Posted on 11/08/2024 12:29:35 AM PST by Mozzafiato
My theory is that Democrats steal races by spoiling ballots. For example, in the US President and Senate race in Michigan the discrepancy in votes between President Trump and Senate candidate Mike Rogers is vastly different than between Kamala and Slotkin:
Trump: 2,802,428 votes
Kamala: 2,720,831
Rogers: 2,685,804
Slotkin: 2,705,115
The difference between the Democrats is only 15,000 (reasonable) while the difference between Trump/Rogers is 117,000. Now why would a Trump voter choose to send Slotkin to DC instead of an ally of Trump?
What I think happens is that in nefarious blue precincts there is a concerted effort to spoil Rogers ballots by penciling in the circle next to Slotkin as well, thereby invalidating that voters' Senate selection. After they find out how many ballots to spoil it is easy.
But, since Rogers chose not to request a recount those ballots would never be investigated or reviewed. They would not attempt this with Trump's race this year because it is under extreme scrutiny. Am I off base here?
Michigan is one of the few straight-ticket voting states.
So yeah, shenanigans.
Trump | Rogers | slutkin | ||||||||||||||||
Senate | minus | div | div | |||||||||||||||
Rogers | Slutkin | total | Trump | kamaLOL | Rogers | Trump | kamaLOL | |||||||||||
Wayne | 31.9% | 267,678 | 63.4% | 531,614 | 799,292 | Wayne | 33.7% | 288,778 | 62.7% | 536,581 | 21,100 | 1 | 93% | 99% | ||||
Oakland | 42.7% | 325,715 | 54.8% | 418,362 | 744,077 | Oakland | 43.8% | 337,592 | 54.3% | 419,121 | 11,877 | 2 | 96% | 100% | ||||
Macomb | 53.3% | 265,865 | 43.6% | 217,649 | 483,514 | Macomb | 55.9% | 284,639 | 42.2% | 214,930 | 18,774 | 3 | 93% | 101% | ||||
Kent | 46.3% | 170,335 | 50.9% | 187,411 | 357,746 | Kent | 46.5% | 172,670 | 51.8% | 192,565 | 2,335 | 4 | 99% | 97% | ||||
Genesee | 44.6% | 97,978 | 52.4% | 114,960 | 212,938 | Genesee | 47.2% | 105,284 | 51.4% | 114,632 | 7,306 | 5 | 93% | 100% | ||||
Washtenaw | 26.6% | 58,160 | 70.4% | 154,043 | 212,203 | Washtenaw | 26.6% | 58,798 | 71.0% | 156,964 | 638 | 6 | 99% | 98% | ||||
Ottawa | 59.5% | 107,822 | 38.2% | 69,251 | 177,073 | Ottawa | 59.3% | 108,231 | 39.2% | 71,573 | 409 | 7 | 100% | 97% | ||||
Ingham | 32.8% | 48,069 | 64.5% | 94,603 | 142,672 | Ingham | 34.2% | 50,552 | 63.9% | 94,464 | 2,483 | 8 | 95% | 100% | ||||
Kalamazoo | 39.8% | 56,654 | 57.1% | 81,336 | 137,990 | Kalamazoo | 40.1% | 57,819 | 58.2% | 83,923 | 1,165 | 9 | 98% | 97% | ||||
Livingston | 59.5% | 78,180 | 38.5% | 50,516 | 128,696 | Livingston | 61.2% | 81,204 | 37.3% | 49,484 | 3,024 | 10 | 96% | 102% | ||||
Saginaw | 48.7% | 49,654 | 48.7% | 49,652 | 99,306 | Saginaw | 51.0% | 52,907 | 47.7% | 49,498 | 3,253 | 11 | 94% | 100% | ||||
Muskegon | 48.1% | 43,929 | 48.6% | 44,361 | 88,290 | Muskegon | 49.9% | 46,358 | 48.6% | 45,172 | 2,429 | 12 | 95% | 98% | ||||
