone knows it. Mexicans vote for him because...he’s Mexican. Nobody “likes” him as a person, not even his Jewish ex-wife (the current Mayor of Phoenix, if you can believe that), who apparently is one of those dishrags that likes getting slapped around. He ditched her two days before she had their first kid. Gotta luv those Mexican Catholics, right? Real cultural conservatives.

So uh, the “Kari is unlikable” meme is entirely a Rat media invention, painted on her for fighting the good fight against their obvious Steal in ‘22. Thank Laurie Roberts for that. And of course the same people who did the same thing to Don Trump for the last 8 years.


20 posted on 11/08/2024 2:51:56 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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