St. Clair | 63.5% | 59,996 | 33.4% | 31,509 | 91,505 | St. Clair | 66.6% | 64,273 | 31.9% | 30,833 | 4,277 | 13 | 93% | 102% | ||||
Jackson | 57.7% | 47,543 | 39.1% | 32,182 | 79,725 | Jackson | 59.9% | 50,178 | 38.6% | 32,327 | 2,635 | 14 | 95% | 100% | ||||
Monroe | 60.8% | 54,079 | 36.4% | 32,412 | 86,491 | Monroe | 62.9% | 57,402 | 35.7% | 32,613 | 3,323 | 15 | 94% | 99% | ||||
Berrien | 53.9% | 44,803 | 43.3% | 35,949 | 80,752 | Berrien | 53.3% | 44,965 | 45.4% | 38,288 | 162 | 16 | 100% | 94% | ||||
Calhoun | 55.8% | 34,969 | 40.7% | 25,504 | 60,473 | Calhoun | 57.9% | 36,982 | 40.8% | 26,078 | 2,013 | 17 | 95% | 98% | ||||
Allegan | 62.5% | 41,951 | 34.7% | 23,273 | 65,224 | Allegan | 63.6% | 43,072 | 34.9% | 23,648 | 1,121 | 18 | 97% | 98% | ||||
Eaton | 48.9% | 31,617 | 48.6% | 31,437 | 63,054 | Eaton | 50.7% | 33,097 | 47.5% | 31,038 | 1,480 | 19 | 96% | 101% | ||||
Bay | 53.4% | 32,089 | 43.7% | 26,273 | 58,362 | Bay | 56.6% | 34,736 | 42.0% | 25,725 | 2,647 | 20 | 92% | 102% | ||||
Lenawee | 60.2% | 32,379 | 36.8% | 19,767 | 52,146 | Lenawee | 60.8% | 33,457 | 37.8% | 20,782 | 1,078 | 21 | 97% | 95% | ||||
Grand Traverse | 49.8% | 30,850 | 47.5% | 29,478 | 60,328 | Grand Traverse | 50.1% | 31,409 | 48.3% | 30,327 | 559 | 22 | 98% | 97% | ||||
Lapeer | 66.6% | 35,207 | 30.7% | 16,229 | 51,436 | Lapeer | 68.9% | 36,982 | 29.7% | 15,921 | 1,775 | 23 | 95% | 102% | ||||
Midland | 55.7% | 27,601 | 41.7% | 20,656 | 48,257 | Midland | 56.8% | 28,567 | 41.6% | 20,916 | 966 | 24 | 97% | 99% | ||||
Clinton | 52.3% | 25,899 | 45.6% | 22,589 | 48,488 | Clinton | 53.6% | 26,748 | 44.9% | 22,439 | 849 | 25 | 97% | 101% | ||||
Van Buren | 55.6% | 22,569 | 41.4% | 16,795 | 39,364 | Van Buren | 56.9% | 23,406 | 41.7% | 17,172 | 837 | 26 | 96% | 98% | ||||
Shiawassee | 58.6% | 23,503 | 38.6% | 15,473 | 38,976 | Shiawassee | 60.8% | 24,716 | 37.7% | 15,331 | 1,213 | 27 | 95% | 101% | ||||
Montcalm | 66.8% | 22,942 | 29.9% | 10,265 | 33,207 | Montcalm | 68.8% | 23,944 | 29.8% | 10,362 | 1,002 | 28 | 96% | 99% | ||||
Ionia | 63.3% | 21,237 | 33.5% | 11,253 | 32,490 | Ionia | 65.2% | 22,175 | 33.3% | 11,338 | 938 | 29 | 96% | 99% | ||||
Marquette | 43.5% | 16,340 | 53.9% | 20,250 | 36,590 | Marquette | 44.2% | 16,849 | 53.9% | 20,564 | 509 | 30 | 97% | 98% | ||||
Isabella | 51.5% | 15,564 | 45.4% | 13,720 | 29,284 | Isabella | 53.0% | 16,315 | 45.5% | 14,003 | 751 | 31 | 95% | 98% | ||||
Barry | 64.6% | 24,679 | 32.2% | 12,310 | 36,989 | Barry | 66.3% | 25,649 | 32.0% | 12,391 | 970 | 32 | 96% | 99% | ||||
St. Joseph | 64.3% | 18,544 | 31.9% | 9,194 | 27,738 | St. Joseph | 66.1% | 19,402 | 32.2% | 9,451 | 858 | 33 | 96% | 97% | ||||
Tuscola | 67.9% | 20,503 | 29.0% | 8,749 | 29,252 | Tuscola | 70.8% | 21,764 | 27.8% | 8,557 | 1,261 | 34 | 94% | 102% | ||||
Cass | 66.1% | 18,124 | 31.3% | 8,582 | 26,706 | Cass | 66.4% | 18,502 | 32.5% | 9,048 | 378 | 35 | 98% | 95% | ||||
Newaygo | 69.1% | 19,930 | 28.0% | 8,063 | 27,993 | Newaygo | 70.7% | 20,627 | 27.8% | 8,129 | 697 | 36 | 97% | 99% | ||||
Hillsdale | 72.9% | 17,788 | 24.3% | 5,922 | 23,710 | Hillsdale | 75.1% | 18,627 | 23.7% | 5,873 | 839 | 37 | 95% | 101% | ||||
Branch | 68.2% | 14,181 | 28.5% | 5,922 | 20,103 | Branch | 70.4% | 14,847 | 28.0% | 5,910 | 666 | 38 | 96% | 100% | ||||
Gratiot | 62.9% | 12,279 | 34.1% | 6,645 | 18,924 | Gratiot | 65.0% | 12,892 | 33.7% | 6,679 | 613 | 39 | 95% | 99% | ||||
Sanilac | 70.8% | 16,306 | 26.3% | 6,053 | 22,359 | Sanilac | 73.2% | 17,080 | 25.5% | 5,954 | 774 | 40 | 95% | 102% | ||||
Mecosta | 60.1% | 13,949 | 32.2% | 7,463 | 21,412 | Mecosta | 64.1% | 14,444 | 34.1% | 7,689 | 495 | 41 | 97% | 97% | ||||
Houghton | 57.4% | 10,990 | 39.9% | 7,637 | 18,627 | Houghton | 57.7% | 11,178 | 40.6% | 7,868 | 188 | 42 | 98% | 97% | ||||
Delta | 63.3% | 13,600 | 34.1% | 7,314 | 20,914 | Delta | 64.5% | 14,108 | 34.1% | 7,460 | 508 | 43 | 96% | 98% | ||||
Chippewa | 59.7% | 10,749 | 37.1% | 6,690 | 17,439 | Chippewa | 61.3% | 11,248 | 37.0% | 6,796 | 499 | 44 | 96% | 98% | ||||
Emmet | 54.3% | 12,296 | 43.1% | 9,760 | 22,056 | Emmet | 54.6% | 12,461 | 43.8% | 9,995 | 165 | 45 | 99% | 98% | ||||
Wexford | 64.7% | 12,457 | 31.5% | 6,062 | 18,519 | Wexford | 66.5% | 12,968 | 31.9% | 6,223 | 511 | 46 | 96% | 97% | ||||
Huron | 67.4% | 12,510 | 29.8% | 5,540 | 18,050 | Huron | 69.7% | 13,225 | 29.1% | 5,521 | 715 | 47 | 95% | 100% | ||||
Clare | 65.6% | 11,140 | 31.1% | 5,288 | 16,428 | Clare | 68.1% | 11,766 | 30.5% | 5,276 | 626 | 48 | 95% | 100% | ||||
Mason | 59.4% | 10,613 | 37.7% | 6,735 | 17,348 | Mason | 60.0% | 10,830 | 38.6% | 6,969 | 217 | 49 | 98% | 97% | ||||
Alpena | 62.6% | 10,564 | 34.5% | 5,825 | 16,389 | Alpena | 63.7% | 10,965 | 35.1% | 6,036 | 401 | 50 | 96% | 97% | ||||
Oceana | 62.6% | 9,168 | 34.6% | 5,064 | 14,232 | Oceana | 64.1% | 9,547 | 34.2% | 5,083 | 379 | 51 | 96% | 100% | ||||
Charlevoix | 57.1% | 9,930 | 40.1% | 6,976 | 16,906 | Charlevoix | 57.6% | 10,183 | 40.7% | 7,194 | 253 | 52 | 98% | 97% | ||||
Dickinson | 66.6% | 10,075 | 30.8% | 4,662 | 14,737 | Dickinson | 67.3% | 10,324 | 31.0% | 4,761 | 249 | 53 | 98% | 98% | ||||
Cheboygan | 63.5% | 10,256 | 33.7% | 5,441 | 15,697 | Cheboygan | 64.9% | 10,650 | 33.7% | 5,539 | 394 | 54 | 96% | 98% | ||||
Gladwin | 67.4% | 10,239 | 29.9% | 4,537 | 14,776 | Gladwin | 69.8% | 10,809 | 29.1% | 4,501 | 570 | 55 | 95% | 101% | ||||
Iosco | 61.8% | 9,544 | 34.9% | 5,400 | 14,944 | Iosco | 64.2% | 10,153 | 33.8% | 5,342 | 609 | 56 | 94% | 101% | ||||
Manistee | 54.9% | 8,381 | 42.0% | 6,402 | 14,783 | Manistee | 55.9% | 8,627 | 42.4% | 6,541 | 246 | 57 | 97% | 98% | ||||
Otsego | 66.3% | 10,008 | 30.9% | 4,674 | 14,682 | Otsego | 67.7% | 10,371 | 30.9% | 4,740 | 363 | 58 | 96% | 99% | ||||
Antrim | 60.6% | 10,135 | 36.9% | 6,176 | 16,311 | Antrim | 61.3% | 10,340 | 37.5% | 6,328 | 205 | 59 | 98% | 98% | ||||
Roscommon | 63.8% | 10,114 | 33.2% | 5,254 | 15,368 | Roscommon | 65.9% | 10,581 | 32.9% | 5,290 | 467 | 60 | 96% | 99% | ||||
Menominee | 65.6% | 8,330 | 31.8% | 4,038 | 12,368 | Menominee | 66.2% | 8,645 | 32.6% | 4,252 | 315 | 61 | 96% | 95% | ||||
Osceola | 71.4% | 9,291 | 25.2% | 3,281 | 12,572 | Osceola | 73.1% | 9,639 | 25.2% | 3,326 | 348 | 62 | 96% | 99% | ||||
Leelanau | 41.9% | 6,465 | 53.0% | 8,181 | 14,646 | Leelanau | 40.3% | 6,392 | 53.0% | 8,407 | -73 | 63 | 101% | 97% | ||||
Ogemaw | 67.5% | 8,312 | 29.9% | 3,684 | 11,996 | Ogemaw | 70.4% | 8,879 | 28.3% | 3,578 | 567 | 64 | 94% | 103% | ||||
Benzie | 52.9% | 6,737 | 44.4% | 5,646 | 12,383 | Benzie | 53.7% | 6,890 | 45.0% | 5,767 | 153 | 65 | 98% | 98% | ||||
Kalkaska | 68.6% | 7,757 | 27.8% | 3,145 | 10,902 | Kalkaska | 70.7% | 8,149 | 27.8% | 3,206 | 392 | 66 | 95% | 98% | ||||
Missaukee | 75.7% | 6,828 | 21.4% | 1,934 | 8,762 | Missaukee | 77.2% | 7,066 | 21.3% | 1,945 | 238 | 67 | 97% | 99% | ||||
Arenac | 66.1% | 5,973 | 30.8% | 2,782 | 8,755 | Arenac | 70.1% | 6,508 | 28.6% | 2,658 | 535 | 68 | 92% | 105% | ||||
Gogebic | 55.8% | 4,056 | 40.9% | 2,972 | 7,028 | Gogebic | 57.0% | 4,274 | 41.4% | 3,106 | 218 | 69 | 95% | 96% | ||||
Crawford | 64.3% | 5,360 | 32.3% | 2,695 | 8,055 | Crawford | 66.2% | 5,631 | 32.3% | 2,751 | 271 | 70 | 95% | 98% | ||||
Presque Isle | 62.7% | 5,393 | 34.7% | 2,989 | 8,382 | Presque Isle | 63.7% | 5,569 | 34.7% | 3,033 | 176 | 71 | 97% | 99% | ||||
Lake | 62.9% | 4,257 | 33.2% | 2,250 | 6,507 | Lake | 65.4% | 4,523 | 33.2% | 2,298 | 266 | 72 | 94% | 98% | ||||
Iron | 62.6% | 4,328 | 34.8% | 2,404 | 6,732 | Iron | 64.0% | 4,501 | 34.7% | 2,441 | 173 | 73 | 96% | 98% | ||||
Mackinac | 60.9% | 4,326 | 36.7% | 2,611 | 6,937 | Mackinac | 61.8% | 4,476 | 36.9% | 2,673 | 150 | 74 | 97% | 98% | ||||
Alcona | 68.2% | 5,047 | 28.8% | 2,133 | 7,180 | Alcona | 70.3% | 5,255 | 28.6% | 2,140 | 208 | 75 | 96% | 100% | ||||
Montmorency | 71.0% | 4,454 | 26.4% | 1,653 | 6,107 | Montmorency | 72.0% | 4,599 | 26.6% | 1,700 | 145 | 76 | 97% | 97% | ||||
Alger | 58.1% | 3,002 | 39.6% | 2,047 | 5,049 | Alger | 59.2% | 3,116 | 39.4% | 2,075 | 114 | 77 | 96% | 99% | ||||
Oscoda | 69.0% | 3,500 | 27.4% | 1,388 | 4,888 | Oscoda | 71.6% | 3,716 | 27.2% | 1,414 | 216 | 78 | 94% | 98% | ||||
Baraga | 63.5% | 2,697 | 34.6% | 1,468 | 4,165 | Baraga | 64.1% | 2,778 | 34.4% | 1,488 | 81 | 79 | 97% | 99% | ||||
Schoolcraft | 63.2% | 3,032 | 34.0% | 1,630 | 4,662 | Schoolcraft | 65.9% | 3,295 | 32.7% | 1,632 | 263 | 80 | 92% | 100% | ||||
Ontonagon | 63.2% | 2,387 | 33.8% | 1,279 | 3,666 | Ontonagon | 64.5% | 2,479 | 34.2% | 1,313 | 92 | 81 | 96% | 97% | ||||
Luce | 71.1% | 2,096 | 26.2% | 771 | 2,867 | Luce | 72.7% | 2,170 | 25.8% | 769 | 74 | 82 | 97% | 100% | ||||
Keweenaw | 55.7% | 882 | 41.9% | 664 | 1,546 | Keweenaw | 55.7% | 896 | 42.8% | 689 | 14 | 83 | 98% | 96% | ||||
2,684,739 | 2,704,757 | 5,389,496 | 2,807,719 | 2,728,417 |
sorted by county population - population rank on the right, just after “Trump minus Rogers” column.
You can copy and paste that post into a spreadsheet.
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Rogers was not appealing. I didn’t vote for him in the primaries, and held my nose as I filled out my absentee ballot. Looking into his life, and government service, he did time four years (1985-1989) in the Army, went into the FBI (1989-1994), MI State Senate (1994-1998), then US House of Reps (2001-2015). In October of 2020 he was on Guy Gordon’s show on WJR, talking about the Whitmer kidnapping plot; he talked nice, generic game about extremism and anti-government sentiment, not once mentioning some of the despotic crap Governor Whitmer pulled a few months prior.
Rogers spent the majority of his adult like in government, and was seeking another government job. He was also part of the FBI, and I can’t say I really trust the FBI, or former agents. When it came down to the 2024 election is was a former FBI agent (Rogers) vs. Elissa Slotkin, who after grad school was recruited into the CIA. Fed vs. a Spook, and it looks like the Spook won it. Two parasites with lives lived in government. Whether it’s shenanigans, or it’s legit, Rogers didn’t exactly fit the bill of someone who would be fully onboard with shrinking the size and scope of government. I will admit I have yet to do a deep dive on the man’s voting record.
bookmark.
Do either of you guys understand how the US Senate works?
The DemoCommies certainly do.
The democrats understand the phalanx concept.
The repukelickings understand the herd of cats concept.
The democrats also understand the number “50”. The repukelickings don’t.
It’s maddening, but there are a lot of ticket splitters for reasons we can’t comprehend. Ohio has been a red state for a while and look at how long it took to finally get rid of Brown - better example is Tester in Montana. Ridiculous that they were in the Senate this long.
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It’s a complex system of ropes and pulleys, isn’t it?
I held my nose, and voted for the jackass, but I knew that he wasn’t a good choice on primary day. Apparently a lot of my fellow Michigan residents didn’t think so.
Yes, thanks be to Harry Reid.
I post most of the follow-up information on FR articles about Article III judges.
Pedo Joe's handlers did a lot of damage with their appointments of DEI stooges into the federal courts.
A number of of RINO "judges" collaborated with the Demoscum.
Michigan is one of the rare straight-ticket states.
Think about the implications of that.
Might get Fetterman on a few things would be my guess. I the Rats really going to vote against EVERYTHING for 4 years again? I think the mood of the country is different this time.
Murky and Susie will give us trouble if we have a outbreak of Mutt Dumbneys as a follow-on to that retiring POS.
You're aware that the Commie female dog "Dirty Josey" Benson is an "election"-rigger par excellence, aren't you?
The Michigan Commies get by with a little help from their Assistant Democrat friends, like Ed McBroom.
I'm surprised that some of the Michigan Republicans grew a spine and took back the Michigan House, at least.
I dunno where you live but most of my family is in Arizona, where I was born and raised.
Everyone likes Kari. Two years ago they were calling it “Karizona” and the polls had her up by 8% against Hobbs going in to the election.
Rueben Marinelerina “Gallego”? He’s a low rent foul mouthed Mexican thug and everyone knows it. Mexicans vote for him because...he’s Mexican. Nobody “likes” him as a person, not even his Jewish ex-wife (the current Mayor of Phoenix, if you can believe that), who apparently is one of those dishrags that likes getting slapped around. He ditched her two days before she had their first kid. Gotta luv those Mexican Catholics, right? Real cultural conservatives.
So uh, the “Kari is unlikable” meme is entirely a Rat media invention, painted on her for fighting the good fight against their obvious Steal in ‘22. Thank Laurie Roberts for that. And of course the same people who did the same thing to Don Trump for the last 8 years.
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